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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:16 pm
Post subject: Where do Brits go abroad?
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Figures (in 1000's) taken from
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Product.asp?vlnk=1905&Pos=1&ColR...=1&Rank
show the number of visits made abroad by UK residents to overseas
destination in 2006
Destination 2006
Spain 14,359
France 10,847
Ireland 4,587
USA 3,834
Italy 3,343
Germany 2,665
Greece 2,418
Netherlands 2,377
Portugal 1,927
Belgium 1,790
Turkey 1,391
Cyprus 1,298
Rest of Europe 1,231
Poland 1,228
Switzerland 1,090
India 914
Czech Rep 770
Other Africa 748
Canada 690
Austria 689
Egypt 679
Other Caribbean 672
Other Asia 605
Australia 563
South Africa 519
Malta 495
United Arab Emirates 477
Rest of the World 460
Thailand 412
Pakistan 408
Sweden 385
Denmark 383
Other North Africa 381
Norway 360
Other China 309
Bulgaria 305
Hungary 301
Tunisia 291
Other Central & South America 280
Other Middle East 272
New Zealand 214
Mexico 212
Finland 186
Jamaica 185
Hong Kong 182
Barbados 169
Japan 135
Sri Lanka 134
Luxembourg 111
Israel 110
Iceland 97
Gibraltar 54
Makes for some very interesting reading.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:32 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:28 am
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In message <P5GdnbiRo64e1hjanZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>, Graham Harrison
<edward.obvious.harrison1.RemoveThis@btinternet.obvious.com> writes
>I take it we add three zeros (so Spain become 14,359,000)?
That's what the first line of the posting, "Figures (in 1000's)", means
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:04 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:04 pm
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:04:32 +0100, "tim \(not at home\)"
<tims_new_home DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>How on earth do they work this out so accurately?
you know that micro chip in your passport, well combine that with the GPS chip
in your mobile phone and we know where you are all the time.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:36 pm
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"Lansbury" <lansbury.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:04:32 +0100, "tim \(not at home\)"
> <tims_new_home.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>How on earth do they work this out so accurately?
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> you know that micro chip in your passport, well combine that with the GPS
> chip
> in your mobile phone and we know where you are all the time.
I have neither
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:12 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:37 am
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In message <4eqfo3p179a08bk1l9isrbpvng40rbub7n RemoveThis @4ax.com>, at 14:12:47 on
Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Lansbury <lansbury RemoveThis @spamcop.net> remarked:
>>I have neither
>
>you don't have a mobile phone less than 2 years old?
Are you suggesting all phones less than two years old have a secret GPS
receiver built in?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:37 am
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"Lansbury" <lansbury DeleteThis @spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:48:52 +0100, "tim \(not at home\)"
> <tims_new_home DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>I have neither
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> you don't have a mobile phone less than 2 years old?
Nope.
And even if I did, the majority of them don't have a GPS chip in.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:59 am
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:41:09 +0000, Roland Perry <roland DeleteThis @perry.co.uk>
wrote:
>Are you suggesting all phones less than two years old have a secret GPS
>receiver built in?
I would doubt that. You can triangulate the position of a phone based
on the base stations it's connected to, but that isn't quite as
accurate.
Neil
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:33 pm
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:41:09 +0000, Roland Perry <roland RemoveThis @perry.co.uk> wrote:
>Are you suggesting all phones less than two years old have a secret GPS
>receiver built in?
All phones that are less than 2 years old and which have the ability to work
in the US have a GPS chip in them.
I was at Lake Oswego Communications Center a few weeks back and had the system
demonstrated to me. A 911 call came in from a cell phone and a map opened up
on the dispatchers monitor and a green triangle came on the map. The green
triangle was the cell phone location accurate to within 5 feet, generated by
the GPS chip in the phone.
I asked only in the US then and was told no, any phone that can be used in the
US and is on a service which has a roaming agreement with a US cell phone
service has the GPS chip built in. They said any phone less than 2 years old
has the chip in.
The question was a bit tongue in cheek because I the UK was going along the
same road as well..
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:34 pm
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:05:33 +0100, "tim \(not at home\)"
<tims_new_home RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>And even if I did, the majority of them don't have a GPS chip in.
see my reply to Roland
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 am
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:33:14 -0800, Lansbury <lansbury.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net>
wrote:
>I was at Lake Oswego Communications Center a few weeks back and had the system
>demonstrated to me. A 911 call came in from a cell phone and a map opened up
>on the dispatchers monitor and a green triangle came on the map. The green
>triangle was the cell phone location accurate to within 5 feet, generated by
>the GPS chip in the phone.
As I stated before, that can be done by triangulating the position
with base stations (though not to 5', mind you none of my 3 GPSes can
do it to 5' either).
>I asked only in the US then and was told no, any phone that can be used in the
>US and is on a service which has a roaming agreement with a US cell phone
>service has the GPS chip built in. They said any phone less than 2 years old
>has the chip in.
I believe that is incorrect. Were it correct, GPS software would
likely be available for any such phone (if the feature's there, why
not use it and make money from it, after all?), and for mine (Motorola
RAZR) it is not.
Neil
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 am
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:57:11 GMT, wensleydale.DeleteThis@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil
Williams) wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:33:14 -0800, Lansbury <lansbury.DeleteThis@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
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>>I was at Lake Oswego Communications Center a few weeks back and had the system
>>demonstrated to me. A 911 call came in from a cell phone and a map opened up
>>on the dispatchers monitor and a green triangle came on the map. The green
>>triangle was the cell phone location accurate to within 5 feet, generated by
>>the GPS chip in the phone.
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>As I stated before, that can be done by triangulating the position
>with base stations (though not to 5', mind you none of my 3 GPSes can
>do it to 5' either).
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Well I stood there and saw it. It pinpointed the location of a call
originating in Oregon City so as far as I'm concerned that was done. The green
triangle came up on the screen in the street the guy was in.
>>I asked only in the US then and was told no, any phone that can be used in the
>>US and is on a service which has a roaming agreement with a US cell phone
>>service has the GPS chip built in. They said any phone less than 2 years old
>>has the chip in.
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>I believe that is incorrect. Were it correct, GPS software would
>likely be available for any such phone (if the feature's there, why
>not use it and make money from it, after all?), and for mine (Motorola
>RAZR) it is not.
>
I can only repeat what I was told and the guy was demonstrating it on one of
the normal despatch consol at LO Com, so I have to assume he was reasonably
knowledgeable about it.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:38 am
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In message <u61jo3df5qe8rleiu789vvso75ap0bvcug.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, at 19:33:14 on
Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Lansbury <lansbury.RemoveThis@spamcop.net> remarked:
>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:41:09 +0000, Roland Perry <roland.RemoveThis@perry.co.uk> wrote:
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>>Are you suggesting all phones less than two years old have a secret GPS
>>receiver built in?
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>All phones that are less than 2 years old and which have the ability to work
>in the US have a GPS chip in them.
Even the cheapest PAYG phone sold in the UK will roam to the US, and I
simply don't believe they have GPS in.
This up-beat article only claims "1 in 4 by 2008":
http://www.globallocate.com/PRESS/Press_Releases/PR_SingleChip_1.htm
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