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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:57 pm
Post subject: GPS for the caribbean
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:55 am
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Jimmy wrote:
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> Does anyone know if there are GPS tracking devices usable in the Caribbean?
>
> J.
GPS is the global positioning system, good anywhere in the world. They
are using it to track the speed of Antarctic glaciers, continental
drift, Himalayas uplift, and mid pacific ocean tsunami potential,
pottering around the caribbean should be no problem. You can buy chips
with local charts for anywhere on earth, normally good to within 30 feet
lateral and in the more sophisticated units, 10 feet vertical. Add the
options for cumulative logging and inertial deviance and they will give
you tide changes of <one foot and lateral of <two feet. On open water
you should get at least 6 differentials and usually 10 to 12.
Performance degrades significantly under forest canopies, near tall
buildings, during electrical storms and with short operation windows,
but should give you <1,200 foot accuracy within 30 seconds with as few
as three differentials. Most maps will be less accurate than your GPS
plot, so you have to set waypoints as often as feasible to establish
concordance with maps or charts.
There is a GPS treasure hunt game that assumes that the lateral
deviation is small enough that you can find clues by putting you within
a 6 foot radius of the cache. If you need more accuracy than that, you
have to apply to the US government for a special use permit.
Hope this helps
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:51 am
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Jeremy wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if there are GPS tracking devices usable in the
>> Caribbean?
>>
>> J.
>
> GPS is the global positioning system, good anywhere in the world. They
> are using it to track the speed of Antarctic glaciers, continental
> drift, Himalayas uplift, and mid pacific ocean tsunami potential,
> pottering around the Caribbean should be no problem. You can buy chips
> with local charts for anywhere on earth, normally good to within 30
> feet lateral and in the more sophisticated units, 10 feet vertical.
> Add the options for cumulative logging and inertial deviance and they
> will give you tide changes of <one foot and lateral of <two feet. On
> open water you should get at least 6 differentials and usually 10 to
> 12. Performance degrades significantly under forest canopies, near
> tall buildings, during electrical storms and with short operation
> windows, but should give you <1,200 foot accuracy within 30 seconds
> with as few as three differentials. Most maps will be less accurate
> than your GPS plot, so you have to set waypoints as often as feasible
> to establish concordance with maps or charts.
>
> There is a GPS treasure hunt game that assumes that the lateral
> deviation is small enough that you can find clues by putting you
> within a 6 foot radius of the cache. If you need more accuracy than
> that, you have to apply to the US government for a special use permit.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> JJ
Great explanation and thank you very much. I have just recently become
familiar with GPS in a small way while attempting to track a friend across a
distant area. I have been tracking with the Nextel Mobile Locator which
works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but only see the US for the most
part. I was wondering if there were any versions of this type of mapping SW
that covered Jamaica. I am sure that when I finally buy the hardware I will
be familiar with much of what is available. I also ordered Delorme Street
Atlas USA 2005 which I am pretty sure will not be any better than S&T.
Thanks
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:55 am
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Jimmy <JimmyCliff.DeleteThis@xemaps.com> wrote:
>I have been tracking with the Nextel Mobile Locator which
>works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but only see the US for the most
>part. I was wondering if there were any versions of this type of mapping SW
>that covered Jamaica. I am sure that when I finally buy the hardware I will
>be familiar with much of what is available. I also ordered Delorme Street
>Atlas USA 2005 which I am pretty sure will not be any better than S&T.
You can also convert any GPS-reported coordinates to normal lat+long,
so that any bog-standard atlas or map can be used. For Montserrat,
for example, there is a detailed local map which has some lat/long
points overlaid, so you can derive locations manually from that.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:34 pm
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Ken Tough wrote:
> Jimmy <JimmyCliff.TakeThisOut@xemaps.com> wrote:
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>> I have been tracking with the Nextel Mobile Locator which
>> works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but only see the US for
>> the most part. I was wondering if there were any versions of this
>> type of mapping SW that covered Jamaica. I am sure that when I
>> finally buy the hardware I will be familiar with much of what is
>> available. I also ordered Delorme Street Atlas USA 2005 which I am
>> pretty sure will not be any better than S&T.
>
> You can also convert any GPS-reported coordinates to normal lat+long,
> so that any bog-standard atlas or map can be used. For Montserrat,
> for example, there is a detailed local map which has some lat/long
> points overlaid, so you can derive locations manually from that.
Great. I am just getting familiar with GPS and can see there is a bit of a
learning circle involved.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:54 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:55 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:10 pm
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Robert J Carpenter wrote:
> Those wanting maps for GPS for "other" parts of the globe might
> consider FUGAWI. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fugawi.com/" target="_blank">http://www.fugawi.com/</a> It allows you to calibrate
> any scanned map to use w/ GPS. IIRC it used to be something of a hobby
> venture but I find they now want MONEY.]
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> The "Everything You Might Ever Want to Know About GPS" site
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://gpsinformation.net/" target="_blank">http://gpsinformation.net/</a> will overload you with info and reviews of
> products. I consider it to be accurate.
>
> bob
Great and thanks for the resource. Now all I have to do is remember that
all I want is to look at a map once in awhile and not to spend thousands in
all the excitement  I would like to find some maps that I can view of the
Caribbean like the software that came with MS S&T. Do you know if there are
any Caribbean versions of current mapware solutions?
Thanks
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:55 pm
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"Jimmy" <JimmyClifff RemoveThis @xemaps.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to find some maps that I can view of the
> Caribbean like the software that came with MS S&T. Do you know if
there are
> any Caribbean versions of current mapware solutions?
My guess is that the market is considered to be too small for a
commercial product.
My suggestion would be to buy paper maps and scan them. Then use
Fugawi or something similar if you want them to be coupled to a GPS.
There are a number of map store which stock foreign maps. There are
excellent IGN maps of the French islands - Martinique, Guadeloupe, and
all of St Martin/Maarten. These are available in 100,000:1 and
25,000:1 scales. The British have produced good maps for some of the
(ex-) British islands, but they may be hard to find off-island.
Do a Google search for maps or map stores. I turned up the Jamaica
National Land Agency this way.
AS a hint, I'd try for stores in the UK for maps of the Caribbean
Commonwealth countries. It's pretty easy to order from the UK with a
credit card. I've bought a computer street map of Europe that way.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:55 pm
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Robert J Carpenter wrote:
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> "J
> There are a number of map store which stock foreign maps. There are
> excellent IGN maps of the French islands - Martinique, Guadeloupe, and
> all of St Martin/Maarten. These are available in 100,000:1 and
> 25,000:1 scales. The British have produced good maps for some of the
> (ex-) British islands, but they may be hard to find off-island.
>
> Do a Google search for maps or map stores. I turned up the Jamaica
> National Land Agency this way.
>
>
<http://www.maptown.com/caribbeanmaps.html>
But you get great stuff from the chart stores, the sailors have the best
maps of the coasts
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:28 pm
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Jimmy, the Delorme SA 2005 is a pretty good program. I use it all the time
when traveling in the 50 United States. The GPS receiver works well when
placed on the dashboard and plugged into my laptop. There are a few roads
that haven't been updated for a couple of years that I frequent but their
route planning software will still get you there. While the GPS unit will,
the mapping program won't work outside the US at this time.
They also have a program called XMaps but I don't know how well their GPS
unit interfaces with the XMaps program.
"Jimmy" <JimmyCliff.RemoveThis@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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> Jeremy wrote:
>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there are GPS tracking devices usable in the
>>> Caribbean?
>>>
>>> J.
>>
>> GPS is the global positioning system, good anywhere in the world. They
>> are using it to track the speed of Antarctic glaciers, continental
>> drift, Himalayas uplift, and mid pacific ocean tsunami potential,
>> pottering around the Caribbean should be no problem. You can buy chips
>> with local charts for anywhere on earth, normally good to within 30
>> feet lateral and in the more sophisticated units, 10 feet vertical.
>> Add the options for cumulative logging and inertial deviance and they
>> will give you tide changes of <one foot and lateral of <two feet. On
>> open water you should get at least 6 differentials and usually 10 to
>> 12. Performance degrades significantly under forest canopies, near
>> tall buildings, during electrical storms and with short operation
>> windows, but should give you <1,200 foot accuracy within 30 seconds
>> with as few as three differentials. Most maps will be less accurate
>> than your GPS plot, so you have to set waypoints as often as feasible
>> to establish concordance with maps or charts.
>>
>> There is a GPS treasure hunt game that assumes that the lateral
>> deviation is small enough that you can find clues by putting you
>> within a 6 foot radius of the cache. If you need more accuracy than
>> that, you have to apply to the US government for a special use permit.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> JJ
>
> Great explanation and thank you very much. I have just recently become
> familiar with GPS in a small way while attempting to track a friend across
> a distant area. I have been tracking with the Nextel Mobile Locator which
> works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but only see the US for the
> most part. I was wondering if there were any versions of this type of
> mapping SW that covered Jamaica. I am sure that when I finally buy the
> hardware I will be familiar with much of what is available. I also ordered
> Delorme Street Atlas USA 2005 which I am pretty sure will not be any
> better than S&T.
>
> Thanks
>
> J.
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:55 pm
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In article <nvi4e.120$B12.38@trnddc09>,
"Robert J Carpenter" <rcarpen1.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Jimmy" <JimmyClifff.DeleteThis@xemaps.com> wrote in message
> news:25OdnSxZB7rIMMzfRVn-qA@comcast.com...
> > I would like to find some maps that I can view of the
> > Caribbean like the software that came with MS S&T. Do you know if
> there are
> > any Caribbean versions of current mapware solutions?
>
> My guess is that the market is considered to be too small for a
> commercial product.
They are available in electronic versions, but because of the limited
public, they ARE ex$pen$ive. And as another said, the GPS is likely to
be far more accurate than some of the source maps, some of which are
several miles off.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:35 am
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garciyalater.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> i just hope he is tracking someone who knows he is tracking
> them.....and not an ex girlfriend on a carribean vacation with her new
> man......
>
>
> Chuck
I am actually tracking a teen from here in New England who has moved to
Daytona on her own. I supply her with a Nextel cell phone with a limited
ability to track. This has gotten me more interested in the more effective
GPS devices but I doubt I could get her to carry anything around. She leaves
her cell when she is out and about and she does not know she is being looked
after. I can't find out much about the Mobile Locator feature of Nextel so I
thought of other ways. Either way it all depends on her holding a
transmitter I guess.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:43 am
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LVTravel wrote:
> Jimmy, the Delorme SA 2005 is a pretty good program. I use it all
> the time when traveling in the 50 United States. The GPS receiver
> works well when placed on the dashboard and plugged into my laptop. There
> are a few roads that haven't been updated for a couple of years
> that I frequent but their route planning software will still get you
> there. While the GPS unit will, the mapping program won't work
> outside the US at this time.
> They also have a program called XMaps but I don't know how well their
> GPS unit interfaces with the XMaps program.
I am glad to get a review from someone that likes the Delorme SW. I am
curious as to how it compares to MS S&T which I just bought. I will find out
in a few days when it arrives. Now I have to select the GPS hardware. Most
likely I will be starting out with the GPS 18 Deluxe which is economical
compared to any of the others I have found. I am still new and it anyone has
any suggestions about any other device I will be happy to consider.
Thanks
J.
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> "Jimmy" <JimmyCliff RemoveThis @xemaps.com> wrote in message
> news:IdadnSI7ffCQk8zfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> Jeremy wrote:
>>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there are GPS tracking devices usable in the
>>>> Caribbean?
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>
>>> GPS is the global positioning system, good anywhere in the world.
>>> They are using it to track the speed of Antarctic glaciers,
>>> continental drift, Himalayas uplift, and mid pacific ocean tsunami
>>> potential, pottering around the Caribbean should be no problem. You
>>> can buy chips with local charts for anywhere on earth, normally
>>> good to within 30 feet lateral and in the more sophisticated units,
>>> 10 feet vertical. Add the options for cumulative logging and
>>> inertial deviance and they will give you tide changes of <one foot
>>> and lateral of <two feet. On open water you should get at least 6
>>> differentials and usually 10 to 12. Performance degrades significantly
>>> under forest canopies, near
>>> tall buildings, during electrical storms and with short operation
>>> windows, but should give you <1,200 foot accuracy within 30 seconds
>>> with as few as three differentials. Most maps will be less accurate
>>> than your GPS plot, so you have to set waypoints as often as
>>> feasible to establish concordance with maps or charts.
>>>
>>> There is a GPS treasure hunt game that assumes that the lateral
>>> deviation is small enough that you can find clues by putting you
>>> within a 6 foot radius of the cache. If you need more accuracy than
>>> that, you have to apply to the US government for a special use
>>> permit. Hope this helps
>>>
>>> JJ
>>
>> Great explanation and thank you very much. I have just recently
>> become familiar with GPS in a small way while attempting to track a
>> friend across a distant area. I have been tracking with the Nextel
>> Mobile Locator which works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but
>> only see the US for the most part. I was wondering if there were any
>> versions of this type of mapping SW that covered Jamaica. I am sure
>> that when I finally buy the hardware I will be familiar with much of
>> what is available. I also ordered Delorme Street Atlas USA 2005
>> which I am pretty sure will not be any better than S&T.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:59 am
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Ken Tough wrote:
> Jimmy <JimmyCliff.TakeThisOut@xemaps.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been tracking with the Nextel Mobile Locator which
>> works just ok. I just purchased MS S&T 2005 but only see the US for
>> the most part. I was wondering if there were any versions of this
>> type of mapping SW that covered Jamaica. I am sure that when I
>> finally buy the hardware I will be familiar with much of what is
>> available. I also ordered Delorme Street Atlas USA 2005 which I am
>> pretty sure will not be any better than S&T.
>
> You can also convert any GPS-reported coordinates to normal lat+long,
> so that any bog-standard atlas or map can be used. For Montserrat,
> for example, there is a detailed local map which has some lat/long
> points overlaid, so you can derive locations manually from that.
Thanks Ken.
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