Canada and USA this August

beer_monster12002.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk <beer_monster12002.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> We are in the early stages of putting together an itinerary for our
> trip this August. Flights and car hire are booked.
> We arrive at Calgary Airport in August for 10 days. We want to see
> Glacier NP in Montana. Also the Icefields Parkway and maybe Vancouver.

Ten days is not very much time to see all you want. If you are
departing from Calgary too, I'd consider this itinerary:

Head west from Calgary to Banff, and then north to Jasper. Go west to
BC, and then take Hwy 95 south along the Rockies to Kimberley. Take Hwy
93 south to Montana, visit Glacier, come back through Waterton. Spend
some time in the Alberta foothills. Drumheller has some interesting
badland topography and a very interesting natural history museum if that
interests you.

I would only venture to the BC coast if you can fly back from Vancouver
or Victoria, either to Calgary to catch your return flight, or better
yet, change your flight home so you don't have to go back to Calgary at
all.

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.
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"Ed Treijs" <etreijs.DeleteThis@europa.algorithmics.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <87c28027-30fc-4664-9f1d-50616c2fe8b2.DeleteThis@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> beer_monster12002.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk <beer_monster12002.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>What places of interest (if any) are there along the way?
>>We would then drive up to Whistler and then carry on back to the
>
> Nelson is the nicest small town in eastern BC. It has history and culture
> (and
> counter-culture) and is well worth a stopover.
>
> Idaho Peak is in the area; the road up should be snow-free in August.
> This
> lets you do a loop around Kaslo and New Denver and the silver mines. Mind
> you, how much time can you spend exploring one area when you want to cross
> BC?

I agree with most of your comments but Nelson? It's full of left-wing loonie
traitors whose prime raison d'etre is to stay stoned.
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""Király"" <me.RemoveThis@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote in message
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> beer_monster12002.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk <beer_monster12002.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> We are in the early stages of putting together an itinerary for our
>> trip this August. Flights and car hire are booked.
>> We arrive at Calgary Airport in August for 10 days. We want to see
>> Glacier NP in Montana. Also the Icefields Parkway and maybe Vancouver.
>
> Ten days is not very much time to see all you want. If you are
> departing from Calgary too, I'd consider this itinerary:
>
> Head west from Calgary to Banff, and then north to Jasper. Go west to
> BC, and then take Hwy 95 south along the Rockies to Kimberley. Take Hwy
> 93 south to Montana, visit Glacier, come back through Waterton. Spend
> some time in the Alberta foothills. Drumheller has some interesting
> badland topography and a very interesting natural history museum if that
> interests you.
>
> I would only venture to the BC coast if you can fly back from Vancouver
> or Victoria, either to Calgary to catch your return flight, or better
> yet, change your flight home so you don't have to go back to Calgary at
> all.
>
> --
> K.
>
> Lang may your lum reek.

I've lived in Alberta for 61 years and agree with your suggestions.
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On Jan 29, 9:00 am, "Jochen Kriegerowski" <joinva....DeleteThis@smtp.ru> wrote:
> "MI" <quilchenap....DeleteThis@shaw.ca> schrieb
>
> > One thing we all have to remember. This is an Englishman who drives on the
> > left side of the road. He will not be familiar with any of the roads we
> > are talking about and in a tight situation could turn the wheel the wrong
> > way.
>
> I've been driving in the UK several times, and you get used to the "wrong"
> side fairly quickly. And if at all, it's the towns that are a problem, not
> the roads in the countryside.
> Biggest problem for me when driving on the left side: To shift gears with
> the "wrong" hand, but since all rental cars are automatic in Canada:
> Problem solved. He will probably sit on the right front seat occasionally
> when starting off in the morning, wondering who stole the steering wheel.
> Happened to me a few times in England <vbg>
>
> Jochen from Germany

Actually, my worst times driving on the "wrong side" experiences are
in parking lots where there are no center stripes and you are only
concerned about parking and tend to forget the driving.
In my original post I recommended driving from Lillooet toward the
coast on Hwy 99 instead of the opposite direction because then the
dropoff is on the other side of the road when you proceed along the
long cliff face, and I'm sure a person wouldn't be comfortable driving
on the "wrong side" of the road in that situation next to the dropoff.

George
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On Jan 29, 11:24 am, "Jochen Kriegerowski" <joinva... RemoveThis @smtp.ru> wrote:
> "george" <gpolkow... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schrieb
>
> > In my original post I recommended driving from Lillooet toward the
> > coast on Hwy 99 instead of the opposite direction because then the
> > dropoff is on the other side of the road when you proceed along the
> > long cliff face, and I'm sure a person wouldn't be comfortable driving
> > on the "wrong side" of the road in that situation next to the dropoff.
>
> But if you drive from Lillooet towards the coast, the dropoff *is* right
> next to you, on the right side, between Whistler and Britannia Beach.
> Or are you talking about some other cliff along the route?
>
> But still it is the nicer direction because of the view. If you drive north,
> the most spectacular scenery is only visible through the rear vier mirror.
>
> Jochen from Germany

I'm talking about the big cliff face which you ascend right after you
leave Lillooet heading for the coast long before Pemberton or Mt.
Curry. The beginning of the stretch which is two lanes wide which
then narrows to one lane bridges several times. It's been a few years
since I driven that route, but I can't remember any other place along
that road that I would be leery of driving, or anywhere else in the
route I had described. Britannia Beach is way on the other side of
Whistler.

Ba the way, where do you live in Germany?

George, living in Stuttgart
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"MI" <quilchenapark.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> schrieb

> One thing we all have to remember. This is an Englishman who drives on the
> left side of the road. He will not be familiar with any of the roads we
> are talking about and in a tight situation could turn the wheel the wrong
> way.

I've been driving in the UK several times, and you get used to the "wrong"
side fairly quickly. And if at all, it's the towns that are a problem, not
the roads in the countryside.
Biggest problem for me when driving on the left side: To shift gears with
the "wrong" hand, but since all rental cars are automatic in Canada:
Problem solved. He will probably sit on the right front seat occasionally
when starting off in the morning, wondering who stole the steering wheel.
Happened to me a few times in England <vbg>

Jochen from Germany
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"george" <gpolkowski RemoveThis @yahoo.com> schrieb

> In my original post I recommended driving from Lillooet toward the
> coast on Hwy 99 instead of the opposite direction because then the
> dropoff is on the other side of the road when you proceed along the
> long cliff face, and I'm sure a person wouldn't be comfortable driving
> on the "wrong side" of the road in that situation next to the dropoff.

But if you drive from Lillooet towards the coast, the dropoff *is* right
next to you, on the right side, between Whistler and Britannia Beach.
Or are you talking about some other cliff along the route?

But still it is the nicer direction because of the view. If you drive north,
the most spectacular scenery is only visible through the rear vier mirror.

Jochen from Germany
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"george" <gpolkowski.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> schrieb

> I'm talking about the big cliff face which you ascend right after you
> leave Lillooet heading for the coast long before Pemberton or Mt.
> Curry. The beginning of the stretch which is two lanes wide which
> then narrows to one lane bridges several times. It's been a few years
> since I driven that route

It's been several years for me too so I had a look on the map to
remember - and yes, I thought there might be some dropoffs where
you describe them, but I wasn't sure.

> Britannia Beach is way on the other side of Whistler.

True. But it's quite steep, down to the Pacific, at some points as far
as I remember.

> Ba the way, where do you live in Germany?

Potsdam

> living in Stuttgart

Oh, right.
....almost next door, if you think about Canadian distances!

Jochen
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On 1/29/08 12:00 AM, in article fnmmeq$rbo$00$1@news.t-online.com, "Jochen
Kriegerowski" <joinvalid DeleteThis @smtp.ru> wrote:

> "MI" <quilchenapark DeleteThis @shaw.ca> schrieb
>
>> One thing we all have to remember. This is an Englishman who drives on the
>> left side of the road. He will not be familiar with any of the roads we
>> are talking about and in a tight situation could turn the wheel the wrong
>> way.
>
> I've been driving in the UK several times, and you get used to the "wrong"
> side fairly quickly. And if at all, it's the towns that are a problem, not
> the roads in the countryside.
> Biggest problem for me when driving on the left side: To shift gears with
> the "wrong" hand, but since all rental cars are automatic in Canada:
> Problem solved. He will probably sit on the right front seat occasionally
> when starting off in the morning, wondering who stole the steering wheel.
> Happened to me a few times in England <vbg>
>
> Jochen from Germany
>
When driving back from Port Arthur to Hobart, our driver mentioned that
there are a lot of accidents in the evening. Nearly all them caused by
Americans suddenly confronted by a kangaroo and turning the wheel the wrong
way. That was my point at the time. Driving under ordinary conditions people
usually do well. I had a fried who drove all over the British Isles and got
into an accident less than a mile from the rental agency. Tight squeeze and
instinctively turned the wheel the wrong way.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
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On 1/29/08 2:52 AM, in article fnn0lh$fr0$00$1@news.t-online.com, "Jochen
Kriegerowski" <joinvalid.DeleteThis@smtp.ru> wrote:

> "george" <gpolkowski.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> schrieb
>
>> I'm talking about the big cliff face which you ascend right after you
>> leave Lillooet heading for the coast long before Pemberton or Mt.
>> Curry. The beginning of the stretch which is two lanes wide which
>> then narrows to one lane bridges several times. It's been a few years
>> since I driven that route
>
> It's been several years for me too so I had a look on the map to
> remember - and yes, I thought there might be some dropoffs where
> you describe them, but I wasn't sure.
>
>> Britannia Beach is way on the other side of Whistler.
>
> True. But it's quite steep, down to the Pacific, at some points as far
> as I remember.
>
>> Ba the way, where do you live in Germany?
>
> Potsdam
>
>> living in Stuttgart
>
> Oh, right.
> ...almost next door, if you think about Canadian distances!
>
>
> Jochen

Guys. Your information is good except between Vancouver and Whistler and a
little beyond. The Sea to Sky Highway is being converted to a 4 lane highway
in time for the Olympics. It's not finished, but is nearly there.
--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
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Hello all,

Many thanks for all the responses. On reflection I have to agree that
10 days will not do justice to the area. We don't want to spend all
day everyday stuck on the seat of a car.
So to plan B.
First night after landing at Calgary drive and stay in Lethbridge.
Next day on to Waterton Lakes and drive along Akamina Parkway and Red
Rock Parkway.
Maybe a short hike.
Then onto Swiftcurrent for a couple of days. Iceberg trail a must.
When finished on to the Going into the sun highway.
Any recomendations for Trails, hidden gems along this road. Plan to
stay somewhere between Logan Pass and Lake McDonald for a night or two
then backup to the Icefields and Yoho National Park as per sharx35
suggestion.
With so much to see and do I think this will be just the start of many
visits over the coming years.
Feel free to suggest Plan C D E. ..........
Thanks again.
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In article <bc05bae7-fad9-49c5-9976-602e2739f6ab.RemoveThis@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
beer_monster12002.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk <beer_monster12002.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>Many thanks for all the responses. On reflection I have to agree that
>10 days will not do justice to the area. We don't want to spend all
>day everyday stuck on the seat of a car.
>So to plan B.
>First night after landing at Calgary drive and stay in Lethbridge.
>Next day on to Waterton Lakes and drive along Akamina Parkway and Red
>Rock Parkway.
>Maybe a short hike.
.....
>Any recomendations for Trails, hidden gems along this road. Plan to
>stay somewhere between Logan Pass and Lake McDonald for a night or two
>then backup to the Icefields and Yoho National Park as per sharx35
>suggestion.

I found the guide "Don't waste your time in the Rockies" to be very useful
back in 2003. They appear to have an updated version available:
http://www.hikingcamping.com/time_canadian_rockies.php

Looking through the hikes should give you some idea of where you want to
visit.

A lot of the hikes are pretty stenuous, because you're going up mountains.
But the views and experience is worth it I think.

The best hike in the Rockies that I've been on was in Waterton Park. Take
the Rowe Lakes trail, and then continue up to the big ridge overlooking
Lineham Lakes. This was one of the "premier" hikes in the "Don't Waste your
time" book, and it sure lived up to it. Not for agoraphobics, though.

.....Ed
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<beer_monster12002.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> Many thanks for all the responses. On reflection I have to agree that
> 10 days will not do justice to the area. We don't want to spend all
> day everyday stuck on the seat of a car.
> So to plan B.
> First night after landing at Calgary drive and stay in Lethbridge.

Why bother with Lethbridge? Waterton is only a couple of hours south of
Calgary.


> Next day on to Waterton Lakes and drive along Akamina Parkway and Red
> Rock Parkway.
> Maybe a short hike.
> Then onto Swiftcurrent for a couple of days. Iceberg trail a must.

WHICH Swiftcurrent? Surely NOT the place in Saskatchewan. Nothing there.


> When finished on to the Going into the sun highway.
> Any recomendations for Trails, hidden gems along this road. Plan to
> stay somewhere between Logan Pass and Lake McDonald for a night or two
> then backup to the Icefields and Yoho National Park as per sharx35
> suggestion.
> With so much to see and do I think this will be just the start of many
> visits over the coming years.
> Feel free to suggest Plan C D E. ..........
> Thanks again.
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