On Feb 26, 1:01 pm, john_k....DeleteThis@hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:31:11 -0500, "Sancho Panza"
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> <otterpo....DeleteThis@xhotmail.com> wrote:
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> >"Mr. Travel" <mtra....DeleteThis@a.a> wrote in message
> >news:ZuKdnU_c1MpuiFnanZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Sancho Panza wrote:
> >>> "John Kulp" <john_k....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:47c32593.637616@news20.forteinc.com...
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> >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:58:35 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsma....DeleteThis@gmail.com>
> >>>>wrote:
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> >>>>>Justin Case writes:
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> >>>>>>The Times Story notes it was the oxygen equipment aboard the plane.
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> >>>>>So the oxygen equipment has not been maintained (if two devices were
> >>>>>empty).
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> >>>>By someone. If someone is going to print a story like this they
> >>>>should tell the whole story.
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> >>> Maybe the airline should be more forthcoming about just what its problem
> >>> was.
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> >> The airline didn't have a problem. There were qualified medical people
> >> onboard the plane trying to help the woman. She died. People die. She just
> >> happened to die on a commercial flight.
>
> >Right. Had nothing to do with the delay in response. Had nothing to do with
> >the inadequate oxygen bottles and the late use of the defibrillator.
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> >The doctor at the scene made it clear that he didn't have much to work with.
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> That's right you moron. It had nothing to do with any of those things
> according to news reports. They didn't delay anything. They had 12
> functioning bottles of oxygen on board and several doctors as well who
> treated her. She just died you moron. You're not one for getting
> your facts straight are you?
Ignoring the ranting name-calling of someone who obviously has an ever-
so-important agenda, here are some of the facts that the above
"according to news reports" sees to fit to include:
Woman Dies On Flight From Haiti To New York
Airline Investigation Disputes Cousin's Account
NEW YORK (CBS) -- American Airlines on Monday insisted it tried to help
a passenger who died after complaining she couldn't breathe, and
disputed the account of a relative who said that she was denied oxygen
and that medical devices failed.
The airline said the oxygen tanks and a defibrillator were working and
noted that several medical professionals on the flight, including a
doctor, tried to save passenger Carine Desir, 44, who had heart
disease.
"American Airlines, after investigation, has determined that oxygen
was administered on the aircraft, and it was working, and the
defibrillator was applied as well," airline spokesman Charley Wilson
said Monday.
Desir had complained of not feeling well and being very thirsty on the
Friday flight home from Port-au-Prince, Haiti, after she ate a meal,
according to Antonio Oliver, a cousin who was traveling with her and
her brother, Joel Desir. A flight attendant gave her water, he said.
A few minutes later, Desir said she was having "trouble breathing" and
asked for oxygen, but a flight attendant twice refused her request,
Oliver said.
"Don't let me die," he recalled her saying.
He said other passengers aboard Flight 896 became agitated over the
situation, and the flight attendant, apparently after phone
consultation with the cockpit, tried to administer oxygen from a
portable tank and mask, but the tank was empty.
Oliver said two doctors and two nurses were aboard and tried to
administer oxygen from a second tank, which also was empty. Desir was
placed on the floor, and a nurse tried CPR, Oliver said. A
defibrillator, which he called a "box," also was applied but didn't
function effectively, he said.
Oliver said he then asked for the plane to "land right away so I can
get her to a hospital," and the pilot agreed to divert to Miami, 45
minutes away. But during that time Desir collapsed and died, Oliver
said.
"Her last words were, 'I cannot breathe,"' he said.
There were 12 oxygen tanks on the plane and the crew checked them
before the flight took off to make sure they were working, Wilson
said. He said at least two were used on Desir.
The Federal Aviation Administration requires commercial flights to
carry no fewer than two oxygen dispensers. The main goal of the rule
is to have oxygen available in the event of a rapid cabin
decompression, but it can also be used for other emergencies. It is up
to the airlines to maintain the canisters.
Flight attendants are trained not to automatically give oxygen to
every passenger who requests it but instead use airline criteria to
judge when it's needed, said Leslie Mayo, a spokeswoman for the union
representing American's attendants.
Wilson said Desir's cousin flagged down a flight attendant and said
the woman had diabetes and needed oxygen. "The flight attendant
responded, 'OK, but we usually don't need to treat diabetes with
oxygen, but let me check anyway and get back to you."'
Wilson said the employee spoke with another flight attendant, and both
went to Desir within one to three minutes.
"By that time the situation was worsening, and they immediately began
administering oxygen," he said.
Wilson said the defibrillator was used but that the machine indicated
Desir's heartbeat was too weak to activate the unit.
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