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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:29 pm
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What is an All Inclusive Vacation?
By Wayne Bass
Cruises appeal to many travelers because they are considered all-
inclusive vacations. Pay one price and receive accommodations, meals,
entertainment, and transportation between island and port
destinations. Most cruises do not cover shore excursions, alcoholic
beverages, and gratuities.
Many land-based resorts also refer to themselves as all-inclusive.
These properties offer a different set of included amenities. So what
does it really mean to be all-inclusive?
If you've been debating the merits of cruise and resort vacations,
we've come to your aid. We've compared the all-inclusiveness and
considered the pros and cons of both resorts and cruises to help you
choose a vacation. The question of whether cruising or land based all-
inclusive offer the better value for your money and which is the
better choice for your travel preferences. Is one that largely depends
on what you expect?
Advantages of a Cruise:
Different ports of call
No need to pack and unpack, take your hotel room with you.
Entertainment, Casinos, Spas, Children Programs.
Great food, Relaxation at sea;

Advantages of a Resort (Land Based):
Relaxed on your own schedule
Most have private beaches to soak up the sun.
Use of non motorized water equipment.
Gratuities and drinks are usually included in the base price.
What's included?
All-inclusive cruises and resorts tend to include different amenities
in the base price. Book a mainstream cruise, and you'll receive
accommodations, all meals and snacks, certain beverages at meal times,
use of the ship's facilities (such as the pool, kids club, and fitness
center), onboard activities and entertainment, and transportation
between ports-of-call. You will have to pay extra for certain types of
soft drinks and alcoholic beverages, gratuities, spa treatments, shore
excursions, airfare, and airport transfers. Luxury lines may include
gratuities and alcohol in their base price.
Book an all-inclusive resort package, and you'll receive
accommodations, all meals and beverages, nightly entertainment, access
to the resort's facilities, use of all non motorized water-sports
equipment (such as snorkeling gear, sailboats, and windsurf boards),
and gratuities, higher-end properties, such as Sandals and Super
Clubs, often include scuba diving in the cost as well.
Jose Perez the Owner of Travelersbest.com in Miami, Florida says "they
are both considered all-inclusive it really depends on the taste of
the customer and what they are looking for, he makes it clear that he
offers all types of vacations. He explains further that a good Travel
Professional seeks to develop the best fit for the traveler and
selects vacations from that information".

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:56 pm
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On 2007-10-24 12:09:42 -0700, userusedx.DeleteThis@gmail.com said:

>
> What is an All Inclusive Vacation?

Generally it's a thumping bore.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:11 am
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bill gorley wrote:
> userusedx DeleteThis @gmail.com said:
>> What is an All Inclusive Vacation?

I won't get on a ship unless in the company of no fewer than a
hundred Social Dancers organized by a professional dancer. Being a
Dance Host would be Dancer's Hell. Most of the hosts I know, or have
seen aboard ships, are mediocre dancers.

Although I believe everyone should take at least one trip by ship,
after that it should be with an affinity group in order to avoid it
being

> a thumping bore.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:15 am
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On Oct 25, 6:11 am, Icono Clast <ICl....RemoveThis@JPS.Net> wrote:
> bill gorley wrote:
> > userus....RemoveThis@gmail.com said:
> >> What is an All Inclusive Vacation?
>
> I won't get on a ship unless in the company of no fewer than a
> hundred Social Dancers organized by a professional dancer. Being a
> Dance Host would be Dancer's Hell. Most of the hosts I know, or have
> seen aboard ships, are mediocre dancers.

When you think about it, this is probably a pretty general problem
with any sort of "guide" or organizer in travel. Anyone with any
real knowledge or capability in the subject or area probably
doesn't want a job dealing with effectively "tourists". The vast
majority of the job will be dealing with issues far outside of
their area of expertise. And odds are they'll be dealing with
people with only the most superficial level of knowledge or
interest in the subject in which they are experts.

In one of the only 2 group trips I've ever been on, we had
two guides for the trip. It was a walking tour through Burgandy
with scheduled stops at winerys. One guides job was basically
coordination and transport. He drove the support van and
moved the equipment. The other was the walking guide whose
job it was to translate, keep us on the proper path, and
give the most superficial of information about wine, grape
growing, and the history of the area.

But you cannot imagine the questions and issues with which
they had to deal. Mind you, this trip was SOLD as a walk
through french wine country during the fall grape harvest.
Restaurants were chosen and advertised based upon
their coordination with the local wines sold. One woman
had some alergy which didn't allow her to drink most wines,
and another declared on the first day that she didn't
really like cheese. On about day 3 she asked the
guide if "all of the restaurants would be french in
style". Another couple kept sending their
meat dishes back as "under cooked". One lady was
forever complaining about the length of the walks,
often rode in the van, and her primary concern was
getting to the hotel. At the wineries, we were offered
tastings of some rather expensive wines. One
person kept asking if they had any "chardonnay"
instead. Mind you, this was in the heart of Pinot Noir
country. Lunches were catered and there were
constant requests for "more american style" something
another.

If anyone had any expertise in any aspect of the
region, or wine, or local food in general, I can't imagine
them wanting to try to share it with such a group of folks.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:23 pm
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On Oct 25, 3:54 pm, erilar <dra....DeleteThis@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
> A "Train Trek" with people who were told in advance they'd have to
> handle their own luggage and then brought so much it took two OTHER
> people to get theirs on and off trains. . .
>
> I travel by train on my own regularly. I and one other person packed
> reasonably.


My usual advice on picking luggage is not to pack a bag any bigger
than you can lift over your head, or carry up a flight of stairs.
Both
are associated with using trains and busses.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:51 pm
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In article <2007102417565616807-gorleyw@yahoocom>,
bill gorley <gorleyw.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2007-10-24 12:09:42 -0700, userusedx.RemoveThis@gmail.com said:
>
> >
> > What is an All Inclusive Vacation?
>
> Generally it's a thumping bore.

Well, it's not too bad if it's an Elderhostel trip. They include lots
of information and occasional free time. And you DON'T spend the whole
trip on a bus with every night in a different town.

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Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:54 pm
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In article <1193321734.082744.134600 RemoveThis @d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
me <oconnell RemoveThis @slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:

> On Oct 25, 6:11 am, Icono Clast <ICl... RemoveThis @JPS.Net> wrote:
> > bill gorley wrote:
> > > userus... RemoveThis @gmail.com said:
> > >> What is an All Inclusive Vacation?
> >
> > I won't get on a ship unless in the company of no fewer than a
> > hundred Social Dancers organized by a professional dancer. Being a
> > Dance Host would be Dancer's Hell. Most of the hosts I know, or have
> > seen aboard ships, are mediocre dancers.
>
> When you think about it, this is probably a pretty general problem
> with any sort of "guide" or organizer in travel. Anyone with any
> real knowledge or capability in the subject or area probably
> doesn't want a job dealing with effectively "tourists". The vast
> majority of the job will be dealing with issues far outside of
> their area of expertise. And odds are they'll be dealing with
> people with only the most superficial level of knowledge or
> interest in the subject in which they are experts.

> But you cannot imagine the questions and issues with which
> they had to deal. Mind you, this trip was SOLD as a walk
> through french wine country during the fall grape harvest.
> Restaurants were chosen and advertised based upon
> their coordination with the local wines sold. One woman
> had some alergy which didn't allow her to drink most wines,
> and another declared on the first day that she didn't
> really like cheese. On about day 3 she asked the
> guide if "all of the restaurants would be french in
> style". Another couple kept sending their
> meat dishes back as "under cooked". One lady was
> forever complaining about the length of the walks,
> often rode in the van, and her primary concern was
> getting to the hotel. At the wineries, we were offered
> tastings of some rather expensive wines. One
> person kept asking if they had any "chardonnay"
> instead. Mind you, this was in the heart of Pinot Noir
> country. Lunches were catered and there were
> constant requests for "more american style" something
> another.
>
> If anyone had any expertise in any aspect of the
> region, or wine, or local food in general, I can't imagine
> them wanting to try to share it with such a group of folks.

A "Train Trek" with people who were told in advance they'd have to
handle their own luggage and then brought so much it took two OTHER
people to get theirs on and off trains. . .

I travel by train on my own regularly. I and one other person packed
reasonably.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:32 am
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In article <1193343814.165956.126350 RemoveThis @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
me <oconnell RemoveThis @slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:

> On Oct 25, 3:54 pm, erilar <dra... RemoveThis @chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
> > A "Train Trek" with people who were told in advance they'd have to
> > handle their own luggage and then brought so much it took two OTHER
> > people to get theirs on and off trains. . .
> >
> > I travel by train on my own regularly. I and one other person packed
> > reasonably.
>
>
> My usual advice on picking luggage is not to pack a bag any bigger
> than you can lift over your head, or carry up a flight of stairs.
> Both
> are associated with using trains and busses.

I use a backpack that can also be carried like a suitcase.

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:09 pm
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"erilar" <drache.DeleteThis@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:drache-B0A2CC.11325526102007@news.airstreamcomm.net...
> In article <1193343814.165956.126350.DeleteThis@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> me <oconnell.DeleteThis@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 25, 3:54 pm, erilar <dra....DeleteThis@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > A "Train Trek" with people who were told in advance they'd have to
>> > handle their own luggage and then brought so much it took two OTHER
>> > people to get theirs on and off trains. . .
>> >
>> > I travel by train on my own regularly. I and one other person packed
>> > reasonably.
>>
>>
>> My usual advice on picking luggage is not to pack a bag any bigger
>> than you can lift over your head, or carry up a flight of stairs.
>> Both
>> are associated with using trains and busses.
>
> I use a backpack that can also be carried like a suitcase.
>
I was looking at some of those the other day.

The ones I saw were horribly heavy, 3.5 Kg to 5 Kg each.

I hope the more expensive ones are a lot lighter.

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:09 pm
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In article <fft71d$73l$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"William Black" <william.black.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> "erilar" <drache.TakeThisOut@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:drache-B0A2CC.11325526102007@news.airstreamcomm.net...
> >
> > I use a backpack that can also be carried like a suitcase.
> >
> I was looking at some of those the other day.
>
> The ones I saw were horribly heavy, 3.5 Kg to 5 Kg each.
>
> I hope the more expensive ones are a lot lighter.

Mine was not cheap, but it distributes the weight so well that even
fully loaded, my old body can carry it. Sometimes getting it in and out
of overheads in trains gets tricky, though Cool

--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)

You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is
that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov

Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo 
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