Smoking on Cruises

A Carnival cruise line representative mentioned to me that they
operated a cruise ship that was exclusively non smoking ~1997. They
could not keep the boat booked so they abandoned the non smoking
policy in favor of bookings. I wonder how this would work today. My
money would be on the non smoking boats.

Miss Ellie wrote:
> A travel agent in St Louis told me there is going to be no smoking on
> any ship by the first of the year. Has anyone else heard that?
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I light up my stoggie, on deck and on the balcony, nobody seems yo care)I'm
asenior)
"pdevoy" <pmdevoy DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>A Carnival cruise line representative mentioned to me that they
> operated a cruise ship that was exclusively non smoking ~1997. They
> could not keep the boat booked so they abandoned the non smoking
> policy in favor of bookings. I wonder how this would work today. My
> money would be on the non smoking boats.
>
> Miss Ellie wrote:
>> A travel agent in St Louis told me there is going to be no smoking on
>> any ship by the first of the year. Has anyone else heard that?
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:52 -0500, "clint" <bocarsm.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I light up my stoggie, on deck and on the balcony, nobody seems yo care)I'm
>asenior)

How do you know nobody cares? Sometimes the stench can't be traced and
if you are smoking in an allowed area, what can people who object do?
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:11:38 -0600, Miss Ellie <ellie.TakeThisOut@herbstein.com> wrote:

> A travel agent in St Louis told me there is going to be no smoking on
> any ship by the first of the year. Has anyone else heard that?

I wish!!!
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"Miss Ellie" <ellie.RemoveThis@herbstein.com> wrote in message
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>A travel agent in St Louis told me there is going to be no smoking on any
>ship by the first of the year. Has anyone else heard that?

In his (and our) dreams.
Although the Carnival experiment with a non-smoking ship didn't work 10
years ago, I wonder if it would now.
I'm surprised, as an alternative, that the cruise lines have never tied a
"no smoking" theme on alternate departure dates of their routine 7/10/14-day
pop[lar runs such as Akaska, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera....
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In article <4g3vj.29052$dA2.12292@read2.cgocable.net>,
"Duncan Craig" <duncan.donut DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:

> "Miss Ellie" <ellie DeleteThis @herbstein.com> wrote in message
> news:DTMuj.2225$fX7.1697@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >A travel agent in St Louis told me there is going to be no smoking on any
> >ship by the first of the year. Has anyone else heard that?
>
> In his (and our) dreams.
> Although the Carnival experiment with a non-smoking ship didn't work 10
> years ago, I wonder if it would now.
> I'm surprised, as an alternative, that the cruise lines have never tied a
> "no smoking" theme on alternate departure dates of their routine 7/10/14-day
> pop[lar runs such as Akaska, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera....

I don't know if it will or won't work. But I can say that since the 1st
of the year, after the smoking bans went in place in Illinois, our local
bars and restaurants are reporting a 20% decrease in business.

And the casino layed off quite a few that they said was because of the
no smoking rules.
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"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons DeleteThis @mac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4g3vj.29052$dA2.12292@read2.cgocable.net>,
> "Duncan Craig" <duncan.donut DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised, as an alternative, that the cruise lines have never tied
a
>> "no smoking" theme on alternate departure dates of their routine
>> 7/10/14-day
>> pop[lar runs such as Akaska, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera....
>
> I don't know if it will or won't work. But I can say that since the 1st
> of the year, after the smoking bans went in place in Illinois, our local
> bars and restaurants are reporting a 20% decrease in business.
>
> And the casino layed off quite a few that they said was because of the
> no smoking rules.

Hi Lloyd

Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban on
smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars are
just as busy now as they ever were.

The smoking public, including our son, just go outside when they feel they
need a smoke.

Tobie>>>>on an Island in the Pacific
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In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>, Tobie Gerbrandt
<chezbull RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote:

> Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban on
> smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars are
> just as busy now as they ever were.

The bars and restaurants in my area have gained business since smoking
was banned.

--
Charles
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In article <210220080611237053%fort@his.com.remove.invalid>,
Charles <fort.TakeThisOut@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:

> In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>, Tobie Gerbrandt
> <chezbull.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban
> > on
> > smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars
> > are
> > just as busy now as they ever were.
>
> The bars and restaurants in my area have gained business since smoking
> was banned.

FWI, the results tend to depend on the area. If there is an option
nearby (say a city bans smoking but the rest of the county or a nearby
city doesn't) then B&R tend to be hurt. If bans over wider area, then
there is often a short dip until smokers find out they are as addicted
to eating out as they are to smoking(g)
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In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>,
"Tobie Gerbrandt" <chezbull.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote:

> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons.RemoveThis@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-CD0B12.18434620022008@news.individual.net...
> > In article <4g3vj.29052$dA2.12292@read2.cgocable.net>,
> > "Duncan Craig" <duncan.donut.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm surprised, as an alternative, that the cruise lines have never tied
> a
> >> "no smoking" theme on alternate departure dates of their routine
> >> 7/10/14-day
> >> pop[lar runs such as Akaska, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera....
> >
> > I don't know if it will or won't work. But I can say that since the 1st
> > of the year, after the smoking bans went in place in Illinois, our local
> > bars and restaurants are reporting a 20% decrease in business.
> >
> > And the casino layed off quite a few that they said was because of the
> > no smoking rules.
>
> Hi Lloyd
>
> Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban on
> smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars are
> just as busy now as they ever were.
>
> The smoking public, including our son, just go outside when they feel they
> need a smoke.
>
> Tobie>>>>on an Island in the Pacific

I suspect that you are right. And some restaurants and bars are putting
in outside areas for drinking, dining and smoking that will help them.
Of course, this winter has been one of the coldest here in many years,
so the outside isn't very pleasant.

But on a cruise ship that might go no smoking, those options wouldn't be
available. And frankly the smoke nazis never give up.

Wonder what we'll do when the fat nazis gain power?
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In article
<kurtullman-21011D.06580521022008.TakeThisOut@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <210220080611237053%fort@his.com.remove.invalid>,
> Charles <fort.TakeThisOut@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>, Tobie Gerbrandt
> > <chezbull.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban
> > > on
> > > smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars
> > > are
> > > just as busy now as they ever were.
> >
> > The bars and restaurants in my area have gained business since smoking
> > was banned.
>
> FWI, the results tend to depend on the area. If there is an option
> nearby (say a city bans smoking but the rest of the county or a nearby
> city doesn't) then B&R tend to be hurt. If bans over wider area, then
> there is often a short dip until smokers find out they are as addicted
> to eating out as they are to smoking(g)

Well, it is statewide in Illinois.

From the reports of the owners, it isn't affecting the weekend business
as much as it does the 'regulars' business, and the weekend alone won't
keep a B&R open in most cases.

Of course, if the gov't was actually interested in stopping smoking,
instead of kowtowing to a loud, obnoxious constituency, they would ban
smoking everywhere, ban growing tobacco and do away with farm subsidies
for tobacco growing. But you know that ain't happening.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:11:23 -0500, Charles wrote:

> In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>, Tobie Gerbrandt
> <chezbull.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban on
>> smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars are
>> just as busy now as they ever were.
>
> The bars and restaurants in my area have gained business since smoking
> was banned.

Wonder if that has anything to do with you not going to them anymore.

Just wondering LOL
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Fat nazis! My cow will be in trouble!
"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons RemoveThis @mac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <dM9vj.66305$FA.17613@pd7urf2no>,
> "Tobie Gerbrandt" <chezbull RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons RemoveThis @mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:lloydparsons-CD0B12.18434620022008@news.individual.net...
>> > In article <4g3vj.29052$dA2.12292@read2.cgocable.net>,
>> > "Duncan Craig" <duncan.donut RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm surprised, as an alternative, that the cruise lines have never
>> tied
>> a
>> >> "no smoking" theme on alternate departure dates of their routine
>> >> 7/10/14-day
>> >> pop[lar runs such as Akaska, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera....
>> >
>> > I don't know if it will or won't work. But I can say that since the
>> > 1st
>> > of the year, after the smoking bans went in place in Illinois, our
>> > local
>> > bars and restaurants are reporting a 20% decrease in business.
>> >
>> > And the casino layed off quite a few that they said was because of the
>> > no smoking rules.
>>
>> Hi Lloyd
>>
>> Rest assured that will be a temporary situation. We have had a total ban
>> on
>> smoking in public buildings here for several years and the pubs and bars
>> are
>> just as busy now as they ever were.
>>
>> The smoking public, including our son, just go outside when they feel
>> they
>> need a smoke.
>>
>> Tobie>>>>on an Island in the Pacific
>
> I suspect that you are right. And some restaurants and bars are putting
> in outside areas for drinking, dining and smoking that will help them.
> Of course, this winter has been one of the coldest here in many years,
> so the outside isn't very pleasant.
>
> But on a cruise ship that might go no smoking, those options wouldn't be
> available. And frankly the smoke nazis never give up.
>
> Wonder what we'll do when the fat nazis gain power?
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