Learning Basic Flemish

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:38:58 -0700, 'Double Shirly' Jock McShirly the
Mannie Trannie <michaelnewport.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:


>But Phlegmish is only spoken by Dutch people, purveyors of the ugliest
>dialects this side of China.

Be useful in a gob spitting contest.
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> If you manage to say something in Flemish, the reply will be in
> English anyway.

Um, yeah, I said that. Thanks for answering none of my questions...
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<hrbintliff RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I know Flemish is closely related to
> Dutch so would a Dutch guide be all I needed?

Pretty much, yes. "Standard" Flemish is so close to "Algemeen
Nederlands" (Dutch) that if you learn Dutch reasonably well, you'll
be understood in Flemish Belgium just fine.
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dgs
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On Jul 25, 6:36 pm, Keith Anderson <ke....DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:15:36 -0700, hrbintl....DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Hello!
>
> >I wil be travelling to Belgium (primarily the Flanders region) in a
> >few months and was wondering if there is a good guide to learn some
> >Flemish before I get there. I know Flemish is closely related to
> >Dutch so would a Dutch guide be all I needed? I am aware that most of
> >the Flemish speak English (I've been before) but would like to learn a
> >few basics just for the sake of being polite.
>
> And any effort made will be much appreciated by the locals.
>
> A Dutch guide will be fine. Dutch is one of the official languages of
> Belgium - "Flemish" isn't.
>
> Like British English/American English; German German/Austrian German,
> Portugese Portugese/Brazilian Portugese there are differences with
> pronunciaton and sometimes with grammar between Dutch Dutch and
> Belgian Dutch but learn a bit of Dutch and you'll be fine. And there
> are some great accents in Belgium like "Brugs" from Brugge and
> "Oostands" from Oostende.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Keith, Bristol, UK

Thanks for the help! That's all I needed to know...
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, hrbintliff wrote:

> I wil be travelling to Belgium (primarily the Flanders region) in a
> few months and was wondering if there is a good guide to learn some
> Flemish before I get there.

If you're willing to buy an actual book, I can recommend "Dutch for
self-study" by van Kampen and Stumpel.

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Yves Bellefeuille
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:37:52 -0700, "dgs" <dgs.RemoveThis@someplace.com> wrote:

><hrbintliff.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I know Flemish is closely related to
>> Dutch so would a Dutch guide be all I needed?
>
>Pretty much, yes. "Standard" Flemish is so close to "Algemeen
>Nederlands" (Dutch) that if you learn Dutch reasonably well, you'll
>be understood in Flemish Belgium just fine.

How about Afrikaans?
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:15:36 -0700, hrbintliff RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:

>Hello!
>
>I wil be travelling to Belgium (primarily the Flanders region) in a
>few months and was wondering if there is a good guide to learn some
>Flemish before I get there. I know Flemish is closely related to
>Dutch so would a Dutch guide be all I needed? I am aware that most of
>the Flemish speak English (I've been before) but would like to learn a
>few basics just for the sake of being polite.

And any effort made will be much appreciated by the locals.

A Dutch guide will be fine. Dutch is one of the official languages of
Belgium - "Flemish" isn't.

Like British English/American English; German German/Austrian German,
Portugese Portugese/Brazilian Portugese there are differences with
pronunciaton and sometimes with grammar between Dutch Dutch and
Belgian Dutch but learn a bit of Dutch and you'll be fine. And there
are some great accents in Belgium like "Brugs" from Brugge and
"Oostands" from Oostende.

Have fun!

Keith, Bristol, UK
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'Double Shirly' Jock McShirly the Mannie Trannie wrote:

> On 25 Jul, 15:15, hrbintl... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Hello!
>>
>>I wil be travelling to Belgium (primarily the Flanders region) in a
>>few months and was wondering if there is a good guide to learn some
>>Flemish before I get there. I know Flemish is closely related to
>>Dutch so would a Dutch guide be all I needed? I am aware that most of
>>the Flemish speak English (I've been before) but would like to learn a
>>few basics just for the sake of being polite.

I don't think they even PUBLISH a Flemish dictionary in the
U.S.! I had to make do with Dutch, which seemed to work
just fine. I tried to listen to the person I wished to
speak with, first, then address them in the language they
had been speaking. As you say, most are likely to speak
some English, but I found that, if in doubt, it was better
to address native Belgians in English, rather than French.
(Some of the Flemish citizens are a bit touchy about people
simply assuming Belgium is French-speaking.)
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Yves Bellefeuille wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, hrbintliff wrote:
>
>
>>I wil be travelling to Belgium (primarily the Flanders region) in a
>>few months and was wondering if there is a good guide to learn some
>>Flemish before I get there.
>
>
> If you're willing to buy an actual book, I can recommend "Dutch for
> self-study" by van Kampen and Stumpel.

I had a Dutch-English phrase book published by
Dorling-Kindersly, which came with a CD to help with
pronunciation. I lost the book on a bus day trip from
Brussels to Brugges (or maybe had my pocket picked - it was
in an open outside pocket of my purse). I still have the
CD, but unfortunately, the book is out of print! Too bad,
because I found the pronunciation a bit tricky, and
Berlitz's "phonetic" spellings just don't work for me.
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On 25 Jul, 21:09, irwell <h... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:38:58 -0700, 'Double Shirly' Jock McShirly the
>
> Mannie Trannie <michaelnewp... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >But Phlegmish is only spoken by Dutch people, purveyors of the ugliest
> >dialects this side of China.
>
> Be useful in a gob spitting contest.

I found that making them speak English helped, it attracted less
Phlegm.
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On 25 Jul, 22:57, hrbintl....DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> > If you manage to say something in Flemish, the reply will be in
> > English anyway.
>
> Um, yeah, I said that. Thanks for answering none of my questions...

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