No need to come to Europe

Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
> UC <u.TakeThisOut@c.it> writes:
>
>> ...at the end, we've the usual city downtowns: H&M, FootLocker,
>> Calzedonia, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.
>
> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)

Starbucks in Vienna are full of Americans, and Vienna is a world famous
city for typical viennese-style coffeehouses. Just as an example.

ciao, U.
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UC <u.DeleteThis@c.it> writes:

>Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:

>> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
>> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)

>Starbucks in Vienna are full of Americans, and Vienna is a world famous
>city for typical viennese-style coffeehouses. Just as an example.

That's not the same as going there /to/ visit those places.

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:35:04 +0100, UC <u.RemoveThis@c.it> wrote:

>Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
>> UC <u.RemoveThis@c.it> writes:
>>
>>> ...at the end, we've the usual city downtowns: H&M, FootLocker,
>>> Calzedonia, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.
>>
>> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
>> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)
>
>Starbucks in Vienna are full of Americans, and Vienna is a world famous
>city for typical viennese-style coffeehouses. Just as an example.

You're doubtlessly correct.

But I've been to Vienna a few times and I've never visited, nor can I
remember seeing, a Starbucks. If I did see one, it would get the same
dismissive sneer I give them here in the US.

- TR
- we're not all programmed drones. It just seems that way.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:35:04 +0100, UC <u.RemoveThis@c.it> wrote:

>Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
>> UC <u.RemoveThis@c.it> writes:
>>
>>> ...at the end, we've the usual city downtowns: H&M, FootLocker,
>>> Calzedonia, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.
>>
>> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
>> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)
>
>Starbucks in Vienna are full of Americans, and Vienna is a world famous
>city for typical viennese-style coffeehouses. Just as an example.

Most McDonalds arefilled with local people. Certainly the
McDonalds near the CEngtral Station in Stockholm was full of
Wedes wehn I was there. The only fast food place in Paris I saw
that had a lot of Americans was the McDonalds on the Champs
Elysee, and evn gtht one wasn't all Americans.

In fact, these American franchisees wouldn't survive at all if it
wren't for locals.

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:56:46 -0800, VainGlorious
<enoid801DUMP.TakeThisOut@THIScomcast.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:35:04 +0100, UC <u.TakeThisOut@c.it> wrote:
>
>>Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
>>> UC <u.TakeThisOut@c.it> writes:
>>>
>>>> ...at the end, we've the usual city downtowns: H&M, FootLocker,
>>>> Calzedonia, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.
>>>
>>> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
>>> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)
>>
>>Starbucks in Vienna are full of Americans, and Vienna is a world famous
>>city for typical viennese-style coffeehouses. Just as an example.
>
>You're doubtlessly correct.
>
>But I've been to Vienna a few times and I've never visited, nor can I
>remember seeing, a Starbucks. If I did see one, it would get the same
>dismissive sneer I give them here in the US. \

Even, I presume, if it were full fo Viennese,

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> - we're not all programmed drones. It just seems that way.

I know. By the way, the meaning of the post wasn't
yet-another-Europe-vs-America rant, but just a consideration about the
fact that many of European's downtowns are *really* starting to look all
the same thanks to the unrestrainable spread of multinational brands.

ciao, U.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:28:37 +0100, Martin <me DeleteThis @address.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:45:13 -0800 (PST), Iceman <oneofcold DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 20, 5:11 pm, Paul Dwerryhouse <paul+use...@dwerryhouse.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>> UC <u... DeleteThis @c.it> writes:
>>> >...at the end, we've the usual city downtowns: H&M, FootLocker,
>>> >Calzedonia, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.
>>>
>>> Who goes travelling to visit those places? (Aside, of course, from the moron
>>> whose goal is to visit every Starbucks on the planet...)
>>
>>
>>You must have missed the Cathy and Bill show.
>
>They are more spag bol people than Starbucks.
>
>It's odd that we still haven't seen their holiday photos, or perhaps not.
>
>A few more weeks they will be back with plans for another virtual holiday to see
>long lost relatives, who they will forget to mention when they report back here
>after their virtual trips.


Did they ever post a trip report?
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:47 +0100, Martin <me RemoveThis @address.invalid> wrote:

>>
>>
>> Did they ever post a trip report?
>
>They post one after each holiday, neither were very convincing....


I must have missed them - or kill-filed them by then.


>... Especially when
>I twigged that the hotels they stayed in were the first google hit for the town.

Really? That was very amateurish of them. Or perhaps their trip
research really did consist of booking the first hotel at the top of
each hit-list. Got to be better than sitting in a bus all day.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:15:41 +0100, Tim C. <tim.challenger.TakeThisOut@aon.at>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:47 +0100, Martin <me.TakeThisOut@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did they ever post a trip report?
>>
>>They post one after each holiday, neither were very convincing....
>
>
>I must have missed them - or kill-filed them by then.
>
>
>>... Especially when
>>I twigged that the hotels they stayed in were the first google hit for the town.
>
>Really? That was very amateurish of them. Or perhaps their trip
>research really did consist of booking the first hotel at the top of
>each hit-list. Got to be better than sitting in a bus all day.

Especially if it doesn't have a bathroom.


Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:38:41 +0100, Keith Anderson <keefy.DeleteThis@privacy.net>
wrote:

Got to be better than sitting in a bus all day.
>
>Especially if it doesn't have a bathroom.

"gee, Cathy hun, how do you say where's the bathroom in foreign?"
"They don't have bathrooms in Yurup, Bil"
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