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What do you want to see and do

I take it you are landing in New York can not say about stay in NY or
Boston without knowing what you are looking forward

from Boston I know its a year of celebration in Quebec city 3 days might
be too long, Montreal is defiantly to long less to see than Quebec City
Ottawa is good for 5 days Toronto is ok you can add a day

Niagara Falls good to arrive in morning leave same day BUT best time to
see falls is at sundown

why go out of the way to Chicago?

see Philadelphia when you go to Washington which is a 5 day visit

without knowing what you see or do these are my opinion

Thank You
Smiles


max11 wrote:
> Hi at all! I need again your help
> I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
> days more for flights.
> I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
> because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
> Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
> 1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
> Boston is too much?
> New York 7 days
> Philadelphia 2
> Boston 4
> Montreal 5
> Quebec 3
> Ottawa 2 ?
> Toronto 3
> Niagara Falls
> -flight- (from Buffalo)
> Chicago 4
> -flight-
> Washington 3-4 ?
>
> 2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
> 3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> big doubt:
> from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> even if I can't understand the time schedule su
> http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdf
> http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/40.pdf because I don't
> understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
> 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> there?
> because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
> 5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
> me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
> For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.
> can I see the whales about 20th May?
> 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> Thanks
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On Feb 17, 2:04 pm, Alan S <noth... RemoveThis @there.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:59:54 -0800 (PST), max11
>
>
>
> <eagles1... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi at all! I need again your help
> >I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
> >days more for flights.
> >I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
> >because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
> >Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
> >1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
> >Boston is too much?
> >New York 7 days
> >Philadelphia 2
> >Boston 4
> >Montreal 5
> >Quebec 3
> >Ottawa 2 ?
> >Toronto 3
> >Niagara Falls
> >-flight- (from Buffalo)
> >Chicago 4
> >-flight-
> >Washington 3-4 ?
>
> >2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> >Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
> >3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> >big doubt:
> >from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> >Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> >there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> >or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> >Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> >I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> >Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> >even if I can't understand the time schedule su
> >http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdf
> >http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/40.pdfbecause I don't
> >understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
> >4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> >there?
> >because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> >cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> >need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
> >5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
> >me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
> >For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.
> >can I see the whales about 20th May?
> >6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> >Thanks
>
> Just a tip before the locals answer. You may find it cheaper
> to stay at good hotels in some places.
>
> Check out prices onwww.hotwire.comandwww.expedia.com
>
> Cheers, Alan, Australia
> --http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Slovenia

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"max11" <eagles1929 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cbd8ae3-1a58-42b2-9285-6d8a1d1b9ad8@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> Hi at all! I need again your help
> I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
> days more for flights.
> I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
> because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
> Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
> 1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
> Boston is too much?
> New York 7 days
> Philadelphia 2
> Boston 4
> Montreal 5
> Quebec 3
> Ottawa 2 ?
> Toronto 3
> Niagara Falls
> -flight- (from Buffalo)
> Chicago 4
> -flight-
> Washington 3-4 ?
>


The route is a bit odd, Philadelphia is south of NYC

> 2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?

If you were passing through then the Henry Ford museum in Detrot is
worth a look but I wouldnt make a special trip

> 3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> big doubt:
> from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> even if I can't understand the time schedule su

Stay in Niagara. There is no compelling reason to visit Bufalo

> http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdf
> http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/40.pdf because I don't
> understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
> 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> there?

Damn right

> because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>

There are bus and train stations in all 5 boroughs. You can alsobuy
unlimited use day tickets for $7 per day

> 5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
> me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
> For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.

Without a car Cape Cod would be problem. I'd suggest a trip
to Salem Mass which is easily reached from Boston by train
http://www.salemweb.com/guide/tosee.php

> can I see the whales about 20th May?
> 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>

Kingston Ontario or Niagara on the lake would be better bets IMHO

Keith
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:59:54 -0800 (PST), max11
<eagles1929 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi at all! I need again your help
>I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
>days more for flights.
>I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
>because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
>Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
>1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
>Boston is too much?
>New York 7 days
>Philadelphia 2
>Boston 4
>Montreal 5
>Quebec 3
>Ottawa 2 ?
>Toronto 3
>Niagara Falls
>-flight- (from Buffalo)
>Chicago 4
>-flight-
>Washington 3-4 ?
>
>2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
>Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
>3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
>big doubt:
>from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
>Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
>there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
>or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
>Niagara Falls 8.15am?
>I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
>Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
>even if I can't understand the time schedule su
>http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdf
>http://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/40.pdf because I don't
>understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
>4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
>there?
>because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
>cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
>need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
>5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
>me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
>For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.
>can I see the whales about 20th May?
>6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
>Thanks

Just a tip before the locals answer. You may find it cheaper
to stay at good hotels in some places.

Check out prices on www.hotwire.com and www.expedia.com


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:39:59 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
<keithnospam.RemoveThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"max11" <eagles1929.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7cbd8ae3-1a58-42b2-9285-6d8a1d1b9ad8@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi at all! I need again your help
>> I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
>> days more for flights.
>> I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
>> because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
>> Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>>
>> 1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
>> Boston is too much?
>> New York 7 days
>> Philadelphia 2
>> Boston 4
>> Montreal 5
>> Quebec 3
>> Ottawa 2 ?
>> Toronto 3
>> Niagara Falls
>> -flight- (from Buffalo)
>> Chicago 4
>> -flight-
>> Washington 3-4 ?
<snip>
>> 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>>
>
>Kingston Ontario or Niagara on the lake would be better bets IMHO

I might disagree with that, but I may also be somewhat biased.

It all depends on what Max wants to see. Ottawa has the usual museums
for national capital plus some more unique sites. There are free
tours of Parliament Hill, tour buses that roam around the city, the
Byward Market (boutiques, pubs, restaurants -- the heart of the city),
the semi-wilderness of the Gatineau Park, etc.

Kingston is a pretty city and ditto for Niagara-on-the-Lake.
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"Max":
> > New York 7 days
> > Philadelphia 2
> > Boston 4
> > Montreal 5

Keith Willshaw:
> The route is a bit odd, Philadelphia is south of NYC

It makes sense. Presumably Max can fly into NYC more conveniently or
more cheaply than into Boston, so he has to do some doubling-back to
hit all four of the above cities and then continue west from Montreal.

I would do all of this part by train, and for the trip to Montreal,
I would returning to NYC for an overnight stop and going to Montreal
from there. The railway follows the Hudson River valley pretty much
all the way to Albany, and this is scenery you can't easily see by
road. For the second half of the trip there is more scenery with the
Adirondacks and Lake Champlain.

There are two and a half important notes. First, the train does not
have assigned seating, so get there at least an hour before departure
and try to get a window seat on the left in order to be on the river
side. After Albany it may be better to switch to the other side if
there is a seat available, but probably there won't be.

One and a halfth, last summer when I boarded a train from New York to
Canada, I was told at the station (1) to get in "that lineup", and
(2) that before going to the platform I had to report to a "Canadian
check-in" desk where they would look at my passport. However, the
Canadian check-in desk was not actually at the front of the line --
it was a portable stand, with a tiny sign, next to the gate that led
to the platform. When they announced that the train was boarding,
there was mass confusion as many people from the lineup did not know
where they were supposed to go, with the result that the order of
people in the line was not followed at all. Perhaps this was an
unusual day, but I doubt it.

The second note is that this train is not only slow due to making many
stops, it also takes an excruciatingly long time at the border. When
it gets there, it stops until the border guards have gone through the
train and inspected *everybody* -- which can take more than an hour,
and you're expected to stay in your seat, too. So bring a good book
or some other amusement for the time when you're stopped.

If the train sounds like too much hassle, another way to see the
Hudson River from the train is to take a ride from New York to some
point along the Hudson by commuter (suburban) train, and back. These
are operated by Metro-North and they run as far north as Poughkeepsie
(pronounced "p-KIP-see"), which is about halfway to Albany. Just pick
a town on the route and ride there and back.

> > 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> > there?
>
> Damn right

Yes.

> > because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> > cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> > need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
> There are bus and train stations in all 5 boroughs.

The main long-distance stations are in Manhattan, though, specifically
midtown Manhattan. All Amtrak trains use Pennsylvania ("Penn") Station;
major bus companies use the Port Authority bus terminal. If you want
to use the commuter train to Trenton, which came up in an earlier thread,
that also leaves from Penn Station; but the Metro-North trains to
Poughkeepsie leave from Grand Central Terminal (a building which you
should visit even if you're not boarding a train there).

> > 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> Kingston Ontario or Niagara on the lake would be better bets IMHO

All three places have their admirers; it depends on what you like.
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On 17 Feb, 22:39, "Keith Willshaw" <keithnos....TakeThisOut@demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > Boston is too much?
> > New York 7 days
> > Philadelphia 2
> > Boston 4
> > Montreal 5
> > Quebec 3
> > Ottawa 2 ?
> > Toronto 3
> > Niagara Falls
> > -flight- (from Buffalo)
> > Chicago 4
> > -flight-
> > Washington 3-4 ?
>
> The route is a bit odd, Philadelphia is south of NYC

because of flying from Chicago to Was DC is cheaaper than fly to
Philadelphia, than
Philadelphia seems easier by bus from Ny than from DC. Even if then I
have to do Ph-Ny-Boston

> > 2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> > Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
>
> If you were passing through then the Henry Ford museum in Detrot is
> worth a look but I wouldnt make a special trip
>
> > 3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> > big doubt:
> > from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> > Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> > there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> > or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> > Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> > I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> > Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> > even if I can't understand the time schedule su
>
> Stay in Niagara. There is no compelling reason to visit Bufalo
>
What do you think about seeing the falls in the night; is it worth it
to stay a day more? If not, I could arrive at Niagara at abou7
9.30-10.00 am and leave again in the late afternoon to Chicago.
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On 17 Feb, 19:22, Smiles <smile_inspec....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What do you want to see and do
>
> I take it you are landing in New York can not say about stay in NY or
> Boston without knowing what you are looking forward
>
> from Boston I know its a year of celebration in Quebec city 3 days might
> be too long, Montreal is defiantly to long less to see than Quebec City
> Ottawa is good for 5 days Toronto is ok you can add a day
>
> Niagara Falls good to arrive in morning leave same day BUT best time to
> see falls is at sundown
>
> why go out of the way to Chicago?

because I have a lot of day! anyway I'd spend 210$ to fly there and
then to Washington. Isn't worth it?

>
> see Philadelphia when you go to Washington which is a 5 day visit
>
> without knowing what you see or do these are my opinion

I'm 28yo, I like to visit cities walking on the streets (even if I
know spaces are bigger than European cities,so it's harder) to know
places, to breath the place air: I tkink this kind of approach takes
at least one week for each city. I like to see monuments, big
architectures, big squares and the city atmospheare I like sometimes
to visit museums, but not many in few days and they are often so
bigger that they take at least one day, and I become bored because I
need time to enjoy them.
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On 18 Feb, 03:04, m....TakeThisOut@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":
>
> > > New York 7 days
> > > Philadelphia 2
> > > Boston 4
> > > Montreal 5
>
> Keith Willshaw:
>
> > The route is a bit odd, Philadelphia is south of NYC
>
> It makes sense. Presumably Max can fly into NYC more conveniently or
> more cheaply than into Boston, so he has to do some doubling-back to
> hit all four of the above cities and then continue west from Montreal.
>
> I would do all of this part by train, and for the trip to Montreal,
> I would returning to NYC for an overnight stop and going to Montreal
> from there. The railway follows the Hudson River valley pretty much
> all the way to Albany, and this is scenery you can't easily see by
> road. For the second half of the trip there is more scenery with the
> Adirondacks and Lake Champlain.

SO do you mean all this part: Ny to PH and BO and then from NY to MO?
How much is better doing by train instead of by bus. Beacause with the
second option is much cheaper (69$ from Boston to Montreal) and I
must not go back to NY

> There are two and a half important notes. First, the train does not
> have assigned seating, so get there at least an hour before departure
> and try to get a window seat on the left in order to be on the river
> side. After Albany it may be better to switch to the other side if
> there is a seat available, but probably there won't be.
>
> One and a halfth, last summer when I boarded a train from New York to
> Canada, I was told at the station (1) to get in "that lineup", and
> (2) that before going to the platform I had to report to a "Canadian
> check-in" desk where they would look at my passport. However, the
> Canadian check-in desk was not actually at the front of the line --
> it was a portable stand, with a tiny sign, next to the gate that led
> to the platform. When they announced that the train was boarding,
> there was mass confusion as many people from the lineup did not know
> where they were supposed to go, with the result that the order of
> people in the line was not followed at all. Perhaps this was an
> unusual day, but I doubt it.
>
> The second note is that this train is not only slow due to making many
> stops, it also takes an excruciatingly long time at the border. When
> it gets there, it stops until the border guards have gone through the
> train and inspected *everybody* -- which can take more than an hour,
> and you're expected to stay in your seat, too. So bring a good book
> or some other amusement for the time when you're stopped.
>
> If the train sounds like too much hassle, another way to see the
> Hudson River from the train is to take a ride from New York to some
> point along the Hudson by commuter (suburban) train, and back. These
> are operated by Metro-North and they run as far north as Poughkeepsie
> (pronounced "p-KIP-see"), which is about halfway to Albany. Just pick
> a town on the route and ride there and back.
>

> > > 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> > Kingston Ontario or Niagara on the lake would be better bets IMHO
>
> All three places have their admirers; it depends on what you like.

In fact I'm planning to visit too many cities and nor
nature,lakes,etc. I'd like some places easy to get to by bus or train
from the main ciites

Thanks
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"max11" <eagles1929 DeleteThis @gmail.com> schrieb

> What do you think about seeing the falls in the night; is it worth it
> to stay a day more?

I wouldn't bother. They look *very* artificial with the illumination.
But that's just my personal taste. Others like it that way.

My idea of the falls in the night:
Pitch black night, standing next to the edge and just hearing, feeling
them. Eerie!

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"Max":
>>>> New York 7 days
>>>> Philadelphia 2
>>>> Boston 4
>>>> Montreal 5

Mark Brader:
>> I would do all of this part by train, and for the trip to Montreal,
>> I would returning to NYC for an overnight stop and going to Montreal
>> from there. The railway follows the Hudson River valley pretty much
>> all the way to Albany, and this is scenery you can't easily see by
>> road. For the second half of the trip there is more scenery with the
>> Adirondacks and Lake Champlain.

"Max":
> SO do you mean all this part: Ny to PH and BO and then from NY to MO?

Yes. By the way, these abbreviations are not usual and would be
confusing without context.

> How much is better doing by train instead of by bus. Beacause with the
> second option is much cheaper (69$ from Boston to Montreal) and I
> must not go back to NY

(I guess you mean "I don't need to go back". "I must not go back" means
it is not possible for you to go back. Negations of expressions with
different parts can be tricky!)

I made that recommendation because (1) trains are more comfortable than
buses, (2) on the Philadelphia - New York - Boston route the train is
faster, and (3) the train running north from New York shows you scenery
you won't see from a bus. However, I don't know about prices.
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On 19 Feb, 07:26, m... DeleteThis @vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> "Max":
>
> >>>> New York 7 days
> >>>> Philadelphia 2
> >>>> Boston 4
> >>>> Montreal 5
>
> Mark Brader:
>
> >> I would do all of this part by train, and for the trip to Montreal,
> >> I would returning to NYC for an overnight stop and going to Montreal
> >> from there. The railway follows the Hudson River valley pretty much
> >> all the way to Albany, and this is scenery you can't easily see by
> >> road. For the second half of the trip there is more scenery with the
> >> Adirondacks and Lake Champlain.
>
> "Max":
>
> > SO do you mean all this part: Ny to PH and BO and then from NY to MO?
>
> Yes. By the way, these abbreviations are not usual and would be
> confusing without context.
>
> > How much is better doing by train instead of by bus. Beacause with the
> > second option is much cheaper (69$ from Boston to Montreal) and I
> > must not go back to NY
>
> (I guess you mean "I don't need to go back". "I must not go back" means
> it is not possible for you to go back. Negations of expressions with
> different parts can be tricky!)
>
> I made that recommendation because (1) trains are more comfortable than
> buses, (2) on the Philadelphia - New York - Boston route the train is
> faster, and (3) the train running north from New York shows you scenery
> you won't see from a bus. However, I don't know about prices.

I consider your advices!
I'm thinking that it would be worth it to visit the parks,little
cities, villages, nature between and around Quebec and Toronto instead
of visiting only big cities and metropolis (I'm thinking to drop
Chicago and have more days; also I would have not to book flights and
I will be more free: I could do Buffalo-Philadelphia-washington by
bus).
But I think moving without a car is much more difficoult so I could:
a)could I rent a smart? I can't find it!
b) It will take more time, but i'll travel by bus or train hoping
thaose place are served by pubblic transport or organized bus tour,
being some tourist I think! Do you know about public transport and bus
tour?
c)I could join to some cars with people I will met in hostels.

What do you think about?
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max11 <eagles1929.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>I consider your advices!
>I'm thinking that it would be worth it to visit the parks,little
>cities, villages, nature between and around Quebec and Toronto instead
>of visiting only big cities and metropolis (I'm thinking to drop
>Chicago and have more days; also I would have not to book flights and
>I will be more free: I could do Buffalo-Philadelphia-washington by
>bus).


Yes, the countryside and nature parks will be nice in May. (But late May the
black flies can come out.)

Yes, a car is most convenient to do this. Beware that travelling from Quebec
to Toronto and visiting a few parks will be over 1000km. You really want
unlimited kilometres allowed, or a high number.

As I have a car, I have not tried taking buses to small towns or parks. Except
for Victoria Day long weekend (May 17-19) it is still too early for much
vacation service to "cottage country".

>But I think moving without a car is much more difficoult so I could:
>a)could I rent a smart? I can't find it!

Smarts are premium-priced cars in Canada. Look to rent a "subcompact". This
will be comething like a Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, etc. You may get a larger
car for the same price anyway. With a lot of travel outside of the city, it
will not cost that much more for fuel.

>b) It will take more time, but i'll travel by bus or train hoping
>thaose place are served by pubblic transport or organized bus tour,
>being some tourist I think! Do you know about public transport and bus
>tour?

You can search, but I am not aware of any regular tours, especially in May.
("Vacation season" is usually July and August.)

>c)I could join to some cars with people I will met in hostels.

In hostels and other places where there are budget travellers, there is often a
notice board with rides offered by people who are going places and want to share
cost and often the driving. I have offered rides a few times. The problem is
that you do not know what will be available until you are at the hostel or other
place that has these notices. So you can not make definite plans, and you must
be quite flexible with your times--people offering a ride will usually leave on
their schedule, not yours. However, the advantage is that you will be going
with someone who knows local conditions and driving laws (you hope!).

If you are thinking of actually renting a car with other travellers, again
you have to find the right travellers! And the decision making may be tricky;
at least if someone is offering a ride they know where they are going so there
is less question about where and when to go.

.....Ed
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