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Lee Meadowcroft:
> We are doing a fly/drive to Ontraio in September this year. Our flight
> will arrive in Toronto on 31st Aug and we will be flying home again on
> 13th Sep. ...

For your planning convenience, note that the first Monday in September
(this year, Sep. 1) is a holiday and therefore a busy travel day.

For your searching convenience, note that Niagara has three A's, like
Canada.

Since I live here I have little experience with staying in hotels here,
but for Toronto, if you're interested in a hotel that wasn't built in
the last 25 years, you might consider the Fairmont Royal York. It has
a decent reputation, a good location (it's the city's old railway hotel,
across the street from Union Station), and I do know that the public
areas such as the lobby are attractive.
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> For your planning convenience, note that the first Monday in September
> (this year, Sep. 1) is a holiday and therefore a busy travel day.
>
> For your searching convenience, note that Niagara has three A's, like
> Canada.


Thanks for the advice. Is it only the 1st Sep that's a holiday i.e.
everyone back to work/school on the 2nd? In which case I will arrive
31st, stay in Toronto 1st and 2nd and drive to Niagara Falls on 3rd.

Where abouts do you live? Toronto itself or on the outskirts? We're
actually having our honeymoon there as a bit of a reconnaissance
because we hope to emigrate to Canada in a few years. We're actually
keen on Ottawa and are thinking somewhere between there and Toronto.
We'd like to see some of the smaller towns as well as the big cities
during our visit. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me a bit about
the place.

Many Thanks,

Lee
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On Jan 21, 8:17 am, Lee <leemeadowcr....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are doing a fly/drive to Ontraio in September this year. Our flight
> will arrive in Toronto on 31st Aug and we will be flying home again on
> 13th Sep. During our visit we would like to stay a few nights each in
> Toronto, Niagra Falls, Ottawa, Montreal and maybe the odd night in
> between.
>
> Are there any hotels that you would suggest we stay in or that we
> should specifically avoid. This is our honeymoon and whilst we would
> like to stay in some top quality hotels, we do have a budget. For
> every impressive hotel we stay at there has to be a reasonably priced
> one to offset the costs.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Lee

Check out the fall road trips in and around Toronto to Ottawa area
expecially Algonquin park on this website http://www.400eleven.com/colour-report-algonquin-park.html
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We like to live close (commuting distance maybe?) to a city but we
enjoy the outdoors. To give an example, we currently live 15 miles (30
minutes drive) outside of Manchester, UK but we are only 5 minutes
drive from the countryside. We take holidays every year in the Lake
District which is very picturesc and on The Isle of Wight which has
beautiful beaches and countryside.

So we're looking for somewhere with a population of tens to hundreds
of thousands and not millions. We're a young family so would like a
nice place to bring up children. We quite like the idea of ottawa with
it being a bilingual city.

I'm a Structural Engineer and my wife-to-be is a student midwife.
We'll both be fully qualified by the time we look to emigrate.
Obvioulsy we need to be in a location where we have no problem getting
employment.

As for our honeymoon later this year. We want to get a good feel for
the place, we've read lots about it but it's never the same as
visiting a place. We would like to visit the major cities and see the
sights but at the same time we would like to get out of the cities and
see how we like the more rural areas. This isn't a house hunting visit
or anything like that, although she would like to think of it that
way. I'm sure between now and actually moving there we will have made
a number of visits but this visit will hopefully narrow down our
search for our ideal family home.
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Lee wrote:
>> For your planning convenience, note that the first Monday in September
>> (this year, Sep. 1) is a holiday and therefore a busy travel day.
>>
>> For your searching convenience, note that Niagara has three A's, like
>> Canada.
>
>
> Thanks for the advice. Is it only the 1st Sep that's a holiday i.e.
> everyone back to work/school on the 2nd? In which case I will arrive
> 31st, stay in Toronto 1st and 2nd and drive to Niagara Falls on 3rd.
>
> Where abouts do you live? Toronto itself or on the outskirts? We're
> actually having our honeymoon there as a bit of a reconnaissance
> because we hope to emigrate to Canada in a few years. We're actually
> keen on Ottawa and are thinking somewhere between there and Toronto.
> We'd like to see some of the smaller towns as well as the big cities
> during our visit. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me a bit about
> the place.

Mon. Sep. 1st is the Labour day holiday. You can be sure places like
the airport will be very busy when you arrive as people return from
vacations. By Tuesday students are back in school for another year and
businesses are ramping up after the staff have taken summer holidays.
Your trip to Niagara Falls will be much less hectic than it would have
been the week before.

As to "towns" between Ottawa and Toronto - you should specify the size
you are interested in - Smaller cities such as Peterborough, Belleville,
or Kingston might fit your bill but much smaller places like Trenton or
Napanee might be what you are thinking of.

What type of place do you have in mind? Activities, services,
employment... etc.





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In article <f943f3b1-3747-4d45-ab4b-897d351f15c3 DeleteThis @d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Lee <leemeadowcroft DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> For your planning convenience, note that the first Monday in September
>> (this year, Sep. 1) is a holiday and therefore a busy travel day.
>>
>> For your searching convenience, note that Niagara has three A's, like
>> Canada.
>
>
>Thanks for the advice. Is it only the 1st Sep that's a holiday i.e.
>everyone back to work/school on the 2nd? In which case I will arrive
>31st, stay in Toronto 1st and 2nd and drive to Niagara Falls on 3rd.

That's sensible. There's plenty to do in Toronto on the Labour Day weekend,
and holiday traffic will be bad.

Saturday mornings you may be interested in visiting St. Lawrence Market to see
the fresh fruits and vegetables available from local sources. Peaches, plums,
grapes, carrots, beets, blueberries, etc. However, on Sunday it's an antiques
market.

I recommend that you visit the Canadian National Exhibition. The Air Show is
on during Labour Day weekend and if you have an interest in this sort of thing,
it's basically included with your CNE admission.

Make sure you visit the CN tower in the afternoon, so you see the view by day
and then by night.

>Where abouts do you live? Toronto itself or on the outskirts? We're
>actually having our honeymoon there as a bit of a reconnaissance
>because we hope to emigrate to Canada in a few years. We're actually
>keen on Ottawa and are thinking somewhere between there and Toronto.
>We'd like to see some of the smaller towns as well as the big cities
>during our visit. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me a bit about
>the place.

Peterborough and Kingston are the biggest cities between Toronto and Ottawa.
Peterborough has a lot of manufacturing and a university, while Kingston is
more of a government plus university town. Smaller cities include Belleville
and Trenton. There are plenty of smaller towns that were settled back in the
1800s which time has mostly forgot, but I'm not sure that you would want to
settle in the more isolated ones. Belleville and Trenton are somewhat
bilingual, Kingston less so, and Peterborough almost not at all as far as I
have noticed.

A lot of the countryside between Toronto and Ottawa is on the rocky, swampy
Canadian Shield. Some of it is rolling glacial topography of moraines and
drumlins. Plus there's the Lake Ontario shoreline which has a lot of small
towns and cities strung along it. Almost all date from pioneer days, some back
to the United Empire Loyalists in the late 1700s.

Note that the strip between Toronto and Ottawa is 400 km long and 50-60 km
so that's a lot of territory. Your reconnaissance will be pretty preliminary.
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:17:08 -0800 (PST), Lee
<leemeadowcroft RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>We are doing a fly/drive to Ontraio in September this year. Our flight
>will arrive in Toronto on 31st Aug and we will be flying home again on
>13th Sep. During our visit we would like to stay a few nights each in
>Toronto, Niagra Falls, Ottawa, Montreal and maybe the odd night in
>between.
>
>Are there any hotels that you would suggest we stay in or that we
>should specifically avoid. This is our honeymoon and whilst we would
>like to stay in some top quality hotels, we do have a budget. For
>every impressive hotel we stay at there has to be a reasonably priced
>one to offset the costs.
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Lee

You might enjoy Niagara-on-the-Lake. It's an old town with a number of
interesting places. There's a Shaw Festival Theater but I don't know
how late in the season they go.

This is the place we stayed. It was in a good location. We aren't big
on B&B's and this isn't one but it is a small hotel with sort of that
feel that is supposedly haunted although we didn't see a ghost.

http://www.angel-inn.com/
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Brian wrote:

> tYou might enjoy Niagara-on-the-Lake. It's an old town with a number of
> interesting places. There's a Shaw Festival Theater but I don't know
> how late in the season they go.
>

The theatre seasons runs up to early November.


>
> This is the place we stayed. It was in a good location. We aren't big
> on B&B's and this isn't one but it is a small hotel with sort of that
> feel that is supposedly haunted although we didn't see a ghost.
>
> http://www.angel-inn.com/
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On Jan 22, 9:48 pm, etre....RemoveThis@europa.algorithmics.com (Ed Treijs) wrote:
> In article <f943f3b1-3747-4d45-ab4b-897d351f1....RemoveThis@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Lee  <leemeadowcr....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> For your planning convenience, note that the first Monday in September
> >> (this year, Sep. 1) is a holiday and therefore a busy travel day.
>
> >> For your searching convenience, note that Niagara has three A's, like
> >> Canada.
>
> >Thanks for the advice. Is it only the 1st Sep that's a holiday i.e.
> >everyone back to work/school on the 2nd? In which case I will arrive
> >31st, stay in Toronto 1st and 2nd and drive to Niagara Falls on 3rd.
>
> That's sensible.  There's plenty to do in Toronto on the Labour Day weekend,
> and holiday traffic will be bad.
>
> Saturday mornings you may be interested in visiting St. Lawrence Market to see
> the fresh fruits and vegetables available from local sources.  Peaches, plums,
> grapes, carrots, beets, blueberries, etc.  However, on Sunday it's an antiques
> market.
>
> I recommend that you visit the Canadian National Exhibition. The Air Show is
> on during Labour Day weekend and if you have an interest in this sort of thing,
> it's basically included with your CNE admission.
>
> Make sure you visit the CN tower in the afternoon, so you see the view by day
> and then by night.
>
> >Where abouts do you live? Toronto itself or on the outskirts? We're
> >actually having our honeymoon there as a bit of a reconnaissance
> >because we hope to emigrate to Canada in a few years. We're actually
> >keen on Ottawa and are thinking somewhere between there and Toronto.
> >We'd like to see some of the smaller towns as well as the big cities
> >during our visit. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me a bit about
> >the place.
>
> Peterborough and Kingston are the biggest cities between Toronto and Ottawa.
> Peterborough has a lot of manufacturing and a university, while Kingston is
> more of a government plus university town.  Smaller cities include Belleville
> and Trenton.  There are plenty of smaller towns that were settled back in the
> 1800s which time has mostly forgot, but I'm not sure that you would want to
> settle in the more isolated ones. Belleville and Trenton are somewhat
> bilingual, Kingston less so, and Peterborough almost not at all as far as I
> have noticed.
>
> A lot of the countryside between Toronto and Ottawa is on the rocky, swampy
> Canadian Shield. Some of it is rolling glacial topography of moraines and
> drumlins. Plus there's the Lake Ontario shoreline which has a lot of small
> towns and cities strung along it.  Almost all date from pioneer days, some back
> to the United Empire Loyalists in the late 1700s.
>
> Note that the strip between Toronto and Ottawa is 400 km long and 50-60 km
> so that's a lot of territory.  Your reconnaissance will be pretty preliminary.

Thanks for your post, very informative. I appreciate my first visit
will be very preliminary but you have to start somewhere. We'd like to
see some of the major cities and get a feel for the country during our
first visit (traditions and culture, beauty, the people and that sort
of thing) and whilst driving between places we will stop off and have
a look at some of the smaller places and take in some of the
countryside. Just that corridor between Toronto and Ottawa, maybe
stretching to Montreal, is not much smaller than the UK (and a lot
less populated!).
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I've started to finalise my route as follows, haven't decided on
places to stay yet because I need to decide on my budget:

Sun - Arrive 17:00
Sun/Mon - Toronto
Tue/Wed - Niagara Falls
Wed - Nr Toronto
Thu - Nr Algonquin
Fri/Sat/Sun - Ottawa
Mon/Tue - Montreal
Wed- Nr Kingston
Thu - Nr Belleville / Prince Edward
Fri - Toronto (Meal booked at 360 restaurant)
Sat - Depart 19:00

Any thoughts on this?
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Thanks for all the excellent tips so far, it's starting to come
together. I will take on board your comments and have another look at
my route tonight when I get home. I'm trying to make it a circular
trip so I see a bit more of the open road. Initially I had Toronto-
>Niagara->Toronto->Ottawa->Montreal->Ottawa->Toronto but it was far
too linear. Adding in Algonquin and Belleville gives me a bit more
variety, not too sure about Kingston, think I might drop that in
favour of somewhere else. We plan to stop of during the journeys and
see a few other places en route anyway. Thanks again for the advice
and keep the places to stay and places to visit coming.
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Lee wrote:

> I've started to finalise my route as follows, haven't decided on
> places to stay yet because I need to decide on my budget:
>
> Sun - Arrive 17:00
> Sun/Mon - Toronto
> Tue/Wed - Niagara Falls
> Wed - Nr Toronto
> Thu - Nr Algonquin
> Fri/Sat/Sun - Ottawa
> Mon/Tue - Montreal
> Wed- Nr Kingston
> Thu - Nr Belleville / Prince Edward
> Fri - Toronto (Meal booked at 360 restaurant)
> Sat - Depart 19:00
>
> Any thoughts on this?

Just a few thoughts. Niagara Falls is about 1 1/2 drive from Toronto.
Rather than spending 3/4 of an hour to get to a downtown hotel, getting
settled, unpacking and then having to pack again, go directly to
Niagara Falls and get the travel out of the way. That gives you a travel
free day in Niagara and saves the hassles of checking into one more
hotel.
I am not sure of the advantages of visiting Kingston and Belleville,
but there is an interesting air force museum in Trenton.

There are some nice resorts in Algonquin, but they tend to be quite
expensive. You migh consider grabbing a hotel in Huntsville, which is
about 25 miles from the park. It is beautiful in Algonquin in September,
so long as it is not raining. If the weather turns foul you might want
to scrub that leg, though the drive up from Orillia on is quite
scenic. Just as a suggestion,. you might find it interesting to swing
over by Midland and see Ste. Marie Among the Huron.

Montreal is a nice city and one of the most economical cities to visit
because there are lots of good deals on hotels and you can get great
meals for very reasonable prices. All in all, it seems like a lot of
driving over a short period.of time. If you spend extra time in
Montreal or Toronto you can skip Kingston and Belleville. Perhaps you
could just get an early start and stop at those spots along the way. It
is a 5-6 hour drive from Montreal to Toronto.
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>
>> I've started to finalise my route as follows, haven't decided on
>> places to stay yet because I need to decide on my budget:
>>
>> Sun - Arrive 17:00
>> Sun/Mon - Toronto
>> Tue/Wed - Niagara Falls
>> Wed - Nr Toronto
>> Thu - Nr Algonquin
>> Fri/Sat/Sun - Ottawa
>> Mon/Tue - Montreal
>> Wed- Nr Kingston
>> Thu - Nr Belleville / Prince Edward
>> Fri - Toronto (Meal booked at 360 restaurant)
>> Sat - Depart 19:00
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Just a few thoughts. Niagara Falls is about 1 1/2 drive from Toronto.
> Rather than spending 3/4 of an hour to get to a downtown hotel, getting
> settled, unpacking and then having to pack again, go directly to
> Niagara Falls and get the travel out of the way. That gives you a travel
> free day in Niagara and saves the hassles of checking into one more
> hotel.
> I am not sure of the advantages of visiting Kingston and Belleville,
> but there is an interesting air force museum in Trenton.
>
> There are some nice resorts in Algonquin, but they tend to be quite
> expensive. You migh consider grabbing a hotel in Huntsville, which is
> about 25 miles from the park. It is beautiful in Algonquin in September,
> so long as it is not raining. If the weather turns foul you might want
> to scrub that leg, though the drive up from Orillia on is quite
> scenic. Just as a suggestion,. you might find it interesting to swing
> over by Midland and see Ste. Marie Among the Huron.
>
> Montreal is a nice city and one of the most economical cities to visit
> because there are lots of good deals on hotels and you can get great
> meals for very reasonable prices. All in all, it seems like a lot of
> driving over a short period.of time. If you spend extra time in
> Montreal or Toronto you can skip Kingston and Belleville. Perhaps you
> could just get an early start and stop at those spots along the way. It
> is a 5-6 hour drive from Montreal to Toronto.
>

I was going to say much the same things Dave has said - good advice.
The only problem might be that Niagara Falls may be very booked up on
Sunday as it is the holiday weekend - better check that if you decide to
go there first.







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