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Since: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 657
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(Msg. 436) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:45:11 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing DeleteThis @freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to john_kulp DeleteThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
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>> You
>>can be sure the insurance companies are doing everything they can to
>>reduce costs, including immoral ones
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>yes, I know about claims adjusters but it still tends to be morer than
>you would spend yourself.
I don't know about that. How would I go about negotiating low rates
with all the healthcare providers myself? I can easily understand a
car repair but am a little out in left field understanding, say, a
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 437) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am
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Following up to john_kulp DeleteThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>>perhaps we have a different idea of what dumb means
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>Apparently, but tell me what was intelligent about this decision then.
I think it was the end of a process, with various considerations, at
which the wrong conclusion was probably reached, I dont characterise
that sort of process as dumb. Just mistaken.
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Mike
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 438) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 439) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am
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Following up to john_kulp RemoveThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>>yes, I know about claims adjusters but it still tends to be morer than
>>you would spend yourself.
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>I don't know about that. How would I go about negotiating low rates
>with all the healthcare providers myself? I can easily understand a
>car repair but am a little out in left field understanding, say, a
>heart bypass.
Well, yes, we cant stretch the parallel that far.
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Mike
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Since: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 440) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am
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John Kulp wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:22:38 +0000, Mike.......
> <mikerclothing RemoveThis @freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Following up to john_kulp RemoveThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
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>>>> whats amusing us is the way you look at it from whichever way makes
>>>> the US seem good to you.
>>> Well, be amused and then tell me the error of this analysis if you
>>> can. That's just your xenophobic interpretation, btw. It applies to
>>> every country and its currency equally. There is nothing unique to
>>> the US about it.
>> Ah, but there is. The US is far more patriotic than the UK. You wont
>> find Union flags outside private houses here. If you said "God bless
>> the UK" you would be carted off to see the shrink.
>
> Certainly not true in Scaninavia where you see more flags than you do
> here. So it's hardly just a US phenomena.
Do the Scandinavians sell proud-US-kit-like for $19.99 as well?
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Since: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 44
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(Msg. 441) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:03 am
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Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to S Viemeister <firstname.RemoveThis@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> I have a drainage ditch that needs clearing - it sounds perfect for you.....
>
> sometimes Scottish hillwaking can make you wonder if you are indeed
> sane, but then sometimes its elating, you probably cant have one
> without the other, I remember struggling through wooded waterlogged
> pathless land onto a steep exhausting and rather scary steep ascent
> where you found yourself viewing the landscape upside down between
> your legs, but then it was this
> "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/high001.htm"
>
Gorgeous!
> but you probably know that (what's the going rate for drain clearing?)
Homemade soup, homebaked bread, cheese, wine; your choice of tea or
coffee, with a selection of homebaked goodies; Highland Park.
And an absolutely unbeatable view from the livingroom window. >> Stay informed about: Why We Don't Want "Free" Medical Care |
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 442) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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Following up to S Viemeister <firstname.RemoveThis@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> Highland Park.
ohhhh!
>And an absolutely unbeatable view from the livingroom window.
I think you mentioned you have a good view <jealous>
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Mike
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Since: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 44
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(Msg. 443) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to S Viemeister <firstname DeleteThis @lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> And an absolutely unbeatable view from the livingroom window.
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> I think you mentioned you have a good view <jealous>
I'll see if we can manage to put up a few photos on a website somewhere
- meantime, here's one a friend took, from the top of our drive.
<http://fizzypop.v.servelocity.net/ian/nw_scot.htm>
The hedge in the foreground has been tidied up a bit since then.
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 444) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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Following up to S Viemeister <firstname RemoveThis @lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>- meantime, here's one a friend took, from the top of our drive.
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><http://fizzypop.v.servelocity.net/ian/nw_scot.htm>
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>The hedge in the foreground has been tidied up a bit since then.
thats a seriously good view. You must get to actuallty see those
perfect days you get once or twice a winter.
I like the caption "the aptly named Forcan ridge!
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Mike
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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 445) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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Following up to Mike....... <mikerclothing.RemoveThis@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>perhaps we have a different idea of what dumb means
>--
talking of dumb and people not knowing about Europe:-
"http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/is-europe-a-country-p1.php"
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Since: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 657
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(Msg. 446) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:00:39 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.TakeThisOut@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to john_kulp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
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>>A. we rarely have the opportunity to vote for specific programs here.
>>We vote for candidates that advocate all kinds of things at once
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>same everywhere.
>
>>D. Hillary is again proposing universal healthcare right now.
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>good!
Meaningless really. First, she would have to get elected which seems
pretty dubious at this stage and second, she has no power to legislate
anything, She would have to get Congress to do that and it didn't
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Since: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 657
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(Msg. 447) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:02:45 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.TakeThisOut@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to john_kulp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
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>>>no. Statistics are more honest than right wing newspaper editors (it
>>>should have been "Murdoch" above, no idea what an auroch is but my
>>>spellcheck liked it!
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>>I have no idea what one is either.
>
>I Googled it, its an extinct form of cattle, there must be a Murdoch
>joke there.
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Since: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 44
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(Msg. 448) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to S Viemeister <firstname DeleteThis @lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
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>> - meantime, here's one a friend took, from the top of our drive.
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>> <http://fizzypop.v.servelocity.net/ian/nw_scot.htm>
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>> The hedge in the foreground has been tidied up a bit since then.
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> thats a seriously good view. You must get to actually see those
> perfect days you get once or twice a winter.
What's magic about the view, is that it's constantly changing, as the
tides shift and the rain/snow/mist plays around on the hills.
> I like the caption "the aptly named Forcan ridge!
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Since: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 657
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(Msg. 449) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:11:27 +0100, UC <u.RemoveThis@c.it> wrote:
>John Kulp wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:22:38 +0000, Mike.......
>> <mikerclothing.RemoveThis@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> Following up to john_kulp.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> whats amusing us is the way you look at it from whichever way makes
>>>>> the US seem good to you.
>>>> Well, be amused and then tell me the error of this analysis if you
>>>> can. That's just your xenophobic interpretation, btw. It applies to
>>>> every country and its currency equally. There is nothing unique to
>>>> the US about it.
>>> Ah, but there is. The US is far more patriotic than the UK. You wont
>>> find Union flags outside private houses here. If you said "God bless
>>> the UK" you would be carted off to see the shrink.
>>
>> Certainly not true in Scaninavia where you see more flags than you do
>> here. So it's hardly just a US phenomena.
>
>Do the Scandinavians sell proud-US-kit-like for $19.99 as well?
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Since: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 657
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(Msg. 450) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:04:43 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.DeleteThis@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to john_kulp.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
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>>>perhaps we have a different idea of what dumb means
>>
>>Apparently, but tell me what was intelligent about this decision then.
>
>I think it was the end of a process, with various considerations, at
>which the wrong conclusion was probably reached, I dont characterise
>that sort of process as dumb. Just mistaken.
Sounds completely dumb to me. What possible problem could they have
with someone trying to treat themselves with their own money other
than some loss of power. I have had exactly the same kind of
situation here with the VA and they roundly encouraged me to do it.
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