NY to LHR Newark Best??

Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <f7eebn$1asp$1@gal.iecc.com>, at 00:32:55 on Mon, 16 Jul
> 2007, John L <johnl DeleteThis @iecc.com> remarked:
>> When you looked at the map, did you notice any natural features that
>> separate the two Kansas Cities? Like, you know, the Mississippi
>> River?
>
> London is separated by the Thames, and Paris the Seine (etc etc), yet
> cabs are automatically licensed both sides of the river.

Sarf of the river at this time of night mate?
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>So permits in the two halves of the city ...

They're separate cities that happen to have similar names.

I don't understand why you find it so hard to grasp the concept the
concept of separate jurisdictions, you know, like the reason that
London taxis charge you 50 pounds to take you to Slough.

R's,
John
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In message <f7lkbc$2b2q$1@gal.iecc.com>, at 17:58:04 on Wed, 18 Jul
2007, John L <johnl.TakeThisOut@iecc.com> remarked:
>I don't understand why you find it so hard to grasp the concept the
>concept of separate jurisdictions, you know, like the reason that
>London taxis charge you 50 pounds to take you to Slough.

Starting from where? If Central London, the metered fare would be about
the same. If from Heathrow, it's because they can't easily get a fare
back to Central London (from Slough). If you've just dropped someone off
at an airport there are plenty of people wanting to go back to the City
Centre (or City Centres if there are twin cities).

But mainly they are *allowed* to do all these various journeys, which is
the point I'm trying to make.
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Roland Perry
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cupra wrote:

>> London is separated by the Thames, and Paris the Seine (etc etc), yet
>> cabs are automatically licensed both sides of the river.
>
> Sarf of the river at this time of night mate?
>
>

You took the words right out of my mouth.

North and 'Sarf' are completely different cities. People from either
side think the other is just a place on the map with 'here be demons' on it.

mf
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Roland Perry wrote:

> In message <x-SdnWPDxZRkswDbnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>, at 14:04:57
> on Tue, 17 Jul 2007, NotABushSupporter <user.RemoveThis@not.here> remarked:
>
>>>> Practice here is that you telephone to order a cab; you don't just
>>>> hail one
>>>> on the street. And in Kansas City, MO, you hire a Missouri cab; in
>>>> Kansas
>>>> City, KS, you hire a Kansas one. from the airport (which is in
>>>> Missouri),
>>>> you take a Missouri cab (or a shuttle) to any destination in either
>>>> city.
>>>
>>> If you arrive at the airport in a cab from Kansas City, KS, is he
>>> allowed to take a return passenger, or does he have to travel empty?
>>
>>
>> That would depend on if he has taxi permit for KC, KS
>
>
> So permits in the two halves of the city don't convey any reciprocal
> rights? Not even just to allow a booked pickup back to their own side of
> the river?

They are 2 different cities.
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Mystery Flyer wrote:
> cupra wrote:
>
>>> London is separated by the Thames, and Paris the Seine (etc etc),
>>> yet cabs are automatically licensed both sides of the river.
>>
>> Sarf of the river at this time of night mate?
>>
>>
>
> You took the words right out of my mouth.
>
> North and 'Sarf' are completely different cities. People from either
> side think the other is just a place on the map with 'here be demons'
> on it.

Never a truer word etc....!
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In message <qbydnXl5i9b8GAPbRVnyhAA.RemoveThis@bt.com>, at 22:25:51 on Wed, 18 Jul
2007, Mystery Flyer <n2007.RemoveThis@mysteryflyer.com> remarked:
>>> London is separated by the Thames, and Paris the Seine (etc etc), yet
>>> cabs are automatically licensed both sides of the river.
>> Sarf of the river at this time of night mate?
>
>You took the words right out of my mouth.
>
>North and 'Sarf' are completely different cities. People from either
>side think the other is just a place on the map with 'here be demons'
>on it.

So please explain which law means taxis can only operate on one side of
the river.
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Roland Perry
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Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <qbydnXl5i9b8GAPbRVnyhAA RemoveThis @bt.com>, at 22:25:51 on Wed, 18
> Jul 2007, Mystery Flyer <n2007 RemoveThis @mysteryflyer.com> remarked:
>>>> London is separated by the Thames, and Paris the Seine (etc etc),
>>>> yet cabs are automatically licensed both sides of the river.
>>> Sarf of the river at this time of night mate?
>>
>> You took the words right out of my mouth.
>>
>> North and 'Sarf' are completely different cities. People from either
>> side think the other is just a place on the map with 'here be demons'
>> on it.
>
> So please explain which law means taxis can only operate on one side
> of the river.

<whoosh>?
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In message <L9ednWBqtdM3tQLbnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>, at 02:02:27
on Thu, 19 Jul 2007, NotABushSupporter <user RemoveThis @not.here> remarked:
>> So permits in the two halves of the city don't convey any
>>reciprocal rights? Not even just to allow a booked pickup back to
>>their own side of the river?
>
>They are 2 different cities.

My question stands (as amended):

"So permits in the two cities don't convey any reciprocal rights? Not
even just to allow a booked pickup back to their own side of the river?"

No such silliness in closely neighbouring cities in the UK like
Salford/Manchester, Birmingham/Wolverhampton etc.

(I'll avoid mentioning the adjacent Cities of London and Westminster, as
that always starts other and somewhat irrelevant distractions).
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Roland Perry
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>"So permits in the two cities don't convey any reciprocal rights? Not
>even just to allow a booked pickup back to their own side of the river?"

Well, we've answered this question about a dozen times already. Since
for some reason you refuse to believe what we say, there isn't much
point it wasting more time, is there?

Incidentally, there are plenty of taxis at Newark for anyone who wants
to go into NYC, so this whole argument has been pretty pointless.
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In message <f7ntgi$deg$1@gal.iecc.com>, at 14:46:42 on Thu, 19 Jul 2007,
John L <johnl DeleteThis @iecc.com> remarked:
>>"So permits in the two cities don't convey any reciprocal rights? Not
>>even just to allow a booked pickup back to their own side of the river?"
>
>Well, we've answered this question about a dozen times already. Since
>for some reason you refuse to believe what we say, there isn't much
>point it wasting more time, is there?

I believe what you say, but still regard the reasons as something I
would not expect from a country that claims to lead the world in freedom
and enterprise.

>Incidentally, there are plenty of taxis at Newark for anyone who wants
>to go into NYC, so this whole argument has been pretty pointless.

The point is the *waste* in all the NYC cabs going back empty. Not only
does it destroy the environment, it pushes up prices.
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Roland Perry
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>Even in the "country that claims to lead the world in freedom and
>enterprise" the states have the right to license business activity.

Actually, the states tend to delegate it to municipalities, as I noted
in my message about cabs around Boston.

R's,
John
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In message <co8v9354ckr64lkh22p9t2svcqte4o7cqp DeleteThis @4ax.com>, at 20:46:22 on
Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Binyamin Dissen <postingid DeleteThis @dissensoftware.com>
remarked:
>Even in the "country that claims to lead the world in freedom and enterprise"
>the states have the right to license business activity.

Which they appear to do more ferociously than countries which don't
claim that mantle. This is simply weird!

But as you imply, no need to discuss it further - we tourists simply
have to try to adapt to it.
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Roland Perry
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