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 > Sydney - 45 night(s)

Hostels in AUS - about 20 AUD per night in a shared room. A few places can
be as cheap as 11-12 AUD and some places costs 25 AUD but most places costs
approx. 20 AUD

Whitsunday cruise - 3 days, approx 300 AUD
Blue Mountains (Sydney - 1 day trip), approx 30-40 AUD
Entrance wild life parks, zoo etc, 10-20 AUD

We spent about 2500 AUD each per month in Australia for accommodation, food,
trips etc.

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in article 40ba41a6$0$23116$ba624c82@nntp05.dk.telia.net, RH at
robin DeleteThis @stofanet.dk wrote on 5/30/04 5:19 PM:

 >
  >> Sydney - 45 night(s)
 >
 > Hostels in AUS - about 20 AUD per night in a shared room. A few places can
 > be as cheap as 11-12 AUD and some places costs 25 AUD but most places costs
 > approx. 20 AUD
 >
 > Whitsunday cruise - 3 days, approx 300 AUD
 > Blue Mountains (Sydney - 1 day trip), approx 30-40 AUD
 > Entrance wild life parks, zoo etc, 10-20 AUD
 >
 > We spent about 2500 AUD each per month in Australia for accommodation, food,
 > trips etc.
 >
 > /Sanne
 >
 >

3 nights in SYD itself are MORE than enough (some disagree, but I really
don't much like the place, as opposed to the bush which I adore - not Bush,
bush; there's a big difference). Australian costs are a little like "how
long is a piece of string." The "Tyranny of Distance," to use a tired term,
is alive and well and transport will be a major factor in the cost of your
trip. Don't scrimp in this regard. Bob Hawke may have been right in
calling Australia "very centrally located - it takes you two days to get
there from anywhere," but it is one magnificent continent with people to
match. You will get a decent introduction to the place if you don't try to
see too much in a month and a half - but get out of the cities and explore.

A 5 day tour around the centre (far too little time, but an introduction to
the highlights) will run you around AUD$500. Check out the backpacker
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 >
 > 3 nights in SYD itself are MORE than enough (some disagree, but I really
 > don't much like the place, as opposed to the bush which I adore - not
Bush,
 > bush; there's a big difference).

I asume that he means 45 days in AUS - not in Sydney alone <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Yes i planned on traveling around.

Correct, if it were Syd alone it would have been 5 days tops
as per all the USA cities.

Mark


"RH" <robin.DeleteThis@stofanet.dk> wrote in message
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>
>
> >
> > 3 nights in SYD itself are MORE than enough (some disagree, but I really
> > don't much like the place, as opposed to the bush which I adore - not
> Bush,
> > bush; there's a big difference).
>
> I asume that he means 45 days in AUS - not in Sydney alone
>
>
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On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:28:07 +0100, "The Other One" <arewgr.TakeThisOut@qwref.com>
wrote:

 >Does anyone know how much to budget for a RTW tour?
 >
 >Not touching Europe and not staying long in the US.
 >Mostly Asia and S-America and Australia.
 >215 Days in total. Air fare is already sorted.
 >
 >Just need a guess for accommodation, food and trips etc etc

In 1978-79, I spent one year in Africa. I hitch-hiked from San Diego
to New York, flew to London, then hitched to Morocco and the
Camerouns, then flew to Kenya and went North to Egypt, then back to
Europe and home. The entire year cost me exactly $10/day, including
transportation and everything.
In 1983-85, I spent two years traveling across the Pacific to India
and back, through Tahiti, Fiji, NZ, Aus, and SE Asia. That trip cost
~$20/day, excluding the original ticket to Aus.

If you can do it for less than $40/day today, I'd be surprised.

One way to figure costs is to look in the Lonely Planet guides for
each area. Check out cheap hotel prices, local restaurants, buses,
etc. I think you could come up with a good estimate of your costs.
For example: my 1996 guide to Peru says you can do Peru on $10 to
$15/day, but most budget travelers spend ~$20/day.

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Thanks,


Well thats sounds promising.
I had accounted for about $80 a day but i am
going to a few more expensive areas like US and Aust so might balance out.

Mark




"Turby" <turbosurfer.RemoveThis@beach.comber> wrote in message
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 > On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:28:07 +0100, "The Other One" <arewgr.RemoveThis@qwref.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >Does anyone know how much to budget for a RTW tour?
  > >
  > >Not touching Europe and not staying long in the US.
  > >Mostly Asia and S-America and Australia.
  > >215 Days in total. Air fare is already sorted.
  > >
  > >Just need a guess for accommodation, food and trips etc etc
 >
 > In 1978-79, I spent one year in Africa. I hitch-hiked from San Diego
 > to New York, flew to London, then hitched to Morocco and the
 > Camerouns, then flew to Kenya and went North to Egypt, then back to
 > Europe and home. The entire year cost me exactly $10/day, including
 > transportation and everything.
 > In 1983-85, I spent two years traveling across the Pacific to India
 > and back, through Tahiti, Fiji, NZ, Aus, and SE Asia. That trip cost
 > ~$20/day, excluding the original ticket to Aus.
 >
 > If you can do it for less than $40/day today, I'd be surprised.
 >
 > One way to figure costs is to look in the Lonely Planet guides for
 > each area. Check out cheap hotel prices, local restaurants, buses,
 > etc. I think you could come up with a good estimate of your costs.
 > For example: my 1996 guide to Peru says you can do Peru on $10 to
 > $15/day, but most budget travelers spend ~$20/day.
 >
 > Turby the Turbosurfer<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I agree with Turby's comments, with one caveat: DO NOT OBSESS about always
taking the cheapest option, pinching every penny/yen/euro/bolivar/etc. You
are taking the trip of a lifetime and if you concentrate only on budget, you
will see nothing, do nothing, experience nothing except day old scraps.
Sure, you can and should be conscious of your expenses and nobody's saying
you have to ignore the ticket prices (I tend to be "tight as the bark on a
tree," in one colleague's eloquent turn of phrase) - but live a little even
if it means cutting out a month or a destination or three. Better to do a
few places right than a lot of places not at all - unless you are just going
for bragging rights.




in article 2z8vc.281$ku2.191@pathologist.blueyonder.net, The Other One at
arewgr RemoveThis @qwref.com wrote on 6/1/04 8:46 PM:

 > Thanks,
 >
 >
 > Well thats sounds promising.
 > I had accounted for about $80 a day but i am
 > going to a few more expensive areas like US and Aust so might balance out.
 >
 > Mark
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "Turby" <turbosurfer RemoveThis @beach.comber> wrote in message
 > news:3ubnb0l7n85o6gp9haojsuhfsqa5cuafnh@4ax.com...
  >> On Sat, 29 May 2004 11:28:07 +0100, "The Other One" <arewgr RemoveThis @qwref.com>
  >> wrote:
  >>
   >>> Does anyone know how much to budget for a RTW tour?
   >>>
   >>> Not touching Europe and not staying long in the US.
   >>> Mostly Asia and S-America and Australia.
   >>> 215 Days in total. Air fare is already sorted.
   >>>
   >>> Just need a guess for accommodation, food and trips etc etc
  >>
  >> In 1978-79, I spent one year in Africa. I hitch-hiked from San Diego
  >> to New York, flew to London, then hitched to Morocco and the
  >> Camerouns, then flew to Kenya and went North to Egypt, then back to
  >> Europe and home. The entire year cost me exactly $10/day, including
  >> transportation and everything.
  >> In 1983-85, I spent two years traveling across the Pacific to India
  >> and back, through Tahiti, Fiji, NZ, Aus, and SE Asia. That trip cost
  >> ~$20/day, excluding the original ticket to Aus.
  >>
  >> If you can do it for less than $40/day today, I'd be surprised.
  >>
  >> One way to figure costs is to look in the Lonely Planet guides for
  >> each area. Check out cheap hotel prices, local restaurants, buses,
  >> etc. I think you could come up with a good estimate of your costs.
  >> For example: my 1996 guide to Peru says you can do Peru on $10 to
  >> $15/day, but most budget travelers spend ~$20/day.
  >>
  >> Turby the Turbosurfer
 >
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:50:40 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
<walkabout.TakeThisOut@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREPLY.ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

 >I agree with Turby's comments, with one caveat: DO NOT OBSESS about always
 >taking the cheapest option, pinching every penny/yen/euro/bolivar/etc. You
 >are taking the trip of a lifetime and if you concentrate only on budget, you
 >will see nothing, do nothing, experience nothing except day old scraps.
 >Sure, you can and should be conscious of your expenses and nobody's saying
 >you have to ignore the ticket prices (I tend to be "tight as the bark on a
 >tree," in one colleague's eloquent turn of phrase) - but live a little even
 >if it means cutting out a month or a destination or three. Better to do a
 >few places right than a lot of places not at all - unless you are just going
 >for bragging rights.

Amen, sort of. If you focus too much on budget, you certainly can see,
do, and experience things, but it isn't the best way to travel. On the
Africa trip, I hitch-hiked across the Sahara Desert. It's the one
adventure I'm least proud of, because I _should_ have paid something.
And it wouldn't have taken much to make things right.

In Morocco one time, I decided I wanted to get to the next town, come
hell or high water. I hiked to the edge of town and waited for a
vehicle - bus, truck, whatever. Nothing. Dark came, and it got spooky.
It was a bad part of town, and several shady characters had already
checked me out. It was over two miles back to the nearest hotel. When
lights started going out, and people were going to bed, I knew I was
stuck. I found an empty and clean dumpster to sleep in. During the
night, I heard people moving about and whispering, and figured they
were looking for the white tourist with the backpack. Buying a
reserved ticket at the bus station would have been so much nicer.

OTOH, hitch-hiking is one of the cheapest and best ways to travel.
There is no better way to meet locals. You'll spend hours getting to
know them, and they're usually eager to share local information. And
if you have any charm at all, you'll get invited into people's homes.
(Canadians excepted, of course.)

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Hi:

Quite an eclectic itinerary!

I live in the U.S., so I'll comment on that portion of your trip (or a
portion of that portion...)

First of all, while you've made some good choices of big, important,
distinctive cities, you've also picked some of the most EXPENSIVE
places in the U.S. to travel (or live, for that matter) - particularly
New York and Boston.

On the other hand, Vega$ - IF YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR GAMBLING - can be
one of the best bargain cities to visit. Good, clean accomodations
can be found for cheap, and if you travel at the right time of year
and week (say, summer, Sun-Thurs), you can stay in one of the mega
properties on the Strip for less than $50/night - might be worth it
for a splurge.

Food is likewise cheap and plentiful - and sometimes even free (check
out some of the outrageous offers by the casinos to get you inside -
coupons and "fun books" can be great freebie scores). The buffets can
be inexpensive and spectacular, and very occasionally, both.

Entertainment is everywhere, and also often free. Erupting volcanos,
dancing fountains, talking statues, albino jungle cats - and, of
course, the constant parade of humanity acting like school has just
let out for the summer. Lounge acts, gaming classes, factory tours -
the list goes on.

New York, Boston, and Los Angeles are all definitely worth a visit...

....but Vega$ won't look like anywhere else on earth.

Enjoy,

Todd
www.wonderninja.com
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