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Since: Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:37 am
Post subject: Driving Cross country in December Archived from groups: alt>travel>road-trip, others (more info?)
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My plans for driving cross country in mid-October fell through due to
illness, and now I will need to drive in End of November/early December.
I am driving from NYC to Seattle, and driving a VW Golf in good shape with
new all-seasons. The car will be loaded to the hilt including stuff on the
roof (moving).
I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
been I-80 / I-90.
How treatcherous would that same route be in December? One could always
check the weather report I suppose, but I really don't want to get stuck
somewhere in the middle waiting out a surprise blizzard for a week.
So, I am looking for suggestions.
I thought of I-40 across, but it adds at least 3 days to the trip. Is it
worth going all the way down to 40, ir is I-70 enough?
Any alternatives to interstates that would be fun if I am south enough to
not get snowed in?
Any other advice welcome.
Rex >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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Since: Jan 09, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:16 am
Post subject: Re: Driving Cross country in December [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Rex Vincere wrote:
> My plans for driving cross country in mid-October fell through due to
> illness, and now I will need to drive in End of November/early December.
> I am driving from NYC to Seattle, and driving a VW Golf in good shape with
> new all-seasons. The car will be loaded to the hilt including stuff on the
> roof (moving).
>
> I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
> been I-80 / I-90.
> How treatcherous would that same route be in December? One could always
> check the weather report I suppose, but I really don't want to get stuck
> somewhere in the middle waiting out a surprise blizzard for a week.
>
> So, I am looking for suggestions.
> I thought of I-40 across, but it adds at least 3 days to the trip. Is it
> worth going all the way down to 40, ir is I-70 enough?
>
> Any alternatives to interstates that would be fun if I am south enough to
> not get snowed in?
>
> Any other advice welcome.
>
> Rex
The 180/90 route would be the best. I have made that trip many times
both before and after the interstates. Only once (late Dec 6  was I
held up by weather and even then it was only a matter of driving very
slowly for the first 4 hours. I have had to make an unsched
overnighter due to weather in both Texas and Colorado (different
trips). Just plan on one but it is unlikely to be necessary. My best
time for the trip was 3 days (Syracuse/Spokane). Interstates are well
maintained and cleared rapidly after storms. Only rarely do the real
storms occur and these days they are predicted well in advance.
One thing. Keep your speed down. Your car is going to handle like a
pig (BTDT too).
Harry K >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:45 am
Post subject: Re: Driving Cross country in December [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Rex Vincere wrote:
> My plans for driving cross country in mid-October fell through due to
> illness, and now I will need to drive in End of November/early December.
> I am driving from NYC to Seattle, and driving a VW Golf in good shape with
> new all-seasons. The car will be loaded to the hilt including stuff on the
> roof (moving).
>
> I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
> been I-80 / I-90.
> How treatcherous would that same route be in December? One could always
> check the weather report I suppose, but I really don't want to get stuck
> somewhere in the middle waiting out a surprise blizzard for a week.
>
> So, I am looking for suggestions.
> I thought of I-40 across, but it adds at least 3 days to the trip. Is it
> worth going all the way down to 40, ir is I-70 enough?
>
> Any alternatives to interstates that would be fun if I am south enough to
> not get snowed in?
>
> Any other advice welcome.
>
> Rex
I've hit snow in Wyoming in June, so I would avoid I-80 and the more
northern I-90 in December. Even if you don't hit snow a breakdown
could leave you stranded in very cold country. Stay south on I-40 and
watch the speed especially around large trucks with what sounds like a
top heavy and loaded VW.
If you need to get there in the shortest possible time and the northern
route is the only option just keep up with weather forecasts. >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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Since: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:53 am
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"Rex Vincere" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.org> wrote
> I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
> been I-80 / I-90.
> How treatcherous would that same route be in December? One could always
> check the weather report I suppose, but I really don't want to get stuck
> somewhere in the middle waiting out a surprise blizzard for a week.
>
> So, I am looking for suggestions.
> I thought of I-40 across, but it adds at least 3 days to the trip. Is it
> worth going all the way down to 40, ir is I-70 enough?
I think I agree with Harry. The reason is that any weather system that
impacts I90 will usually hit I80 & I70 as well. In many respects I90 is
better because it's route through the northern tier (Montana especially)
is easier than I80/I70 through the CO/WY/UT area. In your place, I
would probably go I80 until you get into the IL/Iowa area, then go up
to I90. Don't hit Chicago near rush hour(s) - Brent says to pay the
tolls and don't go I90 there in any case.
FloydR >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:27 pm
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"Rex Vincere" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:zt2dnZSX5IcxgrzeRVn-1g@speakeasy.net...
> My plans for driving cross country in mid-October fell through due to
> illness, and now I will need to drive in End of November/early December.
> I am driving from NYC to Seattle, and driving a VW Golf in good shape with
> new all-seasons. The car will be loaded to the hilt including stuff on the
> roof (moving).
>
> I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
> been I-80 / I-90.
> How treatcherous would that same route be in December?
Not very. You might see a little snow in spots, but the INTERSTATES 80/90
tend to stay pretty clear anyway, even during snowfalls. The only worry
would be if you happen to drive into a freak early blizzard in the Dakotas
section or further West. The odds of that happening are really low though.
If you can find room somewhere, carry a coffee can or similar metal
container, candles, waterproof matches, candy bars and blankets with you. A
cell phone is handy, but much of the area where blizzards would be an issue,
there is NO SIGNAL. So you should be prepared to survive a few days in the
car, just in case. But don't expect anything to happen. The trip will
probably be very boring, and that's good. That's not saying you shouldn't
be prepared for the worst, though. -Dave >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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Since: Jun 12, 2004 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:38 pm
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You should consider either towing a mini trailer or renting
a moving truck and a car trailer. That's what I would do.
Overloading a car is not a good idea - make sure you do not
exceed its maximum load, and piling stuff on the roof will make
crosswinds a hazard. >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:38 pm
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The weight is not a problem (all the heavy stuff like books have been
shipped). An on top I will have a big Thule box (hoping they are aerodynamic
enough against x-winds) and a bike. I might go for the Sears box which is
bigger and boxier if I need to. (about 150 lbs of stuff + the box + plus the
bike (25lbs)
Inside will be a maximum of 350 lbs (that's what the car takes if I filled
it with boxes of books, and I am not carrying books), and I am going to put
a truck bed net behind the driver's row to stop objects from flying in case
of emergency braking/crashing.
I thought of a truck and a car trailer, but decided driving something I have
no experience in driving/handling in possible winter conditions is even less
smart, no?
Rex
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> You should consider either towing a mini trailer or renting
> a moving truck and a car trailer. That's what I would do.
> Overloading a car is not a good idea - make sure you do not
> exceed its maximum load, and piling stuff on the roof will make
> crosswinds a hazard. >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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Since: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:02 pm
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The first part of your trip will always be to Chicago.
From Chicago, if you were to take 94 and go north through Minneap, Bismark,
Billings, and Walla Walla, the distance is 2870 miles.
From Chicago, if you were to take 90 through Sioux Falls, and Rapid City,
Billings, the distance is 2911 miles.
From Chicago, if you were to take 81 through Des Moins, Lincoln, Cheyenne,
Salt Lake, then take 84/82 on to Seattle, the distance is 2976 miles.
From Chicago, down 55 to St Louis, then 70 west to KC, Denver, over to Salt
Lake, and 84/82 up to Seattle, the distance is 3131 miles.
The difference between the northernmost I-94/90 route and the southernmost
I-70 route is only 261 miles. That should only add 4 hours to your trip,
not 3 days.
I'd pick a route that avoids the (bad) weather at the time and don't worry
about how much longer it takes.
Better SAFE than SORRY.
"Rex Vincere" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.org> wrote in message
news:zt2dnZSX5IcxgrzeRVn-1g@speakeasy.net...
> My plans for driving cross country in mid-October fell through due to
> illness, and now I will need to drive in End of November/early December.
> I am driving from NYC to Seattle, and driving a VW Golf in good shape with
> new all-seasons. The car will be loaded to the hilt including stuff on the
> roof (moving).
>
> I am wondering what the best route would be. My October route would have
> been I-80 / I-90.
> How treatcherous would that same route be in December? One could always
> check the weather report I suppose, but I really don't want to get stuck
> somewhere in the middle waiting out a surprise blizzard for a week.
>
> So, I am looking for suggestions.
> I thought of I-40 across, but it adds at least 3 days to the trip. Is it
> worth going all the way down to 40, ir is I-70 enough?
>
> Any alternatives to interstates that would be fun if I am south enough to
> not get snowed in?
>
> Any other advice welcome.
>
> Rex
>
> >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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Since: Dec 23, 2005 Posts: 495
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:55 am
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In article <Gd6dnZNDeu8XWrzeRVn-2A.DeleteThis@speakeasy.net>,
"Rex Vincere" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.org> wrote:
> The weight is not a problem (all the heavy stuff like books have been
> shipped). An on top I will have a big Thule box (hoping they are aerodynamic
> enough against x-winds) and a bike. I might go for the Sears box which is
> bigger and boxier if I need to. (about 150 lbs of stuff + the box + plus the
> bike (25lbs)
> Inside will be a maximum of 350 lbs (that's what the car takes if I filled
> it with boxes of books, and I am not carrying books), and I am going to put
> a truck bed net behind the driver's row to stop objects from flying in case
> of emergency braking/crashing.
>
> I thought of a truck and a car trailer, but decided driving something I have
> no experience in driving/handling in possible winter conditions is even less
> smart, no?
How much do you value your time? Unless your time is worthless, I would
just sell that car and as many of the items you plan to bring with you
as possible, then ship the rest and buy yourself the cheapest possible
plane ticket to Seattle. You'll save a huge amount of time and hassle
that way. >> Stay informed about: Driving Cross country in December |
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