Why We Don't Want "Free" Medical Care

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:36:18 +0100, Martin <me RemoveThis @address.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:04:24 +0100, Tim C. <tim.challenger RemoveThis @aon.at> wrote:
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>>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:36:27 +0000, Mike.......
>><mikerclothing RemoveThis @freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>Following up to Tim C. <tim.challenger RemoveThis @aon.at> wrote:
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>>>>>So do I, but that's no free healthcare. It's paid for by tons of
>>>>>taxes.
>>>>
>>>>Hence the '..."Free"...' in the subject line of your post. You put it
>>>>there,so just what did you mean by those quotation marks?
>>>
>>>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?
>>
>>There's one born every minute.
>
>and free thanks to the NHS!

"free" you mean.
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Tim C. <tim.challenger.TakeThisOut@aon.at> wrote:
> john_kulp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>>>>> And the whole point of posting the article was ....?
>>>> a. to show what is going on
>>> But we know that already.
>> If everyone knows it already, why did Campion call it a lie?
> Better ask him.

I plonked Kalb. It takes a lot for me to plonk someone, but once
done I never unplonk them. So even if Kolbe learns to spell my
name right I'm not going to respond.

I said quite enough to make the point to anyone with a normally
fuctioning brain. Arguing with autistic bigots like Kelp is a
waste of time.

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:43:24 +0100, Tim C. <tim.challenger.RemoveThis@aon.at>
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:04:08 GMT, john_kulp.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp)
>wrote:
>
>>>>>And the whole point of posting the article was ....?
>>>>
>>>>a. to show what is going on
>>>
>>>But we know that already.
>>
>>If everyone knows it already, why did Campion call it a lie?
>
>Better ask him.

I did. He nevers answers, much less give any proof of any lie.
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:17:56 +0000, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bogus.DeleteThis@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Tim C. <tim.challenger.DeleteThis@aon.at> wrote:
>> john_kulp.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>>>>>> And the whole point of posting the article was ....?
>>>>> a. to show what is going on
>>>> But we know that already.
>>> If everyone knows it already, why did Campion call it a lie?
>> Better ask him.
>
>I plonked Kalb. It takes a lot for me to plonk someone, but once
>done I never unplonk them. So even if Kolbe learns to spell my
>name right I'm not going to respond.
>
>I said quite enough to make the point to anyone with a normally
>fuctioning brain. Arguing with autistic bigots like Kelp is a
>waste of time.

So there's you so-called mindless answer. Not one word of proof to
refute anything the article said, of course. Just a juvenile that
doesn't like criticizm of anything he likes to believe in.
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:32:18 +0100, Tim C. <tim.challenger.DeleteThis@aon.at>
wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:18:32 GMT, john_kulp.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp)
>wrote:
>
>>So do I, but that's no free healthcare. It's paid for by tons of
>>taxes.
>
>Hence the '..."Free"...' in the subject line of your post. You put it
>there,so just what did you mean by those quotation marks?

That's it not free.
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:36:27 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.DeleteThis@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

>Following up to Tim C. <tim.challenger.DeleteThis@aon.at> wrote:
>
>>>So do I, but that's no free healthcare. It's paid for by tons of
>>>taxes.
>>
>>Hence the '..."Free"...' in the subject line of your post. You put it
>>there,so just what did you mean by those quotation marks?
>
>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?

I, of course, don't know what any particular person thinks, but I have
met lots of Europeans that put forth their healthcare systems as free,
which they're not. That's why I emphasized it that way.
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:36:18 +0100, Martin <me DeleteThis @address.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:04:24 +0100, Tim C. <tim.challenger DeleteThis @aon.at> wrote:
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>>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:36:27 +0000, Mike.......
>><mikerclothing DeleteThis @freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Following up to Tim C. <tim.challenger DeleteThis @aon.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>So do I, but that's no free healthcare. It's paid for by tons of
>>>>>taxes.
>>>>
>>>>Hence the '..."Free"...' in the subject line of your post. You put it
>>>>there,so just what did you mean by those quotation marks?
>>>
>>>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?
>>
>>There's one born every minute.
>
>and free thanks to the NHS!

Better than that in Scandinavia. There they pay you to have kids.
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Following up to john_kulp DeleteThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:

>>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?
>
>I, of course, don't know what any particular person thinks, but I have
>met lots of Europeans that put forth their healthcare systems as free,
>which they're not. That's why I emphasized it that way.

If you asked them where the money came from, they would say taxation.
Is it likely anybody other than some moron could believe the money was
spirited out of thin air? The idea we think "free" means other than
"free at point of use" and available according to need, rather than
ability to pay is a fantasy of the right. When we make public
transport *free* to the retired, we know its funded by the rest of us,
and so on.
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:44:02 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.RemoveThis@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:

>Following up to john_kulp.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>
>>>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?
>>
>>I, of course, don't know what any particular person thinks, but I have
>>met lots of Europeans that put forth their healthcare systems as free,
>>which they're not. That's why I emphasized it that way.
>
>If you asked them where the money came from, they would say taxation.
>Is it likely anybody other than some moron could believe the money was
>spirited out of thin air? The idea we think "free" means other than
>"free at point of use" and available according to need, rather than
>ability to pay is a fantasy of the right. When we make public
>transport *free* to the retired, we know its funded by the rest of us,
>and so on.

Then there are lots of morons out there, because I have had lots of
them mindlessly insist that their healthcare is free period. When I
pointed out what you describe above, I just got a lot of blank looks.
And Ms. Hirst didn't have it available when she needed it did she?
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Following up to john_kulp.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:

>Then there are lots of morons out there, because I have had lots of
>them mindlessly insist that their healthcare is free period. When I
>pointed out what you describe above, I just got a lot of blank looks.

you must keep company with real dopes then. Such people obviously
exist but anybody with brain cells knows there's no free lunch.

>And Ms. Hirst didn't have it available when she needed it did she?

I think we covered that already
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On the particular moment of Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:32:38 GMT in relation
to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy,
john_kulp RemoveThis @hotmail.com (John Kulp) put forth:

>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:36:27 +0000, Mike.......
><mikerclothing RemoveThis @freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Following up to Tim C. <tim.challenger RemoveThis @aon.at> wrote:
>>
>>>>So do I, but that's no free healthcare. It's paid for by tons of
>>>>taxes.
>>>
>>>Hence the '..."Free"...' in the subject line of your post. You put it
>>>there,so just what did you mean by those quotation marks?
>>
>>that he thought we didnt realise it was free at point of use only?
>
>I, of course, don't know what any particular person thinks, but I have
>met lots of Europeans that put forth their healthcare systems as free,
>which they're not. That's why I emphasized it that way.

"lots of Europeans"?

Just how many, and just how did the subject come up?
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Following up to Dusty Furtile Morrocan
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>>I, of course, don't know what any particular person thinks, but I have
>>met lots of Europeans that put forth their healthcare systems as free,
>>which they're not. That's why I emphasized it that way.
>
>"lots of Europeans"?
>
>Just how many, and just how did the subject come up?

and what did they mean by "free", and how was the question posed that
it wasn't "free"? I've known dim kids not realise that vandalising
something had to be fixed with their parents tax money, but I dont
know any adults who are not very aware that public expenditure = tax.
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On the particular moment of Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:40:36 +0000 in
relation to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy, Mike.......
<mikerclothing.TakeThisOut@freedomnames.co.uk> put forth:

>Following up to john_kulp.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
>
>>Then there are lots of morons out there, because I have had lots of
>>them mindlessly insist that their healthcare is free period. When I
>>pointed out what you describe above, I just got a lot of blank looks.
>
>you must keep company with real dopes then. Such people obviously
>exist but anybody with brain cells knows there's no free lunch.

They probably had blank looks for other reasons, but he simply assumed
Europeans to be dim.
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