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Since: Mar 01, 2007 Posts: 23
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:04 pm
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Please help us find what we are looking for in a *new* (for us!)
relaxing Caribbean vacation destination. We have been going together
for 3 years now and have very different tastes and histories in terms
of prior winter vacationing.
"He" is 52 and has always been a St. Martin guy at heart with its
uncrowded natural beauty, low hassle factor, low crime, laid-back
ways, endless gourmet food & restaurants, easy getting around in a
rental car, etc. "He" tried South Florida and Aruba (one time each)
and hated both for their crowds, noise, traffic (in Florida), stark
commercialism and high costs. The Bahamas likewise hold some bad
memories.
"She" is 47 and comes from an all-inclusive "stay in one place and
like it" Cancun and Dominican Republic perspective most recently...
liking both for what they were... with mostly Northern European
vacations under her belt prior to that. No mobility need for her to
enjoy an island... and little need for culinary variety or true
gourmet food either! For her, it's simply plunk down and veg out with
a good book!
After a whirlwind Caribbean cruise and several quick mini-vacations,
we are both ready again for a truly relaxing Caribbean vacation... but
she doesn't *get" the mobility and French island things at all... and
he doesn't *get* the Mexican and DR "all-inclusive" things... feeling
captive and having worked (with very little fun or pleasure to
remember) in both of those locations in years past.
The only thing we can agree on is that we want clean, uncrowded white
sand beaches and a very low crime location. The multi-island cruise
taught us quite well to avoid those islands and places where crime is
currently a bit out of control.
It seems hopeless right now. Especially on our relatively tight
budget for this year. Other than separate vacations... any ideas?
TIA,
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Since: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:29 pm
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Try the island of Nevis. Upscale and low stress with no Parrot Heads.
Truly the Caribbean the way it used to be before crass commercialism.
See my website on Nevis for more photos.
www.nevis1.com
Great island but a bit tricky to get to. Hope this helps.
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:04:47 GMT, Chuck & Chris
<ChasKMneverspam.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Please help us find what we are looking for in a *new* (for us!)
>relaxing Caribbean vacation destination. We have been going together
>for 3 years now and have very different tastes and histories in terms
>of prior winter vacationing.
>
>"He" is 52 and has always been a St. Martin guy at heart with its
>uncrowded natural beauty, low hassle factor, low crime, laid-back
>ways, endless gourmet food & restaurants, easy getting around in a
>rental car, etc. "He" tried South Florida and Aruba (one time each)
>and hated both for their crowds, noise, traffic (in Florida), stark
>commercialism and high costs. The Bahamas likewise hold some bad
>memories.
>
>"She" is 47 and comes from an all-inclusive "stay in one place and
>like it" Cancun and Dominican Republic perspective most recently...
>liking both for what they were... with mostly Northern European
>vacations under her belt prior to that. No mobility need for her to
>enjoy an island... and little need for culinary variety or true
>gourmet food either! For her, it's simply plunk down and veg out with
>a good book!
>
>After a whirlwind Caribbean cruise and several quick mini-vacations,
>we are both ready again for a truly relaxing Caribbean vacation... but
>she doesn't *get" the mobility and French island things at all... and
>he doesn't *get* the Mexican and DR "all-inclusive" things... feeling
>captive and having worked (with very little fun or pleasure to
>remember) in both of those locations in years past.
>
>The only thing we can agree on is that we want clean, uncrowded white
>sand beaches and a very low crime location. The multi-island cruise
>taught us quite well to avoid those islands and places where crime is
>currently a bit out of control.
>
>It seems hopeless right now. Especially on our relatively tight
>budget for this year. Other than separate vacations... any ideas?
>
>TIA,
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:49 pm
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:01:04 GMT, Brian K <brian1951.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>
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>You didn't say what time of year. With a tight budget I am assuming
>Summer? Mexico still gives the best bang for the US Buck. But instead
>of the overly crowded party-party spots maybe look at smaller locals.
>Playa del Carmen comes to mind. If you can avoid the cruise crowds
>downtown during the day, you should have the place to yourself in the
>evenings.
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>More isolated is Puerto Morales (just south of Cancun), and Tulum
>Beach. The latter is about an hour and a half ride from the airport.
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>Then for more isolation there's Isla Mujeres, North West of Cancun is
>reachable by ferry. To get "out of the box" of Isla you can do
>excursions to colonial town Merida and/or Chichen Itza. For the budget
>minded you might look into cabaņas as opposed to hotels. Some provide
>all the amenities of an AI, while others are very basic. The most basic
>(no electricity) go for as little as $40.00 a night. Tulum Beach has a
>very swank Cabaņa next to the archaeological site including free
>admission to the ruins of Tulum. During the summer it is very
>reasonable. The property includes a pool, AC units with electricity and
>a restaurant specializing in local food.
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>Dominica has some great beaches over 100 natural waterfalls, a
>semi-active caldera, and scattered about the island are geothermal pools
>that can be used for bathing. In the late Spring and Summer it can be
>very reasonable. You can be as isolated or as "walking distance to town"
>as you want to be.
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>To my knowledge there are no direct flights from the US. Your most
>expensive cost will probably be your air fare. Still, Dominica (not
>Dominican Republic) is a beautiful island worth visiting.
Thanks very much Brian. You may be on the right track with the Mayan
Riviera. That keeps coming up over and over again as a logical top
choice. I just need to get over associating that area with my past
work and all of those endless travel and work-related hassles. Don't
know about others, but it is very hard for me to think "fun and
relaxation" about a place that I only remember for its hassles and
difficulties. I should also add that we have both already done the
Mayan ruins thing... her while on those past Cancun vacations and me
during occasional breaks in my work assignments.
I will have to do some serious research on Dominica. Can't say at
this point that I know very much about that location.
BTW... this vacation is planned for late March or April 2007. I also
regret giving the impression that this needs to be a bargain basement
vacation. One couple's "relatively tight budget" can be another
person's extravagant budget! Let's just say that we are looking for a
"mid-range" cost charter vacation for two leaving out of Boston's
Logan Airport... not the most expensive package, but not the cheapest
either.
The point on which we need the most help is that seeming contradiction
between "him" wanting an island (or resort area) that provides a
little fun, variety, mobility and true gourmet food... while "she"
just wants peace, quiet, solitude and privacy. That's the big
challenge. What's a new Caribbean place (for us)... definitely with
low crime... where we can somehow manage to satisfy us both?
Thanks again,
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:17 pm
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> The point on which we need the most help is that seeming contradiction
> between "him" wanting an island (or resort area) that provides a
> little fun, variety, mobility and true gourmet food... while "she"
> just wants peace, quiet, solitude and privacy. That's the big
> challenge. What's a new Caribbean place (for us)... definitely with
> low crime... where we can somehow manage to satisfy us both?
>
Eastwinds St Lucia - its all-inclusive with gourmet food and wine; small and
peaceful, but with a 'dine around' option, and the island is very beautiful.
Or Tobago - beautiful island; fairly quiet (tho I fear it has a Hilton now).
Have you ruled out Barbados - you may have to search around a bit for peace
and quiet but I'm sure there are places that fit that bill, and the island
has a lot to offer in the way of fun, variety etc.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:26 pm
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:17:10 -0000, "Rita Daggett"
<r.m.daggett DeleteThis @nospam.open.ac.uk> wrote:
>Eastwinds St Lucia - its all-inclusive with gourmet food and wine; small and
>peaceful, but with a 'dine around' option, and the island is very beautiful.
>Or Tobago - beautiful island; fairly quiet (tho I fear it has a Hilton now).
>Have you ruled out Barbados - you may have to search around a bit for peace
>and quiet but I'm sure there are places that fit that bill, and the island
>has a lot to offer in the way of fun, variety etc.
Thanks for the tips. We did like Barbados a lot when we stopped there
on our 2005 cruise. Sadly, we never actually got to see any of the
beaches in the brief time we had there. We were too busy doing the
standard tourist things, which were quite interesting. The people
were very nice there. It could fit the bill.
St. Lucia was not one of our favorite stops. It was in the midst of a
serious crime wave at the time... or so they told us... and we were
warned to be extremely careful. In view of that, it's probably not our
best choice even if the resort itself is quite fine.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:26 pm
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:35:35 -0500, "Mildred Savalier"
<itsdilly.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>Chuck
>Check out TNT vacations They charter out of Boston.
>My favorite is always Barbados No hassles very laid back and beautiful.
>St Lucia is also nice but much harder to get around.
Thanks Mildred - We know TNT very well... and GWV too. We were both
good customers of theirs long before we met.
See my previous comments on Barbados and St. Lucia. Barbados may work
for us if the price is right... but we'll pass on St. Lucia for now.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:26 pm
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:29:51 -0500, Nevis Island Tourism
<Tragik.RemoveThis@Magik.com> wrote:
>Try the island of Nevis. Upscale and low stress with no Parrot Heads.
>Truly the Caribbean the way it used to be before crass commercialism.
>See my website on Nevis for more photos.
>Great island but a bit tricky to get to. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the tip. We'll check out your website.
Funny that you should mention "the Caribbean the way it used to be..."
because that's really what we are BOTH seeking. Being over 50, I can
still remember St. Martin LONG before it went completely over the top
with over-development and over-crowding. Those were the good old
days. I'd personally do anything to capture that "sophisticated &
varied... yet still laid back & unhurried" kind of atmosphere again.
It was the very best!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:26 pm
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:24:01 -0500, "Mildred Savalier"
<itsdilly.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>There are pictures of Barbados on my webshots page.
>The beaches are too good to be true!
>Snorkeling with the turtles is a real treat and Surfing!
>Very hard to find surfing in the Caribbean.
>We stayed at the Savannah and the Amaryllis.
>Through TNT with real air. Try to avoid Miami airport
>direct connect if you can get it.
>GWV merged with Apple and the prices went way up
> I am very sad to say, We GWV ed our way to St Lucia.
We did notice that merger. I had hoped it did not mean the end of
what I'd always felt was a pretty decent charter vacation operation.
We'll check out your pictures tonight! Thanks again for the tips!
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Since: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 497
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:26 pm
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In article <361hu21q566kc3uhfi71ohqfpv5o70nhvt.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Chuck & Chris <ChasKMneverspam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:29:51 -0500, Nevis Island Tourism
> <Tragik.DeleteThis@Magik.com> wrote:
> >Try the island of Nevis. Upscale and low stress with no Parrot Heads.
> >Truly the Caribbean the way it used to be before crass commercialism.
> >See my website on Nevis for more photos.
> >Great island but a bit tricky to get to. Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks for the tip. We'll check out your website.
>
> Funny that you should mention "the Caribbean the way it used to be..."
> because that's really what we are BOTH seeking. Being over 50, I can
> still remember St. Martin LONG before it went completely over the top
> with over-development and over-crowding. Those were the good old
> days. I'd personally do anything to capture that "sophisticated &
> varied... yet still laid back & unhurried" kind of atmosphere again.
> It was the very best!
>
> Chuck
Aother possibility is Provo in Turks & Caicos. There is really little
to do there except sit on the beach. But my wife and love the place. >> Stay informed about: Help! Need *New* Caribbean Vacation Destination |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:01 pm
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Easy one - either Virgin Gorda in the BVI or Bequia
in the Grenadines should work for both of you.
"Chuck & Chris" <ChasKMneverspam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6v5eu2pla9lc9h64iap26em8f45i47cccn@4ax.com...
> Please help us find what we are looking for in a *new* (for us!)
> relaxing Caribbean vacation destination. We have been going together
> for 3 years now and have very different tastes and histories in terms
> of prior winter vacationing.
>
> "He" is 52 and has always been a St. Martin guy at heart with its
> uncrowded natural beauty, low hassle factor, low crime, laid-back
> ways, endless gourmet food & restaurants, easy getting around in a
> rental car, etc. "He" tried South Florida and Aruba (one time each)
> and hated both for their crowds, noise, traffic (in Florida), stark
> commercialism and high costs. The Bahamas likewise hold some bad
> memories.
>
> "She" is 47 and comes from an all-inclusive "stay in one place and
> like it" Cancun and Dominican Republic perspective most recently...
> liking both for what they were... with mostly Northern European
> vacations under her belt prior to that. No mobility need for her to
> enjoy an island... and little need for culinary variety or true
> gourmet food either! For her, it's simply plunk down and veg out with
> a good book!
>
> After a whirlwind Caribbean cruise and several quick mini-vacations,
> we are both ready again for a truly relaxing Caribbean vacation... but
> she doesn't *get" the mobility and French island things at all... and
> he doesn't *get* the Mexican and DR "all-inclusive" things... feeling
> captive and having worked (with very little fun or pleasure to
> remember) in both of those locations in years past.
>
> The only thing we can agree on is that we want clean, uncrowded white
> sand beaches and a very low crime location. The multi-island cruise
> taught us quite well to avoid those islands and places where crime is
> currently a bit out of control.
>
> It seems hopeless right now. Especially on our relatively tight
> budget for this year. Other than separate vacations... any ideas?
>
> TIA,
> Chuck and Chris >> Stay informed about: Help! Need *New* Caribbean Vacation Destination |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:31 pm
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Have you ever rented a private house and private beach? I just got
back from a month in Belize on Ambergris Caye. My friend rents out
her house and if you want to write me off list I will be happy to send
you a link to her site.
No rental cars, but you can rent a golf cart or take a boat to explore
and go to town. She has a private beach. The caretaker will cook for
you if your SO really doesn't want to do cooking. There are excellent
restaurants within walking distance. Four villas have their own pool
and private beach, so you won't be swarmed by outsiders. The island
only has 2500 people so that is no problem. There an entire month and
didn't put my shoes on at all. I have been all over Mexico and
limited to the Caribbean, but Belize is going to be my next five
destinations.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:36 pm
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:49:45 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
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>Another possibility is Provo in Turks & Caicos. There is really little
>to do there except sit on the beach. But my wife and I love the place.
Well, guess what? For obvious reasons, Chris had previously chosen
this as her first preference. What a surprise! From the way you
describe it, it might be my hell...but it's her dream vacation.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:55 pm
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In article <2s5hu213tt3hmcjeqhri03iislblm4g0cf DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
Chuck & Chris <ChasKMneverspam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:49:45 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >Another possibility is Provo in Turks & Caicos. There is really little
> >to do there except sit on the beach. But my wife and I love the place.
>
> Well, guess what? For obvious reasons, Chris had previously chosen
> this as her first preference. What a surprise! From the way you
> describe it, it might be my hell...but it's her dream vacation.
>
> Chuck
We like it specifically because most of the good stuff is
within walking distance of where we usually stay on Grace Bay (Ocean
Club Condos). It is however VERY seriously in the Island Time Zone
(which was best described as sorta like manana but without the same
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:00 pm
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:22:16 -0500, Mike <bellsouth.net@mhammoc>
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>I was thinking about suggesting Provo...
>We've been there 6 times. We like and enjoy the Club Med. (If you
>haven't stayed at a Club Med in the past 10 years or so, it is probably
>nothing like what you think it is.) The beach at Grace Bay is, overall,
>about the nicest beach I've seen in the Caribbean (and I've see a lot
>of them). Certainly not overcrowded. The Club Med provides an All
>Inclusive atmosphere that is unlike any other, or there are a number of
>other fine resorts, including a Beaches that is full of kids... By the
>way, my wife and I are in our 50s also, so don't let age slow you down.
> If you like a slower pace, consider the Club Med at Columbus Isle
>(San Salvadore island, Bahamas). You may want to take a look a look at
>some of my trip reports with lots of pictures, at my personal web site:
>www.hammocktree.us/ms/trips.html
>Mike
Good Lord Mike... what an impressive website and Caribbean vacation
resume'! You have us both beat by far! Frankly, we had not thought
of Club Med at all. Perhaps we should do so. Maybe that's the
"missing link" in what it will take to satisfy us both.
We do need to be careful about the *kids* factor... and, frankly,
about the *young studs out to impress the babes* factor as well. While
we are both quite fit and young at heart, we are taking this
particular vacation mainly to unwind and relax. We want a certain
level of quiet adult sophistication rather than muscle beach bingo.
We'll bring up your site tonight and go through it in detail. I love
the high-res pix! Thanks for your input and keep up the good work!
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:10 pm
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Chuck & Chris <ChasKMneverspam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:17:10 -0000, "Rita Daggett"
><r.m.daggett DeleteThis @nospam.open.ac.uk> wrote:
>>Eastwinds St Lucia - its all-inclusive with gourmet food and wine; small and
>>peaceful, but with a 'dine around' option, and the island is very beautiful.
>>Or Tobago - beautiful island; fairly quiet (tho I fear it has a Hilton now).
>>Have you ruled out Barbados - you may have to search around a bit for peace
>>and quiet but I'm sure there are places that fit that bill, and the island
>>has a lot to offer in the way of fun, variety etc.
>
>Thanks for the tips. We did like Barbados a lot when we stopped there
>on our 2005 cruise. Sadly, we never actually got to see any of the
>beaches in the brief time we had there. We were too busy doing the
>standard tourist things, which were quite interesting. The people
>were very nice there. It could fit the bill.
>
>St. Lucia was not one of our favorite stops. It was in the midst of a
>serious crime wave at the time... or so they told us... and we were
>warned to be extremely careful. In view of that, it's probably not our
>best choice even if the resort itself is quite fine.
>
I would suggest St. Kitts except I don't think they have white sand
beaches. It was partly settled by the French, but I haven't eaten
ashore.
St. John has beautiful beaches and nice restaurants, but is pretty
expensive unless you camp at the National Park, and that may not be
your thing.
You might consider some of the places in Belize (like Caye Caulker, or
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