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Jeff

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:31 pm
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George Leppla wrote:
>
> "Ray Goldenberg" <ray.RemoveThis@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in message
>
>> NCL Corporation Announces Adjustments to Hawai'i Fleet
>> Company announces Pride of America's deployment through 2010 Pride of
>> Aloha to leave the fleet in May
>>
>> Honolulu - Feb 11, 2008
>> NCL Corporation ("NCL") today announced the withdrawal of Pride of
>> Aloha from the Hawai'i market effective May 11, 2008. The ship is
>> being transferred to Star Cruises and will be reflagged and deployed
>> in Asia in the summer of 2008.
> snip
>
>> Commenting on the Pride of Aloha withdrawal, NCL's President and CEO
>> Colin Veitch said: "Our Hawai'i business has been extraordinarily
>> difficult, and although we have progressively established a stable
>> operation, delivering a good product in a great destination, the
>> overall price level in the market has been driven down, to a
>> significant degree, by an unprecedented expansion of capacity from
>> low-cost foreign flag ships based on the west coast operating domestic
>> Hawai'i itineraries that the Customs Service has indicated are legally
>> the preserve of U.S. flag ships.
>
> Please allow me to translate this into real-speak:
>
> Commenting on the Pride of Aloha withdrawal, NCL's President and CEO
> Colin Veitch said: OK, so we had good intentions. We paid off various
> politicians and bought the USS United States as a jingoistic sweetener,
> and purchased ourselves legislation that awarded us the only legal
> monopoly on Hawaii itineraries. In spite of having NO competition, our
> management team was so inept that we were unable to make a profit. Of
> course, we can blame this all on the fact that some ships do a few
> seasonal repositioning cruises and tried to get the screws put to them
> by getting our political lackeys to expand the scope of the outdated
> Passenger Services Act. Now, in an act of desperation, we are pulling
> the second of three ships from this market. This decision was made by
> our new management team which includes people who ran NCL into the
> ground back in the mid-90's. We feel the new management team has enough
> experience that we are willing to let them take another whack at the
> piņata that NCL has become.
> --------------------------
>
> Bottom line is that NCL has a monopoly on 7 day Hawaii cruises. That is
> like being the only vendor selling ice-water in Hell... and they just
> couldn't get the job done.
>
>

LOL LOL LOL....best read of the morning and I got my daily laugh, and so
true George!

Jeff

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:31 pm
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"Jeff" <jeff-no-spam-coud DeleteThis @no-spam-yahoo.com> wrote

>> Bottom line is that NCL has a monopoly on 7 day Hawaii cruises. That is
>> like being the only vendor selling ice-water in Hell... and they just
>> couldn't get the job done.
>>
>>
>
> LOL LOL LOL....best read of the morning and I got my daily laugh, and so
> true George!

It is funny today but dealing with NCL yesterday set my teeth on edge. I
was the absolute first person to get through to their special NCLA
re-booking desk with a pile of reservations to move (I started speed dialing
at 8:58 AM). They were ill-equipped to deal with this. Everything (and I
do mean everything) had to be manually entered and then approved by a
supervisor.

When I started calling them on Monday, some of the NCL people I talked with
did not even know about this at all. That's right, NCL published a press
release about pulling a ship out of service without first bothering to tell
their own people (or customers, or travel agents.)

That is pathetic.


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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:40 pm
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Retzofrex <retzofrex.RemoveThis@crawler.com> wrote:


>Me thinks Jack simply has not been on a NCL cruise lately, and has a
>hate on for the line. I was on the Norwegian Star in November and
>enjoyed the cruise. I will be on another NCL ship in July, and I
>expect to enjoy that cruise too. I abhor dress up nights and love the
>freestyle dining. Each to their own... however.

Apparently you haven't been reading my postings. I was on the last
cruise of the Pride of Hawaii, which ended last week. I enjoyed it,
and would recommend a similar trip to others,
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:45 am
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"George Leppla" <george.RemoveThis@cruisemaster.com> wrote in message
news:fov35d0tua@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
> "Jeff" <jeff-no-spam-coud.RemoveThis@no-spam-yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>> Bottom line is that NCL has a monopoly on 7 day Hawaii cruises. That is
>>> like being the only vendor selling ice-water in Hell... and they just
>>> couldn't get the job done.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> LOL LOL LOL....best read of the morning and I got my daily laugh, and so
>> true George!
>
> It is funny today but dealing with NCL yesterday set my teeth on edge. I
> was the absolute first person to get through to their special NCLA
> re-booking desk with a pile of reservations to move (I started speed
> dialing at 8:58 AM). They were ill-equipped to deal with this.
> Everything (and I do mean everything) had to be manually entered and then
> approved by a supervisor.
>
> When I started calling them on Monday, some of the NCL people I talked
> with did not even know about this at all. That's right, NCL published a
> press release about pulling a ship out of service without first bothering
> to tell their own people (or customers, or travel agents.)
>
> That is pathetic.
>
>
> --
> George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com
>
>
> May 12, 2008 - 5 nt New Orleans http://www.cruisemaster.com/fantasy.htm
> October 26, 2008 Sleazy 5 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy5.htm
> Feb. 8, 2009 Solstice Valentine http://www.cruisemaster.com/solstice.htm
>
>

George, I know that you will, but I have to say it anyhow.

When you get all the confirmations on the changes, make sure you go over
them with a fine tooth comb for accuracy.

NCL really screwed a group I was doing when they changed the Sun from New
Orleans to Miami after Hurricane Katrina more than two years ago. I called
the day after the home port change was announced. I requested and was
informed that everything would be the same (all cabin numbers specifically
booked due to personal requests) except leaving one day earlier. They later
moved all cabins to lower category and wouldn't admit their mistake or make
any concession on cost due to lowering up to two cabin categories on some of
the cabins. I found out that the cabins were moved when final payment was
due. Two certified, return receipt letters to Colin Veitch were not
responded to in any manner (other than me receiving back the receipts as
received.) I won't book anyone on any NCL ship in the future. They can go
to a different travel agent if they insist on using NCL as I won't be
responsible for unhappy clients.

There are much higher quality cruise lines out there for booking that still
offer exceptional value for the cost and NCL and/or NCLA isn't one of them.
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Chrissy Cruiser

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:09 am
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:45:41 -0500, LVTravel wrote:

> There are much higher quality cruise lines out there for booking that still
> offer exceptional value for the cost and NCL and/or NCLA isn't one of them.

<drumming fingers> hmmm, who might want to buy a freestyle cruise line with
new ships prettier than theirs.......
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:18 am
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"Chrissy Cruiser" <chrissycruiser DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:45:41 -0500, LVTravel wrote:
>
>> There are much higher quality cruise lines out there for booking that
>> still
>> offer exceptional value for the cost and NCL and/or NCLA isn't one of
>> them.
>
> <drumming fingers> hmmm, who might want to buy a freestyle cruise line
> with
> new ships prettier than theirs.......


Princess says hello. HAL is trying a version of open seating... so is Royal
Caribbean. I hear whispers from Carnival people.

People love it or hate it, but more and more are asking for it.


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George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com


May 12, 2008 - 5 nt New Orleans http://www.cruisemaster.com/fantasy.htm
October 26, 2008 Sleazy 5 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy5.htm
Feb. 8, 2009 Solstice Valentine http://www.cruisemaster.com/solstice.htm
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