NY to LHR Newark Best??

In message <spam-E6914E.04220911072007@localhost>, at 04:22:09 on Wed,
11 Jul 2007, Miguel Cruz <spam.TakeThisOut@spam.spam> remarked:
>> Europe has many laws allowing the recognition of businesses and
>> driver/vehicle registrations across borders.
>
>Really? A taxi driver from Spain could show up in Paris and start taking
>fares?

Pre-booked fares from France back to Spain shouldn't be a problem. Paris
is a bit of a long way though.
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Roland Perry
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In message <spam-EB5322.04233311072007@localhost>, at 04:23:33 on Wed,
11 Jul 2007, Miguel Cruz <spam RemoveThis @spam.spam> remarked:
>> If so few NY cabs ever take anyone to EWR, and are therefore available
>> to take a different person back to Manhattan, why bother prohibiting
>> them doing so with passengers? On the other hand, perhaps it really
>> isn't that few?
>
>They're not explicitly prohibited, they merely aren't licensed to pick
>up passengers in New Jersey.

We know that. What I'm saying is that picking up pre-booked passengers
does no-one [1] any harm, and does a lot of good. It's interesting how
within one country like the USA, it's possible to stop someone from
trading, just because of a state border. What happens in those cities
with a state border right through the middle of town?

[1] Apart from NJ cab drivers.
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Roland Perry
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>>They're not explicitly prohibited, they merely aren't licensed to pick
>>up passengers in New Jersey.
>
>We know that. What I'm saying is that picking up pre-booked passengers
>does no-one [1] any harm, and does a lot of good.

As far as I know, NY cabs can pick people up anywhere if you call
ahead. In practice, nobody does. The amount of cab traffic from NYC
to Newark Airport isn't enough to be worth the scheduling hassle, and
there are always plenty of Newark and Elizabeth taxis at EWR.

> It's interesting how within one country like the USA, it's possible
> to stop someone from trading, just because of a state border.

Hmmn. If we tell you another dozen times that this has nothing to do
with state lines, will you pay attention?

> What happens in those cities with a state border right through the
> middle of town?

I can only think of one of any size, Texarkana AR/TX. Never been
there, no idea what their taxis do.

Boston didn't absorb many of its suburbs, so the city of Boston is
fairly small, surrounded by other cities and towns such as Cambridge,
Brookline, Somerville, and Newton. They all have separate taxi
licenses; a Boston taxi can't pick up a fare on the street outside of
Boston, although you can call a taxi from any company anywhere.

(Helpful geography tip: all of these cities and towns are in the same
state, Massachusetts. This has nothing to do with state lines.)

When I lived in Cambridge, I would often take a Cambridge taxi to the
airport which is in Boston. Although the Cambridge cab companies
would have been happy to come and get me at the airport, I never
bothered, just took a Boston cab home. I used to shop at a
supermarket that was on the Cambridge/Somerville line that had
separate taxi stands in each city.

R's,
John
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John L wrote:

>>>They're not explicitly prohibited, they merely aren't licensed to pick
>>>up passengers in New Jersey.
>>
>>We know that. What I'm saying is that picking up pre-booked passengers
>>does no-one [1] any harm, and does a lot of good.
>
>
> As far as I know, NY cabs can pick people up anywhere if you call
> ahead. In practice, nobody does. The amount of cab traffic from NYC
> to Newark Airport isn't enough to be worth the scheduling hassle, and
> there are always plenty of Newark and Elizabeth taxis at EWR.
>
>
>>It's interesting how within one country like the USA, it's possible
>>to stop someone from trading, just because of a state border.
>
>
> Hmmn. If we tell you another dozen times that this has nothing to do
> with state lines, will you pay attention?
>
>
>>What happens in those cities with a state border right through the
>>middle of town?
>
>
> I can only think of one of any size, Texarkana AR/TX. Never been
> there, no idea what their taxis do.

What about Kansas City, MO/KS?
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In article <469aa9ef$0$8012$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
MarcoPoloPlayer <root@localhost> wrote:
>John L wrote:
>
>>>>They're not explicitly prohibited, they merely aren't licensed to pick
>>>>up passengers in New Jersey.
>>>
>>>We know that. What I'm saying is that picking up pre-booked passengers
>>>does no-one [1] any harm, and does a lot of good.
>>
>>
>> As far as I know, NY cabs can pick people up anywhere if you call
>> ahead. In practice, nobody does. The amount of cab traffic from NYC
>> to Newark Airport isn't enough to be worth the scheduling hassle, and
>> there are always plenty of Newark and Elizabeth taxis at EWR.
>>
>>
>>>It's interesting how within one country like the USA, it's possible
>>>to stop someone from trading, just because of a state border.
>>
>>
>> Hmmn. If we tell you another dozen times that this has nothing to do
>> with state lines, will you pay attention?
>>
>>
>>>What happens in those cities with a state border right through the
>>>middle of town?
>>
>>
>> I can only think of one of any size, Texarkana AR/TX. Never been
>> there, no idea what their taxis do.
>
>What about Kansas City, MO/KS?

They are two separate cities, aren't they?
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>>>What happens in those cities with a state border right through the
>>>middle of town?

>What about Kansas City, MO/KS?

When you looked at the map, did you notice any natural features that
separate the two Kansas Cities? Like, you know, the Mississippi
River?

R's,
John
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"John L" <johnl RemoveThis @iecc.com> wrote in message news:f7dlr6$mql$1@gal.iecc.com...
>>>They're not explicitly prohibited, they merely aren't licensed to pick
>>>up passengers in New Jersey.
>>
>>We know that. What I'm saying is that picking up pre-booked passengers
>>does no-one [1] any harm, and does a lot of good.
>
> As far as I know, NY cabs can pick people up anywhere if you call
> ahead. In practice, nobody does. The amount of cab traffic from NYC
> to Newark Airport isn't enough to be worth the scheduling hassle, and
> there are always plenty of Newark and Elizabeth taxis at EWR.
>
>> It's interesting how within one country like the USA, it's possible
>> to stop someone from trading, just because of a state border.
>
> Hmmn. If we tell you another dozen times that this has nothing to do
> with state lines, will you pay attention?
>
>> What happens in those cities with a state border right through the
>> middle of town?
>
> I can only think of one of any size, Texarkana AR/TX. Never been
> there, no idea what their taxis do.

They can typically be licensed to operate by both states

Also Kansas City, which is in both Missouri and Kansas, and which is a much
bigger city than Texarkana.

Practice here is that you telephone to order a cab; you don't just hail one
on the street. And in Kansas City, MO, you hire a Missouri cab; in Kansas
City, KS, you hire a Kansas one. from the airport (which is in Missouri),
you take a Missouri cab (or a shuttle) to any destination in either city.
>
> Boston didn't absorb many of its suburbs, so the city of Boston is
> fairly small, surrounded by other cities and towns such as Cambridge,
> Brookline, Somerville, and Newton. They all have separate taxi
> licenses; a Boston taxi can't pick up a fare on the street outside of
> Boston, although you can call a taxi from any company anywhere.
>
> (Helpful geography tip: all of these cities and towns are in the same
> state, Massachusetts. This has nothing to do with state lines.)
>
> When I lived in Cambridge, I would often take a Cambridge taxi to the
> airport which is in Boston. Although the Cambridge cab companies
> would have been happy to come and get me at the airport, I never
> bothered, just took a Boston cab home. I used to shop at a
> supermarket that was on the Cambridge/Somerville line that had
> separate taxi stands in each city.
>
> R's,
> John
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On Jul 9, 12:17 pm, Miguel Cruz <s....RemoveThis@spam.spam> wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_goo....RemoveThis@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> > Agreed. Part of the general problem is that the goal of a "single
> > seat" solution is nigh impossible within any metropolis that's large
> > enough to have more than one mass transit line.
>
> Like San Francisco, Chicago, Singapore, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Madrid,
> Istanbul, Sydney, Vienna, Amsterdam, Singapore, and Hong Kong, to name
> just some of the cities where I've managed to get directly into the
> center of town on one train from the airport in the past year or so.


Sorry for the delay in responding (YA trip); I think something got
lost in translation.

My intended context of "single seat" was a ride from the airport to
_anywhere_ within the destination city. This pragmatically requires
that the airport also be the rail transportation hub nexus.

In the specific case of JFK and EWR in New York City (I don't know
about LGA), both of their rail link systems require at least one
change *before* you get to anything that you could consider calling a
transportation hub.

In the case of JFK, it is at either Howard Beach Station, which allows
you to transfer to just the A line, or at Jamacia Station, which
affords transfers to the LIRR, E, J and Z. You'll notice that neither
of these are the hubs of New York Penn Station or New York Grand
Central Station, which were the "one seat" objectives of those that
were originally critical of the project.


For EWR, the airport monorail goes to the 'Rail Link Station' on the
shared AMTRAK/NJ Transit rail line for your first transfer. Or you
can take a bus to various places, which for the one going into NYC
probably still goes to the 42nd Street Port Authority Bus Depot, where
you can then transfer to various subway lines, etc.


-hh
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In message <KXOmi.19396$Rw1.2252@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, at
18:39:38 on Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Jeff Hacker <jhacker.RemoveThis@usa.net> remarked:
>Also Kansas City, which is in both Missouri and Kansas, and which is a much
>bigger city than Texarkana.
>
>Practice here is that you telephone to order a cab; you don't just hail one
>on the street. And in Kansas City, MO, you hire a Missouri cab; in Kansas
>City, KS, you hire a Kansas one. from the airport (which is in Missouri),
>you take a Missouri cab (or a shuttle) to any destination in either city.

If you arrive at the airport in a cab from Kansas City, KS, is he
allowed to take a return passenger, or does he have to travel empty?
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Roland Perry
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Roland Perry wrote:

> In message <KXOmi.19396$Rw1.2252@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, at
> 18:39:38 on Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Jeff Hacker <jhacker.RemoveThis@usa.net> remarked:
>
>> Also Kansas City, which is in both Missouri and Kansas, and which is a
>> much
>> bigger city than Texarkana.
>>
>> Practice here is that you telephone to order a cab; you don't just
>> hail one
>> on the street. And in Kansas City, MO, you hire a Missouri cab; in
>> Kansas
>> City, KS, you hire a Kansas one. from the airport (which is in
>> Missouri),
>> you take a Missouri cab (or a shuttle) to any destination in either city.
>
>
> If you arrive at the airport in a cab from Kansas City, KS, is he
> allowed to take a return passenger, or does he have to travel empty?

That would depend on if he has taxi permit for KC, KS
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"Roland Perry" <roland.RemoveThis@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xd1eJEAgCKnGFAI$@perry.co.uk...
> In message <KXOmi.19396$Rw1.2252@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, at 18:39:38
> on Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Jeff Hacker <jhacker.RemoveThis@usa.net> remarked:
>>Also Kansas City, which is in both Missouri and Kansas, and which is a
>>much
>>bigger city than Texarkana.
>>
>>Practice here is that you telephone to order a cab; you don't just hail
>>one
>>on the street. And in Kansas City, MO, you hire a Missouri cab; in Kansas
>>City, KS, you hire a Kansas one. from the airport (which is in Missouri),
>>you take a Missouri cab (or a shuttle) to any destination in either city.
>
> If you arrive at the airport in a cab from Kansas City, KS, is he allowed
> to take a return passenger, or does he have to travel empty?
> --
> Roland Perry



I'm almost certain (but not totally positive) that only taxis licensed in
KCK can pick up on the Kansas side of the line (the city is divided by State
Line Drive) and only taxis licensed in KCMo can pic up there.
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In article <_G9ni.9316$eY.8927@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
"Jeff Hacker" <jhacker RemoveThis @usa.net> wrote:

>
> I'm almost certain (but not totally positive) that only taxis licensed in
> KCK can pick up on the Kansas side of the line (the city is divided by State
> Line Drive) and only taxis licensed in KCMo can pic up there.

One can only hope that "green" considerations will eventually get all
these economically wasteful, unnecessary, and anti-competitive taxi
restrictions thrown out.
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In message <siegman-2E4BB7.14571017072007.DeleteThis@news.stanford.edu>, at
14:57:10 on Tue, 17 Jul 2007, AES <siegman.DeleteThis@stanford.edu> remarked:
>One can only hope that "green" considerations will eventually get all
>these economically wasteful, unnecessary, and anti-competitive taxi
>restrictions thrown out.

That's why I started this thread (but clearly few people posting to it
other than yourself seems to agree with me).
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Roland Perry
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