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Mister B

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:04 am
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On Feb 14, 5:37 pm, Martin <m....DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:21:48 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
>
> <dr....DeleteThis@rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote:
> >However I believe that when my father had to report a theft he went to
> >the carabinieri because they are closer to home. Also our old
> >housewarden did the same, but he was a former carabiniere ! Possibly I'd
> >ask the advice of our neighbour which also was a former carabiniere, and
> >is still related with a "club" of them Smile
>
> When I had a hire car broken into in Bagni di Tivoli, I made a formal report at
> the local carabinieri office. The officer spoke fluent English and was very
> efficient. I was very impressed.

Are you sure he was Italian (I ask that as a confirmed Italophile and
frequent diner at Vino e Cucina Smile?

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:06 am
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On Feb 14, 2:02 pm, Giovanni Drogo <dr... RemoveThis @rn.bastiani.ta.invalid>
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> > 116 - A.C.I. (Italian Automobile Club) road assistance.
> > 117 - Guardia di Finanza (If you have a sudden emergency Tax problem ?)
>
> Well, if some shopkeeper does not give you the proper fiscal receipt,
> you can notify the Guardia di Finanza that way (seriously)

Still, I don't suppose they're inundated with calls from people
desperate to pay some tax Smile

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:18 am
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On Feb 14, 6:12 pm, Martin <m....DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:04:29 -0800 (PST), Mister B <jeremyrh.....DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
> >On Feb 14, 5:37 pm, Martin <m....DeleteThis@address.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:21:48 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
>
> >> <dr....DeleteThis@rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote:
> >> >However I believe that when my father had to report a theft he went to
> >> >the carabinieri because they are closer to home. Also our old
> >> >housewarden did the same, but he was a former carabiniere ! Possibly I'd
> >> >ask the advice of our neighbour which also was a former carabiniere, and
> >> >is still related with a "club" of them Smile
>
> >> When I had a hire car broken into in Bagni di Tivoli, I made a formal report at
> >> the local carabinieri office. The officer spoke fluent English and was very
> >> efficient. I was very impressed.
>
> >Are you sure he was Italian (I ask that as a confirmed Italophile and
> >frequent diner at Vino e Cucina Smile?
>
> He was definitely Italian.

How do you know? Did you see him drying his shoes with a hair-dryer?

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:42 am
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Olive Green wrote:

> European emergency number:112

In Italy 112 is for the Carabinieri, the most common emergency number is
113 which is actually the Police (yes, they're different Smile. While to
call an ambulance is 118.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:47 am
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> I guess I might as well mention that 999 was justified as being
> easiest to find in the dark since it was the last number on a British
> phone dial. However, I can't even recall with any certainty what a real
> dial looks like Smile
>
> James Silverton
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> E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

See here:
http://www.antiquetelephones.abdyantiques.co.uk/

I believe that 000 was adopted in Australia because you find the figures
next to the finger stop on the old dial phones - hence if you had to dial
emergency in the dark you could readily feel where the finger hole was.

Have a look also at http://www.antiquephones.co.nz/
New Zealand dial phones were different to those in Australia and Britain!

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:51 am
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"Giovanni Drogo" <drogo.TakeThisOut@rn.bastiani.ta.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Olive Green wrote:

<< In Italy 112 is for the Carabinieri, the most common emergency number is
113 which is actually the Police (yes, they're different Smile. While to
call an ambulance is 118.>>

Not forgeting:
115 - Fire Department
116 - A.C.I. (Italian Automobile Club) road assistance.
117 - Guardia di Finanza (If you have a sudden emergency Tax problem ?)
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:34 am
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Am Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:51:00 -0000 schrieb nightjar:

>> European emergency number:112
>> Tue 12/02/08 - Two thirds of the Belgians do not know what the
>> European emergency number is.

In Germany 112 is the emergency number for fire-fighters and ambulance.

Police is 110.

It actually goes back to the old times (until the 70ies) when you did have
phones with a dial. The 1 and 2 are the first numbers on the dial. You
could buy little locks for the phone, that would mechanically block
anything higher than 2.

A phone that was locked that way, could only receive incoming calls or call
the "112". Was very common in places like hotel rooms or rented holiday
flats or in general at any phone were stranges would have access to.

You could lock it so noone could run up a phone bill, but it would still be
available in emergency.

Regards,

Frank
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:17 am
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:42 am
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:48:46 GMT, john_kulp DeleteThis @hotmail.com
(John Kulp) wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:35 GMT, "James Silverton"
><not.jim.silverton DeleteThis @verizon.not> wrote:
>
>>"John Kulp" <john_kulp DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:47b35fdf.22001095@news20.forteinc.com...
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:01:00 +1100, Alan S <nothere DeleteThis @there.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:23:19 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan
>>>><mike DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>nightjar <cpb@ wrote:
>>>>>> "Olive Green" <michaelnewport DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e4f1af34-9339-4e23-b9ad-bbd0f787cd13@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> ...I dont suppose this works in the UK.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does, but 999 is much better known.
>>>>>
>>>>>A survey some time ago amongst young people in the UK
>>>>>revealed the fact
>>>>>that many thought that it was 911.
>>>>
>>>>If you ever travel down here you will find it's 000.
>>>
>>> Young people in the UK might be interested to know that the US
>>> 911
>>> number was a direct copy of the UK 999 one. I guess ours gets
>>> better
>>> publicity.
>>
>>Who's country is "ours" and how is 911 a copy of 999?
>
>Sorry I should have said the US. 911 came about as a result of a
>staff member of former Senator Ernest Gruening of Alaska having taken
>a trip to the UK and noticing it there in 1966. In the 1967-68
>timeframe, Senator Gruening was running for reelection and called to
>his Washington office from Juneau for a suggestion on a speech he had
>to give that night in Juneau. The staff member recommended
>establishing a 911 fire, police and emergency number taking the 9 from
>the British 999 number and the 11 from the 211 for time and weather at
>the time and the 411 information number which still exists.

Back in the days of dial phones I often felt the best choice
would have been 111. So much quicker to dial in an
emergency, and much simpler when all three digits are the
same.


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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:42 am
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:42:54 +1100, Alan S <nothere.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:


>>>>
>>>> Young people in the UK might be interested to know that the US
>>>> 911
>>>> number was a direct copy of the UK 999 one. I guess ours gets
>>>> better
>>>> publicity.
>>>
>>>Who's country is "ours" and how is 911 a copy of 999?
>>
>>Sorry I should have said the US. 911 came about as a result of a
>>staff member of former Senator Ernest Gruening of Alaska having taken
>>a trip to the UK and noticing it there in 1966. In the 1967-68
>>timeframe, Senator Gruening was running for reelection and called to
>>his Washington office from Juneau for a suggestion on a speech he had
>>to give that night in Juneau. The staff member recommended
>>establishing a 911 fire, police and emergency number taking the 9 from
>>the British 999 number and the 11 from the 211 for time and weather at
>>the time and the 411 information number which still exists.
>
>Back in the days of dial phones I often felt the best choice
>would have been 111. So much quicker to dial in an
>emergency, and much simpler when all three digits are the
>same.

That much thought was given to the 911 number. Probably should have
been but wasn't
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:42 am
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"Alan S" <nothere.RemoveThis@there.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:48:46 GMT, john_kulp.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
> (John Kulp) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:35 GMT, "James Silverton"
>><not.jim.silverton.RemoveThis@verizon.not> wrote:
>>
>>>"John Kulp" <john_kulp.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:47b35fdf.22001095@news20.forteinc.com...
>>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:01:00 +1100, Alan S <nothere.RemoveThis@there.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:23:19 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan
>>>>><mike.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>nightjar <cpb@ wrote:
>>>>>>> "Olive Green" <michaelnewport.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e4f1af34-9339-4e23-b9ad-bbd0f787cd13@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> ...I dont suppose this works in the UK.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does, but 999 is much better known.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A survey some time ago amongst young people in the UK
>>>>>>revealed the fact
>>>>>>that many thought that it was 911.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you ever travel down here you will find it's 000.
>>>>
>>>> Young people in the UK might be interested to know that the US
>>>> 911
>>>> number was a direct copy of the UK 999 one. I guess ours gets
>>>> better
>>>> publicity.
>>>
>>>Who's country is "ours" and how is 911 a copy of 999?
>>
>>Sorry I should have said the US. 911 came about as a result of a
>>staff member of former Senator Ernest Gruening of Alaska having taken
>>a trip to the UK and noticing it there in 1966. In the 1967-68
>>timeframe, Senator Gruening was running for reelection and called to
>>his Washington office from Juneau for a suggestion on a speech he had
>>to give that night in Juneau. The staff member recommended
>>establishing a 911 fire, police and emergency number taking the 9 from
>>the British 999 number and the 11 from the 211 for time and weather at
>>the time and the 411 information number which still exists.
>
> Back in the days of dial phones I often felt the best choice
> would have been 111. So much quicker to dial in an
> emergency, and much simpler when all three digits are the
> same.

999 was chosen because the 9 could be found by touch on a phone that might
have fallen to the floor, by reference to the finger stop. IIRC there was
also something in the way that uniselectors worked that made it a better
choice.

Colin Bignell
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:02 pm
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> << In Italy 112 is for the Carabinieri, the most common emergency number is
> 113 which is actually the Police (yes, they're different Smile. While to
> call an ambulance is 118.>>
>
> Not forgeting:
> 115 - Fire Department
> 116 - A.C.I. (Italian Automobile Club) road assistance.
> 117 - Guardia di Finanza (If you have a sudden emergency Tax problem ?)

Well, if some shopkeeper does not give you the proper fiscal receipt,
you can notify the Guardia di Finanza that way (seriously)

114 is "telefono azzurro" (blue phone, to report child abuses). I
thought it was the coastal guard, but that is 1530 ...

.... for some reasons Ligury is full of signposts who advertise the
coastal guard phone number, insisting that a call is FREE


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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:38 pm
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Giovanni,

I'm just curious to know but, as a plumbed-in resident in Italy, what would
your first impulse be if you needed serious police assistance. Would you
call the carabinieri or the PS?


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>> << In Italy 112 is for the Carabinieri, the most common emergency number
>> is
>> 113 which is actually the Police (yes, they're different Smile. While to
>> call an ambulance is 118.>>
>>
>> Not forgeting:
>> 115 - Fire Department
>> 116 - A.C.I. (Italian Automobile Club) road assistance.
>> 117 - Guardia di Finanza (If you have a sudden emergency Tax problem ?)
>
> Well, if some shopkeeper does not give you the proper fiscal receipt, you
> can notify the Guardia di Finanza that way (seriously)
>
> 114 is "telefono azzurro" (blue phone, to report child abuses). I thought
> it was the coastal guard, but that is 1530 ...
>
> ... for some reasons Ligury is full of signposts who advertise the coastal
> guard phone number, insisting that a call is FREE
>
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:33 pm
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, PhredBear wrote:

> I'm just curious to know but, as a plumbed-in resident in Italy, what would
> your first impulse be if you needed serious police assistance. Would you
> call the carabinieri or the PS?

I guess it depends whether I'm in a city or in the country. In the city
I'd possibly call the police, in the country the Carabinieri. It also
depends whether I'd knew the direct number of the local commissariato
(police station) or caserma dei carabinieri ("barrack"). If I'd be in an
unknown place I'd possibly dial 113. I believe that will be somehow
better manned and coordinated with everything else. I have a vague idea
that 112 will just connect with the closest caserma dei carabinieri.

One should also say that on the other hand the Carabinieri, despite the
fact they are an armed force, are or were in general more popular than
the police and felt more independent and impartial (I am not saying that
they've lost versus the police, probably the police has gained and is
now felt as independent).

Also most little towns have a caserma dei carabinieri, while only rather
big places have a commissariato. In a large town like Milan there are
possibly more commissariati than carabinieri stations. At least I can
easily locate by heart at least 3-4 commissariati I've been or know
where they are (plus of course the Questura centrale) while only 1-2
carabinieri stations (plus 2-3 larger central barracks, but they are
more at nationwide level).

However I believe that when my father had to report a theft he went to
the carabinieri because they are closer to home. Also our old
housewarden did the same, but he was a former carabiniere ! Possibly I'd
ask the advice of our neighbour which also was a former carabiniere, and
is still related with a "club" of them Smile

On the other hand, I'd expect a commissariato to be always open at least
during office hours. The ones I've been to were open to the public when
I went there (the reason was to renew my passport, that's the typical
place where you go for a thing like that). While I've often seen small
carabinieri places to be closed. Maybe it's just a matter to ring and
they'll open the door. But I presume they are scarcely manned, and the
few people will mostly be patrolling around (they are rather visible in
this).


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