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Graculus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:32 pm
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Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there are
for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be specific) to drop off
or pick up passengers? BAA's web site is pretty hopeless, just talking about
"restrictions" and urging to use public transport.

I am flying from LGW on Sunday, and am assuming these restrictions will
still be in place (as we have to be seen to be doing something, no matter
how futile). Getting there by public transport is easy if you're coming from
London or Brighton, but to get there from nearby, e.g. East Grinstead, that
just doesn't work.

They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car parks.
(a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports I
hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have no
confirmation one way or the other.
(b) If you aren't allowed to do anything but go through the car park, even
if you just drive through and drop someone off, will they still demand £2.40
off you for 30 minutes "parking"? If so, that's surely exthortion.

As I said, I have just pieced this together from what I can find out from
web sites and news bulletins. Does anyone out there have more than just
speculation, i.e. actual facts about the situation. Has anyone been through
in the last couple of days?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:32 pm
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On Jul 3, 6:19 pm, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni....TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there are
> for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be specific) to drop off
> or pick up passengers?

Yes, thousands. Dunno if anyone here does though Smile

> I am flying from LGW on Sunday, and am assuming these restrictions will
> still be in place (as we have to be seen to be doing something, no matter
> how futile). Getting there by public transport is easy if you're coming from
> London or Brighton

And a suitcase-style bomb on a train passing thorugh the staiton would
be nice and disruptive (from the inevitable overraction if nothing
else)

> , but to get there from nearby, e.g. East Grinstead, that
> just doesn't work.

A change at east croydon doesn't appeal? There are busses I assume,
although I appreciate why you wouldn't want to share with the scummy
unwashed.

> They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car parks.
> (a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports I
> hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have no
> confirmation one way or the other.

There will be lots of people driving there, so even if you just turn
up there will be signs telling you where to go. Worst case head for
the car hire place, I'm sure that Hertz etc. would be up in arms if
you weren't allowed to drive in there!

> (b) If you aren't allowed to do anything but go through the car park, even
> if you just drive through and drop someone off, will they still demand £2.40
> off you for 30 minutes "parking"? If so, that's surely exthortion.

I've driven through the car park before after taking a wrong turn, the
first terminal near the M23 (I forget which). Not sure when the "free"
time times out.

> As I said, I have just pieced this together from what I can find out from
> web sites and news bulletins. Does anyone out there have more than just
> speculation, i.e. actual facts about the situation. Has anyone been through
> in the last couple of days?

It could be worthwhile taking a taxi from East Grinstead, but might
have the same restriction.

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Adrian

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:34 pm
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Graculus (ReplaceWithMyMoniker@hotmail.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

> Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions
> there are for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be
> specific) to drop off or pick up passengers?

> I am flying from LGW on Sunday, and am assuming these restrictions
> will still be in place

Whatever current restrictions are in place will almost certainly have
changed one way or t'other by Sunday.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:29 pm
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In message <5evemtF3ajispU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>, at 18:19:01 on Tue, 3
Jul 2007, Graculus <ReplaceWithMyMoniker DeleteThis @hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there
>are for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be specific) to
>drop off or pick up passengers?

It's not all that far from the second roundabout at the end of the link
road to the M23, to the North Terminal. If your passengers are
reasonably healthy, and it's not pouring with rain, you could perhaps
drop them off there.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:28 am
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On 3 Jul, 18:19, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni....DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there are
> for driving into LondonGatwick(North Terminal to be specific) to drop off
> or pick up passengers? BAA's web site is pretty hopeless, just talking about
> "restrictions" and urging to use public transport.

The main problem is -- or was -- that there is a huge back-up of
traffic entering the airport. It was reported on Sunday to be 8 miles
long. My wife had to take my daughter and her friends there on Monday
morning and I suggested she drop them at Horley station, 3 minutes and
a GBP 1.30 fare from Gatwick Airport station, and she said that worked
fine.

The station at Gatwick is next to the South Terminal, but there is a
free people mover to the North Terminal close to the station and it
only takes 5-10 minutes.

Hope that helps.

Peter CS
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Steve Firth

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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Graculus <ReplaceWithMyMoniker RemoveThis @hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car parks.

The last time I used short stay at Gatwick, it was conveniently located
close to Departures, so it's not an inconvenience.

> (a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports I
> hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have no
> confirmation one way or the other.

That sounds probable, because the same restriction is in place at other
car parks.

> (b) If you aren't allowed to do anything but go through the car park, even
> if you just drive through and drop someone off, will they still demand £2.40
> off you for 30 minutes "parking"? If so, that's surely exthortion.

Don't know. At other (some) other airports entering short stay and
leaving within 15 minutes is free. Check the Gatwick webshite?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Graculus <ReplaceWithMyMoniker.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car
>> parks.
>
> The last time I used short stay at Gatwick, it was conveniently located
> close to Departures, so it's not an inconvenience.
>
>> (a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports
>> I
>> hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have
>> no
>> confirmation one way or the other.
>
> That sounds probable, because the same restriction is in place at other
> car parks.
>
>> (b) If you aren't allowed to do anything but go through the car park,
>> even
>> if you just drive through and drop someone off, will they still demand
>> £2.40
>> off you for 30 minutes "parking"? If so, that's surely exthortion.
>
> Don't know. At other (some) other airports entering short stay and
> leaving within 15 minutes is free. Check the Gatwick webshite?

Doesn't say - I've looked
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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<pjcs00.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> On 3 Jul, 18:19, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni....DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there
>> are
>> for driving into LondonGatwick(North Terminal to be specific) to drop off
>> or pick up passengers? BAA's web site is pretty hopeless, just talking
>> about
>> "restrictions" and urging to use public transport.
>
> The main problem is -- or was -- that there is a huge back-up of
> traffic entering the airport. It was reported on Sunday to be 8 miles
> long. My wife had to take my daughter and her friends there on Monday
> morning and I suggested she drop them at Horley station, 3 minutes and
> a GBP 1.30 fare from Gatwick Airport station, and she said that worked
> fine.

I was considering the similar option from Three Bridges. 4 minutes and
£1.80, but easier to get to and more frequent trains.

It may all be moot anyway. I've just hear that the threat level has been
dropped, so there's a good chance these restrictions will be gone by the
weekend.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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"Roland Perry" <roland.TakeThisOut@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <5evemtF3ajispU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>, at 18:19:01 on Tue, 3 Jul
> 2007, Graculus <ReplaceWithMyMoniker.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions there
>>are for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be specific) to
>>drop off or pick up passengers?
>
> It's not all that far from the second roundabout at the end of the link
> road to the M23, to the North Terminal. If your passengers are reasonably
> healthy, and it's not pouring with rain, you could perhaps drop them off
> there.

Not sure there are pavements to the terminal, and there may even be "no
pedestrian" restrictions (can't say that I've ever looked). And the
authorities would probably want to discourage people dropping passegers off
at all sorts of arbitrary points around the airport.

There are a few public footpaths running very close the airport, but again,
not sure if they get close enough for access.

There also used to be a bus stop on the A23 northbound right as it goes
under the south terminal. Again, don't know if it's still there or if you
can't get to it any more because of the FastWay guided bus system.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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"Paul Weaver" <usenet RemoveThis @isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Jul 3, 6:19 pm, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni... RemoveThis @hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

> A change at east croydon doesn't appeal?

A very out of the way route for a road journey of less than 10 miles.

> There are busses I assume,

I think you assume too much. Especially on a Sunday.

> Worst case head for
> the car hire place, I'm sure that Hertz etc. would be up in arms if
> you weren't allowed to drive in there!

But you can't walk from there to the terminal, and I doubt Hertz would be
willing to let you use their buses.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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"Adrian" <toomany2cvs.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Graculus (ReplaceWithMyMoniker@hotmail.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying :
>
>> Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions
>> there are for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be
>> specific) to drop off or pick up passengers?
>
>> I am flying from LGW on Sunday, and am assuming these restrictions
>> will still be in place
>
> Whatever current restrictions are in place will almost certainly have
> changed one way or t'other by Sunday.

They've just reduced the threat level, so I think you're right.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:32 pm
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In message <1i0pwv4.ye5crk1ghgz5sN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, at 17:31:52 on
Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> remarked:
>> They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car parks.
>
>The last time I used short stay at Gatwick, it was conveniently located
>close to Departures, so it's not an inconvenience.

It is when everyone dropping off at the airport joins you in the queues
to get in and out of the car park.

>> (a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports I
>> hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have no
>> confirmation one way or the other.
>
>That sounds probable, because the same restriction is in place at other
>car parks.

I'm not sure why they are doing anything at Gatwick south, because the
drop-off zone is a hundred yards from the terminal building, the other
side of the railway. Or maybe they aren't, in which case all it means is
the Gatwick South dropoff and the transit become clogged with everyone
going to the North terminal...
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:32 pm
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In message <5f21t7F3b72lnU1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>, at 17:58:57 on Wed, 4
Jul 2007, Graculus <ReplaceWithMyMoniker.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>Does anyone have the actual low-down on exactly what restrictions
>>>there are for driving into London Gatwick (North Terminal to be
>>>specific) to drop off or pick up passengers?
>>
>> It's not all that far from the second roundabout at the end of the
>>link road to the M23, to the North Terminal. If your passengers are
>>reasonably healthy, and it's not pouring with rain, you could perhaps
>>drop them off there.
>
>Not sure there are pavements to the terminal, and there may even be "no
>pedestrian" restrictions (can't say that I've ever looked).

There's a hotel in the midst of all this - I'd be surprised if it wasn't
possible to legally walk in the vicinity, with a through route of some
kind to the terminal.

> And the authorities would probably want to discourage people dropping
>passegers off at all sorts of arbitrary points around the airport.

It seemed to be what was happening at Glasgow airport on Sunday (as seen
live on TV).

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:04 am
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On 4 Jul, 18:01, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni....TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Paul Weaver" <use....TakeThisOut@isorox.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1183492194.386036.50730@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 3, 6:19 pm, "Graculus" <ReplaceWithMyMoni....TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > A change at east croydon doesn't appeal?
>
> A very out of the way route for a road journey of less than 10 miles.
>
> > There are busses I assume,
>
> I think you assume too much. Especially on a Sunday.
>
> > Worst case head for
> > the car hire place, I'm sure that Hertz etc. would be up in arms if
> > you weren't allowed to drive in there!
>
> But you can't walk from there to the terminal, and I doubt Hertz would be
> willing to let you use their buses.

They won't stop you, however last time I went to Gatwick car hire
area, (South terminal I think), the offices were within walking
distance.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:07 am
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On Jul 4, 6:01 pm, Roland Perry <rol....TakeThisOut@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <1i0pwv4.ye5crk1ghgz5sN%%ste...@malloc.co.uk>, at 17:31:52 on
> Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Steve Firth <%ste...@malloc.co.uk> remarked:
>
> >> They are talking about encouraging people to use the short stay car parks.
>
> >The last time I used short stay at Gatwick, it was conveniently located
> >close to Departures, so it's not an inconvenience.
>
> It is when everyone dropping off at the airport joins you in the queues
> to get in and out of the car park.
>
> >> (a) Is this "encouraging" or "forcing"? From the incomplete news reports I
> >> hear, private cars are not allowed on the departures ramps, though I have no
> >> confirmation one way or the other.
>
> >That sounds probable, because the same restriction is in place at other
> >car parks.
>
> I'm not sure why they are doing anything at Gatwick south, because the
> drop-off zone is a hundred yards from the terminal building, the other
> side of the railway. Or maybe they aren't, in which case all it means is
> the Gatwick South dropoff and the transit become clogged with everyone
> going to the North terminal...
> --
> Roland Perry

There were huge queues onto the M23 at 7.30 this morning when they
showed the CCTV on BBC London News. If I go to Gatwick I usually cadge
a lift from my father. (You got to keep the elderly active). We always
park in the shortstay and have a cup of tea after I've checked in
before going through security. The option of the Gatwick Express is
not on for me as I'd have to go all the way into London.I'm going ther
again in August for a mid-morning flight. I'm hoping the situation
will have eased by then.

Neill
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