PCH (CA1) in March

"Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
> <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><IClast.RemoveThis@jps.net> wrote in message
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>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>
>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>> Barbara.
>>
>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the road,
>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>referred
>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>
> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
> someone, probably a newcomer.
>
>
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> ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway. I have lived
with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to it as 1 or
the coast highway.
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"Calif Bill" <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>> <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><IClast.RemoveThis@jps.net> wrote in message
>>>news:fd1a35ac-5744-4942-ad2a-cb159f35ab7b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>>
>>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>>> Barbara.
>>>
>>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the road,
>>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>>referred
>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>
>> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
>> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
>> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
>> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
>> someone, probably a newcomer.
>>
>>
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>> ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
>> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
>> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
>
> And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway. I have
> lived with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to it
> as 1 or the coast highway.
>
No doubt, you have also always referred to your Johnson as "Jumbo". Your
wife begs to differ.
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"sharx35" <sharx35 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Calif Bill" <bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>> "Hatunen" <hatunen RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:uheiq3tutqj94h4n4akuh1eupt1svp1gea@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>>> <bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><IClast RemoveThis @jps.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:fd1a35ac-5744-4942-ad2a-cb159f35ab7b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>>>> Barbara.
>>>>
>>>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the
>>>>road,
>>>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>>>referred
>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>
>>> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
>>> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
>>> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
>>> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
>>> someone, probably a newcomer.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
>>> * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
>>> * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
>>
>> And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway. I have
>> lived with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to
>> it as 1 or the coast highway.
>>
> No doubt, you have also always referred to your Johnson as "Jumbo". Your
> wife begs to differ.
>
>
>

Basing the rest of the people on your experiences is not wise.
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:41:06 -0800, "Calif Bill"
<bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:

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>"Hatunen" <hatunen RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>> <bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><IClast RemoveThis @jps.net> wrote in message
>>>news:fd1a35ac-5744-4942-ad2a-cb159f35ab7b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>>
>>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>>> Barbara.
>>>
>>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the road,
>>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>>referred
>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>
>> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
>> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
>> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
>> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
>> someone, probably a newcomer.
>>
>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.

Since I never mentioned the Cabrillo Highway I'm not sure why you
did.

I have lived
>with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to it as 1 or
>the coast highway.

Right. But not as Pacific Coast Highway.


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"Hatunen" <hatunen RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:41:06 -0800, "Calif Bill"
> <bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Hatunen" <hatunen RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:uheiq3tutqj94h4n4akuh1eupt1svp1gea@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>>> <bmckeespam RemoveThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><IClast RemoveThis @jps.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:fd1a35ac-5744-4942-ad2a-cb159f35ab7b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>>>> Barbara.
>>>>
>>>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the
>>>>road,
>>>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>>>referred
>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>
>>> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
>>> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
>>> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
>>> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
>>> someone, probably a newcomer.
>>>
>>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.
>
> Since I never mentioned the Cabrillo Highway I'm not sure why you
> did.
>
> I have lived
>>with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to it as 1
>>or
>>the coast highway.
>
> Right. But not as Pacific Coast Highway.


Nope, Atlantic Coast highway. ;>) Lots of people call it the PCH. Just
see how many you have brow beat on this newsgroup alone.
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:35:16 -0800, "Calif Bill"
<bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>
>"Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:41:06 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>> <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:uheiq3tutqj94h4n4akuh1eupt1svp1gea@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:21:41 -0800, "Calif Bill"
>>>> <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><IClast.RemoveThis@jps.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:fd1a35ac-5744-4942-ad2a-cb159f35ab7b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> The trip I take, and recommend to others, is described on the page of
>>>>>> DRIVING DIRECTIONS at the TouringSFO site at
>>>>>> http://geocities.com/touringsfo/
>>>>>> and further detailed in the report "A Trip to Anaheim..." inked to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Hatunen pointed out, you won't be near the PCH until you get to
>>>>>> Oxnard, about 330 miles from San Francisco's City Hall, beyond Santa
>>>>>> Barbara.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the History Channel they had a special on building the coast highway.
>>>>>The point out that the PCH is really only the far south part of the
>>>>>road,
>>>>>but the whole route to Washington State from California is commonly
>>>>>referred
>>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently by people who don't live along it. I spent sixteen
>>>> years living within a mile or so of CA-1, and using parts of it
>>>> every day, and I heard no one in the SF Bay ever, ever refer to
>>>> it as "Pacific Coast Highway". But somewhere there was probably
>>>> someone, probably a newcomer.
>>>>
>>>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.
>>
>> Since I never mentioned the Cabrillo Highway I'm not sure why you
>> did.
>>
>> I have lived
>>>with in 10-40 miles of it for 63 years, and we always referred to it as 1
>>>or
>>>the coast highway.
>>
>> Right. But not as Pacific Coast Highway.
>
>
>Nope, Atlantic Coast highway. ;>) Lots of people call it the PCH. Just
>see how many you have brow beat on this newsgroup alone.

I would agree that it is the Pacific coast Highway. But the
subject line shows PCH in caps.

Apparently even the History Channel knows what's right.

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In article <13qt38frq7v0taf.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
Calif Bill <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>"Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.

Excepting the state designated number of '1', I think that you guys
can't expect naming to run the entire length. Increasingly, sections of
the various same numbered roadways are getting designated dedications
and namings. The same continous stretch of road will take on different
names as time goes on.

I grew up near the PCH as well, but then I've seen names changes in
Europe after single blocks.

It's change: get used to it.

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On 11 Feb 2008 09:57:14 -0800, eugene DeleteThis @cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
wrote:

>In article <13qt38frq7v0taf DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
>Calif Bill <bmckeespam DeleteThis @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>"Hatunen" <hatunen DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:g77sq3l14veor76puood2frhkgal85ago5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.
>
>Excepting the state designated number of '1', I think that you guys
>can't expect naming to run the entire length. Increasingly, sections of
>the various same numbered roadways are getting designated dedications
>and namings. The same continous stretch of road will take on different
>names as time goes on.

In he cadse of the Pacific Coast Highway, CA-1 to Oxnard, and the
Cabrillo Highway, CA-1 from near Santa Barbara to the San
Francisco county line, the names are prescribed in the California
Streets and Highways Code. Locally, different communities have
diffeent local names for them, but the "master" name remains.

>I grew up near the PCH as well, but then I've seen names changes in
>Europe after single blocks.

Not to belabor the obvious, but this isn't Europe.

>It's change: get used to it.

It's not change unless the state asembly decides it is.

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In article <oka1r3tdj64frsk4fndahqh1g7ckr0htjl DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
Hatunen <hatunen DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>On 11 Feb 2008 09:57:14 -0800, eugene DeleteThis @cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
>wrote:
>>>>>>>to as the Pacific Coast Highway.
>>>>>And who the hell ever referred to it as the Cabrillo highway.
>>and namings. The same continous stretch of road will take on different
>>names as time goes on.
>
>In he cadse of the Pacific Coast Highway, CA-1 to Oxnard, and the
the case?
>Cabrillo Highway, CA-1 from near Santa Barbara to the San
>Francisco county line, the names are prescribed in the California
>Streets and Highways Code. Locally, different communities have
>diffeent local names for them, but the "master" name remains.

Assimilate numbers. Resistance is futile.

>>I grew up near the PCH as well, but then I've seen names changes in
>>Europe after single blocks.
>
>Not to belabor the obvious, but this isn't Europe.

Just watch.
It's a trend.
Coming to a town near you.

>>It's change: get used to it.
>
>It's not change unless the state asembly decides it is.

The last I saw, towns controlled street names, not State Assemblies.
I saw numerous streets dually named in SF last evening.

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On 12 Feb 2008 14:03:07 -0800, eugene DeleteThis @cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
wrote:

>In article <oka1r3tdj64frsk4fndahqh1g7ckr0htjl DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
>Hatunen <hatunen DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>>On 11 Feb 2008 09:57:14 -0800, eugene DeleteThis @cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya)
>>wrote:
>>>It's change: get used to it.
>>
>>It's not change unless the state asembly decides it is.
>
>The last I saw, towns controlled street names, not State Assemblies.
>I saw numerous streets dually named in SF last evening.

It's the highway that the legislature named, not the streets.

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