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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:38 pm
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4 DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:1icclyg.4h6iy3sd73wmN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> Tim C. <tim.challenger DeleteThis @aon.at> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:20 +0000, d4g4h4 DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tim C. <tim.challenger DeleteThis @aon.at> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime DeleteThis @clock.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by
>> >> >> civil
>> >> >> rights groups.
>> >> >
>> >> >It's not a done deal. It's a plan.
>> >>
>> >> It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
>> >> reach the age of consent.
>> >
>> >Why would it worry them anyway- it's not them who'll have their
>> >fingerprints taken.
>>
>> I can't see the original post. What was it about?
>> Visitors within or from outside the EU?
>
> It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
>
I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
excluded from the requirement.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:44 pm
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Lennart Petersen <lennart.petersen.DeleteThis@swipnet.se> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1icclyg.4h6iy3sd73wmN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> > Tim C. <tim.challenger.DeleteThis@aon.at> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:20 +0000, d4g4h4.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tim C. <tim.challenger.DeleteThis@aon.at> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Pat" <chime.DeleteThis@clock.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The scheme, which must be approved by all 27 EU governments before
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> can come into force in 2013 as proposed, has been criticised by
> >> >> >> civil
> >> >> >> rights groups.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's not a done deal. It's a plan.
> >> >>
> >> >> It won't worry the Spaniards. They all have their FPs taken when they
> >> >> reach the age of consent.
> >> >
> >> >Why would it worry them anyway- it's not them who'll have their
> >> >fingerprints taken.
> >>
> >> I can't see the original post. What was it about?
> >> Visitors within or from outside the EU?
> >
> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
> >
> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
> excluded from the requirement.

I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
non-EEA tourists, what then?

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Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:42 pm
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:51 pm
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:51 pm
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Martin <me.TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:36 +0000, d4g4h4.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>
> >> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
> >> >
> >> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland must be
> >> excluded from the requirement.
> >
> >I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
> >status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
> >non-EEA tourists, what then?
>
> They won't do it? Surprised)

Exactly! Which will make their Schengen agreement pointless! Smile

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:56 pm
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:56 pm
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Martin <me.DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:54:19 +0000, d4g4h4.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <me.DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:36 +0000, d4g4h4.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> > It's for non-EU (and I presume EEA) citizens entering the EU.
> >> >> >
> >> >> I would guess that at least Schengen countries like Norway,Iceland
> >> >> must be excluded from the requirement.
> >> >
> >> >I would expect this to have less to do with schengen, but with EEA
> >> >status. However, if Norway doesn't like the idea of fingerprinting all
> >> >non-EEA tourists, what then?
> >>
> >> They won't do it? Surprised)
> >
> >Exactly! Which will make their Schengen agreement pointless! Smile
>
> There isn't a Schengen agreement on finger printing.

Yes, but if Norway doesn't fingerprint these dangerous non-EEA citizens,
then _if_ other countries want to do so, they'll have to check people
coming from Norway on the basis of their nationality. Which renders one
of the points of Schengen moot...

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Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:10 pm
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:23 pm
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"Keith Anderson" <keefy RemoveThis @privacy.net> kirjoitti
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> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:09:40 +0100, Martin <me RemoveThis @address.invalid> wrote:
>
> Full marks for hitting the nail on the head! Did a little trip to
> Poland and back today, and the Balsam Pomorsky is very good indeed.
>
Balsam Pomorski. You are not drinking turpentine like that voluntarily?
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:23 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:23:37 +0200, Markku Grönroos
<kurkku.DeleteThis@hassuserveri.fi> wrote:

>
>"Keith Anderson" <keefy.DeleteThis@privacy.net> kirjoitti
>viestissä:d7l9r3d0618hdmapburinohvn0ur4a3cdr@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:09:40 +0100, Martin <me.DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Full marks for hitting the nail on the head! Did a little trip to
>> Poland and back today, and the Balsam Pomorsky is very good indeed.
>>
>Balsam Pomorski. You are not drinking turpentine like that voluntarily?

Good stuff - bitter-sweet taste.

Hard to find the Soplica Staropolska (which is my preferred brand)
because the distilling was taken over by Bols from Polmos and there
seems to be an unofficial Polish boycott of Bols's brands.


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(Msg. 41) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:23 pm
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:22 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:53:56 +0100, Martin <me.TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:48:35 +0100, Keith Anderson <keefy.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:23:37 +0200, Markku Grönroos
>><kurkku.TakeThisOut@hassuserveri.fi> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Keith Anderson" <keefy.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> kirjoitti
>>>viestissä:d7l9r3d0618hdmapburinohvn0ur4a3cdr@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:09:40 +0100, Martin <me.TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Full marks for hitting the nail on the head! Did a little trip to
>>>> Poland and back today, and the Balsam Pomorsky is very good indeed.
>>>>
>>>Balsam Pomorski. You are not drinking turpentine like that voluntarily?
>>
>>Good stuff - bitter-sweet taste.
>>
>>Hard to find the Soplica Staropolska (which is my preferred brand)
>>because the distilling was taken over by Bols from Polmos and there
>>seems to be an unofficial Polish boycott of Bols's brands.
>
>Good for them. Do they boycott Dutch "beer" too?

Can't say I've seen a sign for H**nek*n in my travels in Poland, but
there again I haven't really been looking.

Plenty of good local alternatives anyway.
>
>Heineken's take over of S&N has resulted in the closure of Reading Brewery and
>the loss of 380 jobs.


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(Msg. 43) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:39 pm
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:53 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:39:14 +0100, Martin <me.TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:22:56 +0100, Keith Anderson <keefy.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:

>>
>>Can't say I've seen a sign for H**nek*n in my travels in Poland, but
>>there again I haven't really been looking.
>
>That's because there isn't a Heineken logo on the products of the breweries
>they have taken over.
>http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/polbrew.htm
>
>Know your enemy! Surprised)
>

<<sobs>>


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