Smoking on Cruises

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:38:09 GMT, "Ray" <raymondkloc.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>I think MOST cabins are non smoking. Even most balcony cabins are non
>smoking , a smoker can only smoke on the balcony itself . That would explain
>why a smoker is likely to choose a balcony cabin over one without a balcony.
>I'd have a bigger gripe agains someone smoking inside other cabins where
>smoking isn't allowed.

That certainly wasn't our experience with Carnival last summer.
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If they want people to stop smoking,the government should stop
subsidizing the tobacco industry

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Hopefully that would take effect asap but I guess there will be a lot of
not-so approving reactions.


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"Charles" <fort.DeleteThis@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <QtAwj.2817$pl4.1180@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, Ray
> <raymondkloc.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> As far as I can tell , the choices you have are :
>
> I do agree with you that it is unrealistic to expect people not to
> smoke where it is allowed is unrealistic. But I also think in todays
> society smoking should not be allowed on balconies. The cruise lines
> are behind where civilized society has moved on the smoking question. I
> am sure they will catch up though.
>
> So my choice is number 5, to lobby the cruise lines to ban smoking in
> all cabins, on all balconies and all lounges except for one area in one
> lounge and one outside deck area. I think a policy like Oceania and
> Azamara would be an acceptable compromise to most of us non-smokers.
>
> --
> Charles

I agree with you're thinking Charles. Sure I can choose a line like Oceania
or Azamara but there cruises are not offered at the same prices as Princess,
NCL or RCI. In time the mass market cruise lines will conform to the
continued requests of us non smokers although they'll never ban smoking
altogether for fear of losing the business.
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"Ray" <raymondkloc.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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100% Agreed. It's time to voice your complaints with the cruise lines.
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"Becca" <beccaNospam.RemoveThis@hal-pc.organ> wrote in message
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> Remember when they allowed smoking in the dining room? How things have
> changed.
>
> Becca
>

Can you recall the smoke clouds rising through the spotlight in the show
lounge?
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I really don't think the cruise lines care one way or the other if a
passenger smokes or not. I do however think they are interested in
making money. This is a simple lesson in supply and demand. The cruise
lines have ships booked up and this means revenue. If no one booked
the cabins because of the smoking policy then they would gladly
change. How else would they stay in business? I'm not saying we all
should give up cruising however we should voice our opinion every
chance we get about the smoking policy. After I book a cruise, I call
the cruise line to voice my opinion about their smoking policy (I'm a
non smoker). If the company representative is a non smoker they simply
agree with me if they are a smoker they quote the policy and say thank
you for your booking. it's hard to belive there are more smokers these
days than non smokers. if this is true than it is indeed tempory.
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:48:53 -0500, "Boomer" <nospam.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:


>Can you recall the smoke clouds rising through the spotlight in the show
>lounge?
>

I can remember smoking being allowed in college classrooms.
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:24:34 -0800, Jack Hamilton <jfh DeleteThis @acm.org> wrote:


>The economic downturn had nothing to do with it?

There was an article on msnbc.com, I think, not long ago about how
limo drivers, caterers, etc. are suffering because of economic
conditions and perceived conditions. If people are concerned, even if
they shouldn't be, they will cut back and it causes a ripple effect.

I've also read that Chicago is having a bad winter which could also be
a consideration.
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Hi

"pdevoy" <pmdevoy.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I really don't think the cruise lines care one way or the other if a
> passenger smokes or not. I do however think they are interested in
> making money. This is a simple lesson in supply and demand. The cruise
> lines have ships booked up and this means revenue. If no one booked
> the cabins because of the smoking policy then they would gladly
> change. How else would they stay in business? I'm not saying we all
> should give up cruising however we should voice our opinion every
> chance we get about the smoking policy. After I book a cruise, I call
> the cruise line to voice my opinion about their smoking policy (I'm a
> non smoker). If the company representative is a non smoker they simply
> agree with me if they are a smoker they quote the policy and say thank
> you for your booking. it's hard to belive there are more smokers these
> days than non smokers. if this is true than it is indeed tempory.
>

According to the NY Times, Sunday edition, 24% of US males over 15 smoke, so
a fairly sizable contingent.

PMM
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:43:47 GMT, "PMM" <pmurray<no
spammers>@telus.net> wrote:


>According to the NY Times, Sunday edition, 24% of US males over 15 smoke, so
>a fairly sizable contingent.
>
>PMM
>

Oct. 26, 2006 -- Nearly 21% of U.S. adults -- 45 million men and women
-- smoked cigarettes last year, the same percentage as in 2004.

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20061026/cdc-us-smoking-de...ne-has-

The percentage of those smoking varies widely depending on state.

So the ratio of non-smokers to smokers is almost 4:1.
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In article <D5Zwj.58660$C61.45765@edtnps89>, PMM < spammers>@telus.net>
wrote:

> According to the NY Times, Sunday edition, 24% of US males over 15 smoke, so
> a fairly sizable contingent.

Also in today's Times. 44% of cigarettes are smoked by the mentally ill.

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Charles
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[Default] Thus spake Jack Hamilton <jfh RemoveThis @acm.org>:

>"Boomer" <nospam RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>The problem is only to get worse on balconies as the number of places where
>>smokers can go is diminished. I try & get a balcony in the forward part of
>>the ship to minimize the problem. I really don't think cigar smokers realize
>>how much the smoke bothers others around them.
>
>I think it's that they don't care. The fact that many people object
>to being around cigar smoke is hardly a secret.

There was actually a letter published in Cigar Afficianado a few years
back (when smoking $100 cigars had just become "cool") where someone
basically said "it's my right to smoke wherever and whenever I want
and forget the rest of the world". And people applauded. It's all an
attitude.

I'm glad good wine has fallen "out of favor", as has good single
malts. The price of my beloved Oban has dropped, and I can get a good
cab for somewhere in the 90s.
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