Malaria and Mosquito Repellent

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Alfred Molon <alfred_molon.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <fmbcq35kgj9acu8lp5l2dev4fv658938c8.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, Alan S says...
>
>> I would appreciate suggestions on the most effective rub-on
>> or spray-on mosquito repellents for daily personal use.
>> Preferably one that doesn't also repel those who sit next to
>> me in buses and which doesn't make me appear to be covered
>> in baby oil and which is likely to be available in those
>> countries if replenishment is needed.
>
> The Autan they sell here in Germany blocks mosquitoes 100%. Much, much
> more efficient than what I have been able to find in south east Asia. My
> experience is that with the Autan (sold in Germany) mosquitoes do not
> sting me.
That's true, provided that you cover every mm of your skin. However,
it's a bite repellant not an insect repellant as such. When we were in
Austria, that was the one everyone recommended. So we went to
Marchauen-Marchegg slathered in Autan. Right enough, we didn't get
bitten there, but every time we stopped, they got into our mouths,
behind our glasses, into our ears, generally swarmed around us all the
time. Meaning we had to frog-march the whole 7 km without seeing
anything at all.

Slainte

Liz

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"Alan S" <nothere.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote in message
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>> Inda
>
> Mar 15-22

Depends where you are.

But as you're only there (actually 'here' at the moment) for a week there's
no point in stopping your malaria meds.

Whatever you do and wherever you go in March in India you're going to get a
few bites, everybody does, but you've got to be seriously unlucky to catch
anything from them.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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Alan S <nothere.RemoveThis@there.com> wrote:

>
> I would appreciate suggestions on the most effective rub-on
> or spray-on mosquito repellents for daily personal use.
> Preferably one that doesn't also repel those who sit next to
> me in buses and which doesn't make me appear to be covered
> in baby oil and which is likely to be available in those
> countries if replenishment is needed.
>
I've found Mosquito Milk (a roll on, you only need two stripes on each
exposed area, and it smells pretty nice) to be very effective. I'm
very popular with biting insects (because my blood is 95% chocolate?)

Whatever you get, don't get over 80% DEET, as it sweats off. MM is
well under 50%.

Slainte

Liz

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Thanks to all who responded. Good info to base some
decisions on.

Much appreciated.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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latest: Slovenia
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:23:56 +1100, Alan S wrote:

>I'll be talking to my doc on medication prophylaxis, but any
>thoughts on that would also be appreciated.

Alan,

I read the excellent discussion of insect repellants. The other
topic got only a shorter exposure---malaria prophylaxis.

Some known drugs are Lariam, which is problematic because of
nasty side effects (I know, I once swallowed a cure dose), and
Malarone, which doesn't seem to have any side effects on me.
Malarone is twice as expensive though. I can recommend it.

The black horse is Doxycycline, which has already been described
very well in a preceding post. It is quite cheap, but, contrary
to Lariam and Malarone, cannot be used as a cure.

Another popular drug is artemisinine (from China), which is
effective as a cure, but not as a prophylactic.

For a short trip I recommend Malarone, but talk to your doctor
or to a specialist anyway. I don't actually have the medical
competence to recommend anything.

For your particular trip I would recommend to find out when and
for how long you will be in malaria-infested areas, as you don't
have to take phrophylactics outside these areas, apart from any
lead-in and lead-out periods before and after exposure. I would
not recommend to take Malarone or Lariam for a month or more.

In the case of long exposure you would have to look for other
alternatives like taking a malaria self test and a cure dose
with you and very carefully avoiding mosquito bites.

One final remark: Always sleep under a mosquito net, unless you
are absolutely certain that there are no mosquitos there. And
never listen to the locals, because when you ask them for
mosquitos, I found the answer invariably to be, "Yes, there are
mosquitos in this country, but not here."

Hans-Georg
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I just thought of another product that worked wonderfully.. it's called
Avon's Skin So Soft.. there is an oil and a soap..I found the soap was
nicer, it too had a lemony base, but was easier to use because you washed
with it in the shower..

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tell me how much you have traveled.
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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease.TakeThisOut@michna.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:23:56 +1100, Alan S wrote:
>
>>I'll be talking to my doc on medication prophylaxis, but any
>>thoughts on that would also be appreciated.
>
> Alan,
>
> I read the excellent discussion of insect repellants. The other
> topic got only a shorter exposure---malaria prophylaxis.
>
> Some known drugs are Lariam, which is problematic because of
> nasty side effects (I know, I once swallowed a cure dose), and
> Malarone, which doesn't seem to have any side effects on me.
> Malarone is twice as expensive though. I can recommend it.
>
> The black horse is Doxycycline, which has already been described
> very well in a preceding post. It is quite cheap, but, contrary
> to Lariam and Malarone, cannot be used as a cure.
>
> Another popular drug is artemisinine (from China), which is
> effective as a cure, but not as a prophylactic.
>
> For a short trip I recommend Malarone, but talk to your doctor
> or to a specialist anyway. I don't actually have the medical
> competence to recommend anything.
>
> For your particular trip I would recommend to find out when and
> for how long you will be in malaria-infested areas, as you don't
> have to take phrophylactics outside these areas, apart from any
> lead-in and lead-out periods before and after exposure. I would
> not recommend to take Malarone or Lariam for a month or more.
>
> In the case of long exposure you would have to look for other
> alternatives like taking a malaria self test and a cure dose
> with you and very carefully avoiding mosquito bites.
>
> One final remark: Always sleep under a mosquito net, unless you
> are absolutely certain that there are no mosquitos there. And
> never listen to the locals, because when you ask them for
> mosquitos, I found the answer invariably to be, "Yes, there are
> mosquitos in this country, but not here."
>
> Hans-Georg
> --
> No mail, please.
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"Alan S" <nothere.RemoveThis@there.com> kirjoitti
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> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:49:28 GMT, "KGB"
>
> To be honest, the thought of pitching my tent in front of
> Angkor, or the Taj Mahal, or Petra, or Giza, or Abu Simbel,
> or Chichen Itza, or Teotihuacan (all on this trip) does not
> turn me on at all. Even if the local authorities allowed it
> I doubt it would be very wise, let alone comfortable.
>
I may bring a tent along only if I drive in Europe by my own car. To live
comfortably in a tent one needs an air mattress. Mine is 20*160*200cm in
dimension. Because lots of air is needed to stuff the thing, a decent pump
is also necessary. Preferably engined by car's electric system so that we
outdoor heros don't have to sweat unecessarily. The mattress isn't light but
weighs several kilos and it doesn't fold into small space. Minimum camping
gear weighs around 10 kilos. Too much to carry it on a rucksack. Naturally
those cellular plastic mattresses are much lighter but they are no good.

In countries like Cambodia, Egypt, Jordan, India and Mexico accommodation is
so cheap that there is no point to tease oneself by carrying a tent. Those
who overnight in woods think differently.
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"Markku Grönroos" <kurkku DeleteThis @hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
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> In countries like Cambodia, Egypt, Jordan, India and Mexico accommodation
> is so cheap that there is no point to tease oneself by carrying a tent.
> Those who overnight in woods think differently.

Hotels in India are not cheap.

They're very highly taxed and are no cheaper than in Europe.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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"William Black" <william.black.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
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> "Markku Grönroos" <kurkku.RemoveThis@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
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>> In countries like Cambodia, Egypt, Jordan, India and Mexico accommodation
>> is so cheap that there is no point to tease oneself by carrying a tent.
>> Those who overnight in woods think differently.
>
> Hotels in India are not cheap.
>
> They're very highly taxed and are no cheaper than in Europe.
>
I have never visited the country myself. And I won't unless cows have been
removed from the streets to proper grazing lands. However, listings of "the
asia rooms" online booking engine doesn't support your ideas about equal
prices to European hotels (prices may still be heavily taxed). For instance
in Agra prices start from 25 euros for two people. Doesn't sound too
European to me. Moreover, those to whom tent accommodation is an option,
typically aren't too much sissies when it comes to spending a night in a
hotel. I guess a dive (not listed) with a water proof roof comes typically
by a price worth a few euros. I assume that Cambodia and Egypt are cheaper
still in this respect. For instance I typically paid 100 Egyptian pounds for
a room last summer. Someting like 13 euros. Cheapest room with aircon did
cost 40 pounds in Luxor.
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"William Black" <william.black.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Markku Grönroos" <kurkku.RemoveThis@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
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>> In countries like Cambodia, Egypt, Jordan, India and Mexico accommodation
>> is so cheap that there is no point to tease oneself by carrying a tent.
>> Those who overnight in woods think differently.
>
> Hotels in India are not cheap.
>
> They're very highly taxed and are no cheaper than in Europe.
>

India is improving slowly. There are some new chains like Ginger offering
cheaper (but not especially cheap) as entrepreneurs realize that domestic
tourism is the future.

However, the trend is still generally depressingly upscale. Bangalore alone
has a Sheraton, a Marriott and, god forbid, a Ritz-Carlton under
construction.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
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> "William Black" <william.black.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> India is improving slowly. There are some new chains like Ginger offering
> cheaper (but not especially cheap) as entrepreneurs realize that domestic
> tourism is the future.
>
> However, the trend is still generally depressingly upscale. Bangalore
> alone has a Sheraton, a Marriott and, god forbid, a Ritz-Carlton under
> construction.

In Bangalore you have the Kamat chain of hotels where a Deluxe double room
only costs Rps 1,300 and a Deluxe suite Rps 2,000.
If that isn't value for money........

Gerry
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"Gerald Oliver Swift" <goswift.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> In Bangalore you have the Kamat chain of hotels where a Deluxe double room
> only costs Rps 1,300 and a Deluxe suite Rps 2,000.
> If that isn't value for money........
>

Well, yes, not backpacker cheap but cheap enough, I think. Ginger's about
the same - and they're new hotels.

There's also the older Empire and Ramanshree groups.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore
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In article <5uplq359gbo0o2fi6hdiep8val57f856li.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Alan S says...

> To be honest, the thought of pitching my tent in front of
> Angkor, or the Taj Mahal, or Petra, or Giza, or Abu Simbel,
> or Chichen Itza, or Teotihuacan (all on this trip) does not
> turn me on at all. Even if the local authorities allowed it
> I doubt it would be very wise, let alone comfortable.

I also wonder if some local animal would crawl inside the tent...

Besides I usually travel with so much stuff and gear that carrying a
tent and sleeping bag is out of question.
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe
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