Germany

Thanks for the info, its gives me a start. I am a WWII
history buff and would like to see sites related to this subject. Also, do
you suggest starting at one city such as Frankfurt and traveling from there
to the various regions? What are the distances to the cities such as Munich
and Berlin from Frankfurt?

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 > Joe <Groveman.DeleteThis@prodigy.net> wrote:
  > > I am planning a trip to Germany this summer and would like some info
about
  > > things to see and places to stay.
 >
 > This is pretty vague. What are your likes and dislikes? I've spent some
 > time in Germany, and am planning to go again. These are some of the
highlights
 > of Germany for me.
 >
 > Munich: This is what Americans think of when they think of Germany. It's
not
 > it's the capital of one state. But it is a fun city, with lots to do and
 > see. Worth 3 or 4 days.
 >
 > Berlin: If you have to choose between Munich and Berlin, choose Berlin.
This
 > is an exciting city, where history has happened. Great nightlife, great
 > museums, the Reichstag, the Brandenburg Gate, pieces of the wall, lots to
 > see.
 >
 > The Rhine: Romantic fairy-tale Germany meets wine maker meets castle
 > upon castle. My favorite castle is up the Mosel, Burg Eltz, but the
 > boat trip down the rhine, with vineyards on the shore, castle after
 > castle, and the Lorlei to pass, are wonderful.
 >
 > Buchenwald: Or Dachau. We did Buchenwald. A somber reminder that every
 > state has or should have limits. Reminder of a very sad time in Germany's
 > history. Yes, they did this, but remember that was a very long time ago
 > and Germany has changed. Remember, that's important, but put it int he
 > right place!
 >
 > The Alps: Ludwig's castles, wonderful views, painted houses, Baroque
churches
 > in fields, violin makers and woodworkers, it's all here. Don't miss it.
 > Oberammergau, GArmish, Fussen. See the outside of Neuschwanstein, but if
you
 > only have time for one of Ludwig's castles, do Linderhof!
 >
 > Goslar: Nestled in the Hartz mountain, this medieval town is the real
thing.
 > It was a medical center during WW II and sustained very little damage.
During
 > the Holy Roman Empire Goslar was the center of the world for a while.
Visit
 > the mine and learn about 1000 years of incredible history. Be awed by the
 > amount of art one little town can have.
 >
 > Does this help? I'm just getting started. What intruigues you?
 >
 >
 > --
 > Julie
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Julie, I went to your web page and found it very interesting and
informative. You do a lot of traveling and take great pics.
I have traveled to most of the US and Ireland, London and Paris via the
Eurostar. How did you find the exchange rate DM versus US?
Do they use the euro now?

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"Joe" <Groveman.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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 > Thanks for the info, its gives me a start. I am a WWII
 > history buff and would like to see sites related to this subject. Also, do
 > you suggest starting at one city such as Frankfurt and traveling from
there
 > to the various regions? What are the distances to the cities such as
Munich
 > and Berlin from Frankfurt?
 >
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 > "Juliana L Holm" <jholm.RemoveThis@osf1.gmu.edu> wrote in message
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  > > Joe <Groveman.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote:
   > > > I am planning a trip to Germany this summer and would like some info
 > about
   > > > things to see and places to stay.
  > >
  > > This is pretty vague. What are your likes and dislikes? I've spent
some
  > > time in Germany, and am planning to go again. These are some of the
 > highlights
  > > of Germany for me.
  > >
  > > Munich: This is what Americans think of when they think of Germany.
It's
 > not
  > > it's the capital of one state. But it is a fun city, with lots to do
and
  > > see. Worth 3 or 4 days.
  > >
  > > Berlin: If you have to choose between Munich and Berlin, choose Berlin.
 > This
  > > is an exciting city, where history has happened. Great nightlife, great
  > > museums, the Reichstag, the Brandenburg Gate, pieces of the wall, lots
to
  > > see.
  > >
  > > The Rhine: Romantic fairy-tale Germany meets wine maker meets castle
  > > upon castle. My favorite castle is up the Mosel, Burg Eltz, but the
  > > boat trip down the rhine, with vineyards on the shore, castle after
  > > castle, and the Lorlei to pass, are wonderful.
  > >
  > > Buchenwald: Or Dachau. We did Buchenwald. A somber reminder that every
  > > state has or should have limits. Reminder of a very sad time in
Germany's
  > > history. Yes, they did this, but remember that was a very long time ago
  > > and Germany has changed. Remember, that's important, but put it int he
  > > right place!
  > >
  > > The Alps: Ludwig's castles, wonderful views, painted houses, Baroque
 > churches
  > > in fields, violin makers and woodworkers, it's all here. Don't miss it.
  > > Oberammergau, GArmish, Fussen. See the outside of Neuschwanstein, but
if
 > you
  > > only have time for one of Ludwig's castles, do Linderhof!
  > >
  > > Goslar: Nestled in the Hartz mountain, this medieval town is the real
 > thing.
  > > It was a medical center during WW II and sustained very little damage.
 > During
  > > the Holy Roman Empire Goslar was the center of the world for a while.
 > Visit
  > > the mine and learn about 1000 years of incredible history. Be awed by
the
  > > amount of art one little town can have.
  > >
  > > Does this help? I'm just getting started. What intruigues you?
  > >
  > >
  > > --
  > > Julie
  > > **********
  > > Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
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Joe <Groveman.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote:
 > Thanks for the info, its gives me a start. I am a WWII
 > history buff and would like to see sites related to this subject. Also, do
 > you suggest starting at one city such as Frankfurt and traveling from there
 > to the various regions? What are the distances to the cities such as Munich
 > and Berlin from Frankfurt?

Well, then you definitely want to spend several days in Berlin, see the
checkpoint Charlie Museum, the site of the Wannsee Confernce and the church
(Help me someone, I cannot remember the name) which has been left in its
bombed out state up on Kurfurstendamm.


Also there is a new Jewish Museum/memorial. I have not seen it as it was not
yet complete when I was last in Berlin.

I recommend going into Poland and seeing Auschwitz and the Jewish quarter
there. You can do this on overnight trains from Berlin, taking the overnigh
train to Krakow, then a train to Osweicim, bus to the site, day at the site
(two sites, actually) and then the evening train back to Berlin. I say
you CAN do this this way, but I recommend you try to spend at least a night
in Krakow, as it is a fascinating city. Auschwitz gives you the chance to
see the camp as it was, chilling, and to walk through a cramatorium.

Buchenwald has an excellent museum, that puts some of this in context, but
is mostly a memorial. Not much in the way of remaining buildings or anything,
very hard to envision what was going on.

Eagles' Nest, in the mountains on the Austrian Border in Bavaria is another
think you might want to catch. This was Hitler's retreat. And of course,
Munich, since Hitler's rise started in those beer halls in Munich. (and, if
you drink beer, the beer is very good.)

If you get to the north, Hildesheim is an interesting city. Most of the Alstdt
is actually modern; it was destroyed in WW II and rebuilt as ugly cement
buildings, in the 70s they tore all that down and rebuilt the center as it
used to be, based on old photographs. But the area that used to be the Jewish
quarter is authentic and interesting. The Synagogue is gone; it was destroyed
during Krystylnacht.

Despite your interest, try to see some of modern Germany. Germans have had
to live with the legacy of what they did in the 30s and 40s and they are not
the same people. There are certainly exceptions, skinheads and the like,
but most Germans are working to be very different, and they encourage tolerance
and diversity.

Hope this helps,

Julie
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Juliana L Holm <jholm.RemoveThis@osf1.gmu.edu> wrote:

 > checkpoint Charlie Museum, the site of the Wannsee Confernce and the church
 > (Help me someone, I cannot remember the name) which has been left in its
 > bombed out state up on Kurfurstendamm.

I'm not hopeless. It's the Kaiser Wilhelm Gdanskkirche.

Check out my travel pages, some of this is there.

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Your info will be very helpfull when we get to Germany, Auschwitz would be
one of my stops, I see by the map that Berlin is close to thr eastern border
of Poland. I see what you mean by the present day germans not wanting to
revisit the past but go forward with today.
Did you encounter any problems with only speaking english as my german is
miniscul?
In Paris we found most people spoke some english.
How about the food, can you get any american style food in the restaurants?

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 >
 >
 > Joe <Groveman.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote:
  > > Thanks for the info, its gives me a start. I am a WWII
  > > history buff and would like to see sites related to this subject. Also,
do
  > > you suggest starting at one city such as Frankfurt and traveling from
there
  > > to the various regions? What are the distances to the cities such as
Munich
  > > and Berlin from Frankfurt?
 >
 > Well, then you definitely want to spend several days in Berlin, see the
 > checkpoint Charlie Museum, the site of the Wannsee Confernce and the
church
 > (Help me someone, I cannot remember the name) which has been left in its
 > bombed out state up on Kurfurstendamm.
 >
 >
 > Also there is a new Jewish Museum/memorial. I have not seen it as it was
not
 > yet complete when I was last in Berlin.
 >
 > I recommend going into Poland and seeing Auschwitz and the Jewish quarter
 > there. You can do this on overnight trains from Berlin, taking the
overnigh
 > train to Krakow, then a train to Osweicim, bus to the site, day at the
site
 > (two sites, actually) and then the evening train back to Berlin. I say
 > you CAN do this this way, but I recommend you try to spend at least a
night
 > in Krakow, as it is a fascinating city. Auschwitz gives you the chance to
 > see the camp as it was, chilling, and to walk through a cramatorium.
 >
 > Buchenwald has an excellent museum, that puts some of this in context, but
 > is mostly a memorial. Not much in the way of remaining buildings or
anything,
 > very hard to envision what was going on.
 >
 > Eagles' Nest, in the mountains on the Austrian Border in Bavaria is
another
 > think you might want to catch. This was Hitler's retreat. And of course,
 > Munich, since Hitler's rise started in those beer halls in Munich. (and,
if
 > you drink beer, the beer is very good.)
 >
 > If you get to the north, Hildesheim is an interesting city. Most of the
Alstdt
 > is actually modern; it was destroyed in WW II and rebuilt as ugly cement
 > buildings, in the 70s they tore all that down and rebuilt the center as it
 > used to be, based on old photographs. But the area that used to be the
Jewish
 > quarter is authentic and interesting. The Synagogue is gone; it was
destroyed
 > during Krystylnacht.
 >
 > Despite your interest, try to see some of modern Germany. Germans have
had
 > to live with the legacy of what they did in the 30s and 40s and they are
not
 > the same people. There are certainly exceptions, skinheads and the like,
 > but most Germans are working to be very different, and they encourage
tolerance
 > and diversity.
 >
 > Hope this helps,
 >
 > Julie
 > --
 > Julie
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Joe <Groveman DeleteThis @prodigy.net> wrote:
 > Your info will be very helpfull when we get to Germany, Auschwitz would be
 > one of my stops, I see by the map that Berlin is close to thr eastern border
 > of Poland. I see what you mean by the present day germans not wanting to
 > revisit the past but go forward with today.
 > Did you encounter any problems with only speaking english as my german is
 > miniscul?
 > In Paris we found most people spoke some english.
 > How about the food, can you get any american style food in the restaurants?

Actually the present day Germans are not against revisiting the past; they
carry it with them. Just don't judge them soley, or too heavily by it.
They are not the same people they were in the 30s and 40s.

In Munich and Berlin you will have no problem with not having English, and
most of the sites, including Auschwitz, have English Language tours. Some
places, particularly those in former EAst Germany (Wiemar) you will have
much less time at.

I don't know about American Food, as I try to eat local food when I travel.
The food in Germany is very good. I am a vegetarian, so my food preferences
will be different than yours.

Julie

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On 3 Mar 2004 14:18:09 GMT, Juliana L Holm <jholm.TakeThisOut@osf1.gmu.edu> wrote:

 >Juliana L Holm <jholm.TakeThisOut@osf1.gmu.edu> wrote:
 >
  >> checkpoint Charlie Museum, the site of the Wannsee Confernce and the church
  >> (Help me someone, I cannot remember the name) which has been left in its
  >> bombed out state up on Kurfurstendamm.
 >
 >I'm not hopeless. It's the Kaiser Wilhelm Gdanskkirche.

Sorry, you're a bit closer to hopeless than you think. It's
Gedachtniskirche. (with an umlaut over the a) "memorial church"

I spent quite a few hours hanging out on the steps when I lived there.
Great people-watching.

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"Joe" <Groveman.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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 > Julie, I went to your web page and found it very interesting and
 > informative. You do a lot of traveling and take great pics.
 > I have traveled to most of the US and Ireland, London and Paris via the
 > Eurostar. How did you find the exchange rate DM versus US?

At present the US dollar is worth about .81 Euro.

 > Do they use the euro now?

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