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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:54 am
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On 9 Feb, 02:38, m... RemoveThis @vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":
>
> > I'm planning a travel of 4-5 weeks (from May 4th to June 6th or
> > 13th).
>
> I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> (Memorial Day). So the kind of roads and hotels that people use for
> weekend trips will be particularly busy (not only on the holidays but
> also the whole weekend), and things like banks and post offices and
> some stores will be closed. On the other hand, places that business
> travelers go will be less busy.
>
> Victoria Day is a traditional fireworks day in some provinces, including
> Ontario, and you may be able to find a public fireworks show if you'd
> like to watch one.


What kind of holiday are these? Besides the fireworks, is there
anything of interesting?

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:02 am
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On 9 Feb, 17:55, Ed.Toro....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 10:11 am, max11 <eagles1....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ottawa is definitely a larger city with more going on thanQuebec.
> > > You would have to tell us more of your interests for us to be able to
> > > really say if you should visit Ottawa orQuebec.
> > I'm 28yo, I like to visit cities, walking on the streets (even if I
> > know spaces are bigger than European cities,so it's harder) to know
> > places, to breath the place air: I tkink this kind of approach takes
> > at least one week for each city. I like sometimes to visit museums,
> > but not many in few days and they are often so bigger that they take
> > at least one day, and I become bored because I need time to enjoy
> > them.
> > I like to see monuments, big architectures, big squares and the city
> > atmospheare.
>
> Out of the four cities Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, I think you
> will like Montreal the best. I find it's interesting to walk the
> streets in Montreal in any direction. There is a huge variety of
> architecture and the city is very lively.
>
> I would still recommend Ottawa over Quebec, because you can walk along
> the Rideau Canal and also along the Ottawa River. The Parliament
> buildings are fairly monumental--better than the Quebec National
> Assembly I think. There are also monuments like the Tomb of the
> Unknown Soldier. Because Ottawa is the capital of Canada, there are
> many public institutions and some monuments (Canada is not a really
> monument-crazy place).

So I will go to Niagara from Toronto.

Now, having 40 days, I have more journey days,
1-I could go both Ottawa and Quebec? or
2-or stay more days in some cities I will like more
3-even go to New Orleans, if it is worth it
ANy advice on the days?

New York 8-10
Boston 3
Montreal 4
Ottawa/quebec 2
Toronto 3
Niagara Falls 1
-flight-
Chicago 4
-flight-
Philadelphia 2
Washington 2-3

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:05 am
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On 9 Feb, 17:55, Ed.Toro....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 10:11 am, max11 <eagles1....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ottawa is definitely a larger city with more going on thanQuebec.
> > > You would have to tell us more of your interests for us to be able to
> > > really say if you should visit Ottawa orQuebec.
> > I'm 28yo, I like to visit cities, walking on the streets (even if I
> > know spaces are bigger than European cities,so it's harder) to know
> > places, to breath the place air: I tkink this kind of approach takes
> > at least one week for each city. I like sometimes to visit museums,
> > but not many in few days and they are often so bigger that they take
> > at least one day, and I become bored because I need time to enjoy
> > them.
> > I like to see monuments, big architectures, big squares and the city
> > atmospheare.
>
> Out of the four cities Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, I think you
> will like Montreal the best. I find it's interesting to walk the
> streets in Montreal in any direction. There is a huge variety of
> architecture and the city is very lively.
>
> I would still recommend Ottawa over Quebec, because you can walk along
> the Rideau Canal and also along the Ottawa River. The Parliament
> buildings are fairly monumental--better than the Quebec National
> Assembly I think. There are also monuments like the Tomb of the
> Unknown Soldier. Because Ottawa is the capital of Canada, there are
> many public institutions and some monuments (Canada is not a really
> monument-crazy place).

So I will go to Niagara from Toronto.

Now, having 40 days, I have more journey days,
1-I could go both Ottawa and Quebec? or
2-or stay more days in some cities I will like more, even doing a day
trip (for example to the Boston area)
3-even go to New Orleans, if it is worth it
ANy advice on the days?

New York 8-10
Boston 3
Montreal 4-5
Ottawa/quebec 2
Toronto 3
Niagara Falls 1
-flight-
Chicago 4
-flight-
Philadelphia 2
Washington 2-3
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:08 am
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On 10 Feb, 01:33, m... DeleteThis @vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":

> > And Philadelphia is better from Ny or DC?
>
> It's closer to New York. There are three choices of train service,
> all using the same tracks, depending on your preference for higher
> speed or lower cost. Amtrak has Acela Express trains scheduled to take
> about 1 hour and 10 minutes, and Regional trains scheduled for about
> 1 hour 30 minutes. Of course, they are not guaranteed to be on time.
> Or the cheap way by train is that the suburban train systems of the two
> cities meet at Trenton, so you can go that way with a change of train
> (New Jersey Transit, then SEPTA), taking 3 hours or more depending on
> the connection. (These trains would have less comfortable seats and
> no refreshments. I don't know if you have to go into the station at
> Trenton to buy another ticket.)
>
> From DC you have the two Amtrak choices, taking about 1 hour 35 minutes
> for the Acela Express or 2 hours by Regional train.

On 9 Feb, 17:55, Ed.Toro... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 10:11 am, max11 <eagles1... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ottawa is definitely a larger city with more going on thanQuebec.
> > > You would have to tell us more of your interests for us to be able to
> > > really say if you should visit Ottawa orQuebec.
> > I'm 28yo, I like to visit cities, walking on the streets (even if I
> > know spaces are bigger than European cities,so it's harder) to know
> > places, to breath the place air: I tkink this kind of approach takes
> > at least one week for each city. I like sometimes to visit museums,
> > but not many in few days and they are often so bigger that they take
> > at least one day, and I become bored because I need time to enjoy
> > them.
> > I like to see monuments, big architectures, big squares and the city
> > atmospheare.
>
> Out of the four cities Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, I think you
> will like Montreal the best. I find it's interesting to walk the
> streets in Montreal in any direction. There is a huge variety of
> architecture and the city is very lively.
>
> I would still recommend Ottawa over Quebec, because you can walk along
> the Rideau Canal and also along the Ottawa River. The Parliament
> buildings are fairly monumental--better than the Quebec National
> Assembly I think. There are also monuments like the Tomb of the
> Unknown Soldier. Because Ottawa is the capital of Canada, there are
> many public institutions and some monuments (Canada is not a really
> monument-crazy place).

Thank you, so I will go to Niagara from Toronto, and I will decide how
go to Philadelphya depending on the flight fares from Chicago to there
or DC.

Any advice on my plane in the other post?
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:31 am
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Mark Brader:
> > I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> > (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> > (Memorial Day). ...

"Max":
> What kind of holiday are these?

Mostly, a day off work in the spring. Memorial Day is also a day for
remembrance of military people killed in action.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:31 am
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Mark Brader wrote:

> Mark Brader:
> > > I'll just point out that Monday, May 19, will be a holiday in Canada
> > > (Victoria Day) while the next Monday, May 26, will be a holiday in the US
> > > (Memorial Day). ...
>
> "Max":
> > What kind of holiday are these?
>
> Mostly, a day off work in the spring. Memorial Day is also a day for
> remembrance of military people killed in action.

When I was a kid it was Victoria Day or, more commonly, Firecracker Day. These
days it is more commonly referred to as the May 2-4 weekend, the weekend that
people go away camping or to the cottage, or stay home and drink cases of beer.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:34 am
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Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a border
fee because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats why
most do not allow it Check before you get caught

Keith Willshaw wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:fokgu70jb4@news3.newsguy.com...
>> Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>> "Mark Brader" <msb.DeleteThis@vex.net> wrote in message
>>> news:13qq0d2elrq5s82@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> J. Clarke:
>>>>> To be perfectly honest, this is one time when it seems to me to
>>>>> make
>>>>> sense to just rent a car in Boston and drive to Quebec. The
>>>>> travel
>>>>> time's about the same as flying and the cost including gas for a
>>>>> one
>>>>> way rental is about the same as the air fare and there's some
>>>>> "picturesque" country in between.
>>>> I haven't tried it, but it might not be possible to rent one-way
>>>> from
>>>> the US to Canada these days.
>>> Even if you can there's probably a hefty dropoff fee.
>> Alamo is showing 120.88 total for one day pick up in Boston, drop off
>> in Quebec. No mention of a dropoff fee. This is less than half the
>> air fare.
>>
>
> Thats a very good deal.
>
> Keith
>
>
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:22 am
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"Smiles" <smile_inspector.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a border fee
> because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats why most
> do not allow it Check before you get caught

Hertz allows it. I've done it many times.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:35 am
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"Smiles" <smile_inspector.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> schrieb

> Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a border
> fee because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats why
> most do not allow it Check before you get caught

Since when is that?
October 6, 2001 I rented a car in Toronto, from Alamo, which had Florida
license plates.

Jochen from Germany
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:35 am
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Jochen Kriegerowski wrote:

>
>
> Since when is that?
> October 6, 2001 I rented a car in Toronto, from Alamo, which had Florida
> license plates.

All U-Haul trucks have Arizona plates.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:22 pm
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Smiles wrote:
> Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a
> border
> fee because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats
> why most do not allow it Check before you get caught

Probably worth checking, but returning a rental is not the same as
importing a vehicle and selling or abandoning it because ownership
does not change hands at any point. It was Alamo's car when you
rented it and it's still Alamo's car when you drop it off.

Now, turns out that (at least according to National) there's a gotcha.
Apparently for some reason known only to the Canadian legislature, a
Canadian citizen can't drive across the US-Canada border in a
US-registered rental car, but can in a Canadian-registered rental car.

> Keith Willshaw wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:fokgu70jb4@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>> "Mark Brader" <msb.RemoveThis@vex.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:13qq0d2elrq5s82@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> J. Clarke:
>>>>>> To be perfectly honest, this is one time when it seems to me to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> sense to just rent a car in Boston and drive to Quebec. The
>>>>>> travel
>>>>>> time's about the same as flying and the cost including gas for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> way rental is about the same as the air fare and there's some
>>>>>> "picturesque" country in between.
>>>>> I haven't tried it, but it might not be possible to rent one-way
>>>>> from
>>>>> the US to Canada these days.
>>>> Even if you can there's probably a hefty dropoff fee.
>>> Alamo is showing 120.88 total for one day pick up in Boston, drop
>>> off in Quebec. No mention of a dropoff fee. This is less than
>>> half the air fare.
>>>
>>
>> Thats a very good deal.
>>
>> Keith

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(Msg. 42) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:29 pm
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On 2/12/08 7:03 AM, in article foscgh$3rk$03$1@news.t-online.com, "Jochen
Kriegerowski" <joinvalid.DeleteThis@smtp.ru> wrote:

> "Smiles" <smile_inspector.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> schrieb
>
>> Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a border
>> fee because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats why
>> most do not allow it Check before you get caught
>
> Since when is that?
> October 6, 2001 I rented a car in Toronto, from Alamo, which had Florida
> license plates.
>
> Jochen from Germany

A Canadian Resident can not drive a car in Canada with American licence
plates. This is a Customs regulation. It is because automobiles are
generally cheaper (until recently) in the US. It is designed to stop
Canadians from buying, licencing and insuring cars in the states and then
bringing them home and driving them regularly. A resident can bring in a car
legally as long as he/she pays duty and taxes at the border.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:29 pm
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"Smiles" <smile_inspector RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alamo normally does not have a drop off fee but they may have a border fee
> because you can not leave a US car in Canada and vis versa thats why most
> do not allow it Check before you get caught
>

They say not, I checked.

Keith
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:29 pm
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MI wrote:

>
>
> A Canadian Resident can not drive a car in Canada with American licence
> plates. This is a Customs regulation. It is because automobiles are
> generally cheaper (until recently) in the US. It is designed to stop
> Canadians from buying, licencing and insuring cars in the states and then
> bringing them home and driving them regularly. A resident can bring in a car
> legally as long as he/she pays duty and taxes at the border.

That is contrary to what I was taught about cabotage and commercial vehicles.
American trucks are allowed to bring loads into Canada, to take loads out of
Canada and to operate point to point as long as they were not carrying a load ,
but could operate point to point if the driver was Canadian.
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:44 pm
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On 2/12/08 12:02 PM, in article 47B1FB47.BDD27EC7 RemoveThis @sympatico.ca, "Dave Smith"
<adavid.smith RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote:

> MI wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> A Canadian Resident can not drive a car in Canada with American licence
>> plates. This is a Customs regulation. It is because automobiles are
>> generally cheaper (until recently) in the US. It is designed to stop
>> Canadians from buying, licencing and insuring cars in the states and then
>> bringing them home and driving them regularly. A resident can bring in a car
>> legally as long as he/she pays duty and taxes at the border.
>
> That is contrary to what I was taught about cabotage and commercial vehicles.
> American trucks are allowed to bring loads into Canada, to take loads out of
> Canada and to operate point to point as long as they were not carrying a load
> ,
> but could operate point to point if the driver was Canadian.
>
>
That is quite different than a passenger vehicle. American truckers and
Canadian truckers cross the border daily and return home. Their cargo is all
manifested and goes through customs but they don't own it. It strictly being
shipped.

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