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grusl

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:40 am
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On Nov 16, 5:39 am, t....TakeThisOut@altavista.com wrote:
>
> AFAIK Marmite is a "Beef" product, not from yeast like Vegemite
>

Nope. Yeast, same as Vegemite.

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George W Russell
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 pm
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gday 'roo16
local supermarket chain has ceased carrying vegemite in the foreign foods
section, the withdrawl is killing.
vegemite and Kraft cheese spread in a drinking glass container, cheeze whiz
doesnt cut it

would like to find someone to mail it, rellies just laugh
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"kangaroo16" wrote in message

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:44:47 +1100, Alan S
> wrote in :
>
> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:14:33 GMT, kangaroo16
> > wrote:
> >

Clipped

I don't remember meeting any visitor that found it
> particularly attractive, which is probably why most supermarkets
> in the U.S. don't stock it.
>
> Have heard that some Australians in the U.S. miss it so much
> that they have family or friends here mail it to them. Or they
> did in the past, anyway. With current high security on posts
> and allowable imports, it is quite possible that a passenger
> trying to bring his own supply into the U.S. would attract
> the attention of customs officers. After all, a lot of things
> could be hidden in a jar of opaque black Vegemite. Smile
>
Snipped

>
> >Cheers, Alan, Australia
>
> Regards,
> Kangaroo16

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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 pm
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Point to K16
Bovril is the pommie beef extract, dont let anyone tell you
vegemite/marmite/promite is bad, wwwwhhhhhhooooo

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"kangaroo16" wrote in message

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:39:08 +0900, tony.RemoveThis@altavista.com wrote in
> :
>
> >On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:00:21 GMT, kangaroo16
> >wrote:
> >sNIP sNIP Snip.....
> >>the attention of customs officers. After all, a lot of things
> >>could be hidden in a jar of opaque black Vegemite. Smile
> >>
> >>Not sure that it is that much of a "secret" either. From memory,
> >>British "Marmite" is very similar, and think it was invented
> >>first. However, easily checked.
> >
> >AFAIK Marmite is a "Beef" product, not from yeast like Vegemite
>
> Well, you know me, Alan, I like to be accurate, so am pleased to
> actually check ingredients as well as when introduced.
>
> Just did so. Score one point for me, unless you can find
> conflicting info Smile. See:
>
> http://www.marmite.co.uk/love/nutrition/ingredients.html
>
> You are still ahead on points, so I welcome your challenges, or
> any constructive criticism for that matter.
>
> I do sometimes receive other criticism, but I don't define some
> of it as "constructive".Smile
>
> In passing, any particular local time of day that you check
> posts & reply to same?
>
> >>
> >>Yep, Marmite invented in 1902, Vegemite invented 1926. No
> >>longer an Aussie company, as Kraft Foods bought the
> >>company several years ago.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers, Alan, Australia
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Kangaroo16
>
> Kind regards,
> Kangaroo16
> 1539 hours [3:59 PM] AEDT
> Current time zone offset: UTC/GMT +11 hours
> Time zone abbreviation: EST - Eastern Summer(Daylight) Time
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 pm
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"texas is quite large", the second largest US state,, but,,
sq km
Au00 Aust. Antartic Terr. 6,119,818
Au01 Western Australia 2,645,615
Au02 Queensland 1,852,642
Us01 Alaska 1,481,347
Au04 Northern Territory 1,420,968
Au05 South Australia 1,043,514
Au06 New South Wales 809,444
Us02 Texas 678,051
....
not so big ,, but,,
way bigger than
.....
Au08 ACT 2,358
FR France 547,026

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"Janet Wilder" wrote in message

> kangaroo16 wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:37:29 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > wrote in
> > :
>
>
> >> In Australia we visited Ularu and did the Sounds of Silence dinner
which
> >> was a wonderful experience. I snorkeled on the Great Barrier Reef, too.
> >
> > Assume that you found it interesting.Smile One of our greatest
> > tourist attractions.
>
> We saw it at sunset and at sunrise. Watched it changing color with the
> angle of the sun. More than just interesting.
>
> >> I did taste some of the local brews and found them to be
> >> very nice. The wines of both countries were fabulous, but that goes
> >> without saying.
> >
> > Yep, we export a lot of it. Probably a lot more expensive there
> > than here.
>
> We get a lot of it here and it's very reasonably priced.
>
> > For the ultimate tourist food, were you offered, and did you
> > try a "wichetty grub". Bores into trees, can be fished out with
> > a twig or a bit of wire. Sort of like a large hairless
> > caterpillar.
>
> We were told about them, but not offered any. I would have most
> definitely declined to taste them. I draw the line at bugs. Ugh!
>
> >> The library is very pretty. The
> >> "Beehive" in my opinion, was quite ugly.
>
> > I like your honesty! You don't worry about possibly offending
> > readers!
>
> Not too many Kiwis are enamored of it either. From what we learned, it
> was conceived by a bunch of politicos having drinks over a matchbook
cover.
> >
> >> We looked at all the stuff that tourists are supposed to purchase but
> >> I'm not fond of opals so there wasn't much in Oz to tempt me.
> >
> > Not even the black opals? AFIK, only found in Australia. Solid
> > ones can be more valuable, weight by weight, than diamonds.
>
> Most of what I saw did not appeal to me. What did appeal to me was too
> expensive.
>
> > The possums in N.Z. aren't really native, AFIK, probably came
> > from Australia.
>
> They did. It seems that all of the "pests" in NZ were introduced by
> settlers.
>
> > Far south Texas on the Rio Grande, perhaps? Ever met "Cath" who
>
> Met her via this board. I don't think she lives near us. Texas is quite
> large. I live 4 miles from the Rio Grande. We are about 20 miles
> up-river from the Gulf of Mexico.
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> Good Friends. Good Life
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:13 pm
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:45:05 GMT, "AlmostBob"
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>Point to K16
>Bovril is the pommie beef extract, dont let anyone tell you
>vegemite/marmite/promite is bad, wwwwhhhhhhooooo

Actually didn't even think of Bovril, although have probably
tried it at one time or another. I don't claim that any of the
products are "bad" as they are loaded with valuable nutrients and
vitamins.

All I have said is that many people, including me, simply don't
like the taste of Vegemite/marmite/promite. Perhaps I
should try Bovril just in case haven't tried it?

I generally don't mind trying new foods, although have yet to eat
a witchetty grub, raw or cooked. Kangaroo is excellent, though.
Far more healthy than beef due to far less fat content. Contrary
to common belief, lots of Kangaroos in Australia. It is
estimated that about 10x as many than at settlement.

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/kangaroos.html

Impossible to get an actual count of Kangaroos, though.
20 million to 40 million? Not feasible to even try to count
them. Would be like trying to get an accurate population
count of wild jackrabbits in the USA.

Probably would be harder, actually, as:

"Kangaroos have adapted to the varied conditions across
Australia in many ways. One of the most unusual, is the way
females of some species can delay the progress of pregnancy. In
this way the female is ready to give birth to a replacement for
the young in her pouch if it dies early, or within a week of when
it permanently leaves the pouch. This ability to delay births
means that there can be up to 12 months between a mating and the
birth of the young one resulting from that mating (when the
normal gestation period is less than 35 days). It also means that
the species can best respond to periods of drought and plenty.

Species which have this unusual ability normally mate again soon
after the female gives birth. The tiny newly born kangaroo (less
than 25 mm long) moves unaided into its mother's pouch and
attaches itself to one of four teats. During the early stages of
pouch life the young is permanently attached to the teat, but as
it matures and begins to grow hair it also develops the ability
to release and reattach itself to the teat. In the late stages
of pouch life, once it has a thin covering of fur, the young one
begins to explore the outside world for increasing lengths of
time until eventually it is old enough to be excluded permanently
from the pouch. Complete weaning may take a number of months more
after the young has permanently left the pouch. If the mother
gives birth during this time, the newborn young will attach
itself to a different teat to that being used by the older young.
It is remarkable that when this happens the mother produces two
different kinds of milk for the two different-aged young."
[More at]

http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/trade-use/wild-harvest/kang...o/biolo

Readers who like to play with numbers might like to estimate how
fast kangaroo populations can multiply under ideal conditions.
Say we have 40 million kangaroos, or roughly 20 million female
kangaroos. They normally breed year around. The joey in the
pouch becomes independent after several months, a year at most.

With a gestation period of < 35 days, she can soon have another
Joey in the pouch.

Readers concerned with overpopulation of the earth should be
glad that humans are placental mammals and not marsupials. If
a human mother could give birth in 35 days and the child became
independent at a year, the human race probably would have
suffered a massive population crash long before now.

As it is, though, the closest we have come to a population
crash was the Bubonic Plague centuries ago. Many of us
think that if the world doesn't stablise population growth
a much larger one is coming eventually, perhaps not that
many generations ahead given global warming and climatic
changes.

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:13 pm
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:43:03 GMT, "AlmostBob"
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>gday 'roo16
>local supermarket chain has ceased carrying vegemite in the foreign foods
>section, the withdrawl is killing.
>vegemite and Kraft cheese spread in a drinking glass container, cheeze whiz
>doesnt cut it.

Personally, not too fond of many processed cheese spreads,
although am quite fond of Philadelphia Cream Cheese, and a
variety of sharper aged cheeses such as blue vein.

What sort of Kraft cheese do you have in mind? What percentage
of cheese and Vegemite?

At suitable proportions, I might accept a spread with a low
percentage of Vegemite in it. Must admit haven't tried mixing
it with Philadelphia Cream Cheese.
>
>would like to find someone to mail it, rellies just laugh

Postal services can be slow, so I assume that you are a tourist
spending some time in the country, working there, etc.

I have lived in places in Australia where I couldn't find
a favorite grocery item. Stores may not carry an item simply
because shelf space is at a premium and they don't want to
put it on the shelf and have it go out of date for lack of
demand.

I've solved the problem by asking the manager/ owner if he
would order in a full case of the product for me. I generally
get it at a cheaper price than would pay for buying the same
quantity in cans or jars off the shelf a few at a time. After
all, he doesn't have to have it put on the shelf and have a clerk
price it.

Am sure it could be transported in air parcel post un
refrigerated as long as jar seal is intact. Even after opening,
will last
quite a long time due to the high salt content.

Assuming that wherever you are allows the postal import of same
without imposing a customs charge or inspection charge.

You might check with your local postal authorities on this issue,
and if it is feasible, am sure that some fellow Vegamite lover
in Australia will take pity on you and post you some.

If this fails, have you considered a pleading e-mail or letter to
the marketing manager at the nearest Kraft office? [ Perhaps even
with an accompanying recommendation from some local medical
adviser? Smile ]

Perhaps they would consider sending you some as a public
relations gesture. Would even make a good news item if they
contact the proper media sources.

Perhaps the headline could read "Kraft (Australia) sends care
package of Vegemite to desperate Aussie"

After all, Kraft is not exactly an impoverished corporation, and
their advertising budget should allow for quite a few such
mailings. I suspect that their Australian advertising budget
would be pretty high. T.V. commercials and other promotions
aren't exactly cheap.

An offer to supply genuinely desperate overseas Australians,
perhaps under the name of "Kraft cares for needy Vegemite
lovers", should generate good publicity here and increase
sales.

Hopes this helps, please keep the group informed of your
progress.

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
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