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brooklyn

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:34 pm
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As a newbie to travel in the snow I learnt a lesson yesterday. If you are
planning on traveling in New Zealand and you are not familiar with driving
in the snow check this.

http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml



cheers

Brook

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scoop604

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:16 pm
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Good story!

I must congratulate you on having had the foresight to assemble and
*carry* an emergency kit. Even here in the Great White North, I would
bet that the percentage of motorists who have a good kit is *very* low.

As a former driver of tow-trucks in mountain areas, I would suggest
adding:

* a candle; although tiny, a candle (with the base wrapped in aluminum
foil) will produce enough heat to keep the interior temperature above
freezing, provided you don't keep opening the doors and windows; it is
also a *lot* safer than running the engine, which produces deadly carbon
monoxide;

* some roadside marker flares; after freezing, your greatest danger
comes from other vehicles whose drivers can't see your stationary car
through the falling snow; these are not expensive, and will remain
usable indefinitely;

* a small spade (aluminum) or folding army trencher

* extra gloves; keeping your hands dry and your fingers warm is
important;

"Brooklyn Waters" <brooklyn.DeleteThis@getridofthis.activatedinternet.co.nz> wrote
in message news:jUVTc.13683$N77.577867@news.xtra.co.nz...
 > As a newbie to travel in the snow I learnt a lesson yesterday. If you
are
 > planning on traveling in New Zealand and you are not familiar with
driving
 > in the snow check this.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font</a>><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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irving

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:25 am
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So don't you watch the weather forecast - it is no wonder people come to NZ
and die on our roads and in our bush - NZ is not like other places and it
pays to be aware of the context. Good that you are getting chains, but most
reputable hire companies wil not let you take a car in late winter in the
South Island without them - something to do with ski field acess roads.

"Brooklyn Waters" <brooklyn.RemoveThis@getridofthis.activatedinternet.co.nz> wrote in
message news:jUVTc.13683$N77.577867@news.xtra.co.nz...
 > As a newbie to travel in the snow I learnt a lesson yesterday. If you are
 > planning on traveling in New Zealand and you are not familiar with driving
 > in the snow check this.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font</a>>
 >
 >
 >
 > cheers
 >
 > Brook
 >
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brooklyn

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:07 pm
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"David Gee" <scoop604 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n55Uc.15869$jZ5.1146@clgrps13...
 > Good story!
 >
 > I must congratulate you on having had the foresight to assemble and
 > *carry* an emergency kit. Even here in the Great White North, I would
 > bet that the percentage of motorists who have a good kit is *very* low.
 >
 > As a former driver of tow-trucks in mountain areas, I would suggest
 > adding:
 >
 > * a candle; although tiny, a candle (with the base wrapped in aluminum
 > foil) will produce enough heat to keep the interior temperature above
 > freezing, provided you don't keep opening the doors and windows; it is
 > also a *lot* safer than running the engine, which produces deadly carbon
 > monoxide;
 >
 > * some roadside marker flares; after freezing, your greatest danger
 > comes from other vehicles whose drivers can't see your stationary car
 > through the falling snow; these are not expensive, and will remain
 > usable indefinitely;
 >
 > * a small spade (aluminum) or folding army trencher
 >
 > * extra gloves; keeping your hands dry and your fingers warm is
 > important;
 >
Thanks for that. I might add your suggestions to the page if you don't mind.

cheers

Brooklyn Waters

 > "Brooklyn Waters" <brooklyn DeleteThis @getridofthis.activatedinternet.co.nz> wrote
 > in message news:jUVTc.13683$N77.577867@news.xtra.co.nz...
  > > As a newbie to travel in the snow I learnt a lesson yesterday. If you
 > are
  > > planning on traveling in New Zealand and you are not familiar with
 > driving
  > > in the snow check this.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://www.galleryvittoria.com/nzblog/august2.shtml</font</a>>
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:07 pm
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In rec.travel.australia+nz Brooklyn Waters <brooklyn.RemoveThis@getridofthis.activatedinternet.co.nz> wrote:

  >> * some roadside marker flares; after freezing, your greatest danger
  >> comes from other vehicles whose drivers can't see your stationary car
  >> through the falling snow; these are not expensive, and will remain
  >> usable indefinitely;

 > Thanks for that. I might add your suggestions to the page if you don't mind.

You might find the flares are hard to get in NZ.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:07 pm
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"Brooklyn Waters" <brooklyn.RemoveThis@getridofthis.activatedinternet.co.nz> wrote
in message news:2baUc.13973$N77.589002@news.xtra.co.nz...
 >
 > "David Gee" <scoop604.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:n55Uc.15869$jZ5.1146@clgrps13...

  > > * a candle; although tiny, a candle (with the base wrapped in
aluminum
  > > foil) will produce enough heat to keep the interior temperature
above
  > > freezing, provided you don't keep opening the doors and windows; it
is
  > > also a *lot* safer than running the engine, which produces deadly
carbon
  > > monoxide;
  > >
  > > * some roadside marker flares; after freezing, your greatest danger
  > > comes from other vehicles whose drivers can't see your stationary
car
  > > through the falling snow; these are not expensive, and will remain
  > > usable indefinitely;
  > >
  > > * a small spade (aluminum) or folding army trencher
  > >
  > > * extra gloves; keeping your hands dry and your fingers warm is
  > > important;
  > >
 > Thanks for that. I might add your suggestions to the page if you don't
mind.
 >
 > cheers
 >
 > Brooklyn Waters

Please do -- genius is only recognized when it is shared. <g><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:07 pm
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"Geoff McCaughan" <geoffm DeleteThis @spam.fqdn.com> wrote in message
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 >
   > >> * some roadside marker flares; after freezing, your greatest danger
   > >> comes from other vehicles whose drivers can't see your stationary
car
   > >> through the falling snow; these are not expensive, and will remain
   > >> usable indefinitely;
  > >
 > You might find the flares are hard to get in NZ.
 >
Just do what kids do all over Canada: break into police cars while they
are parked outside a donut shop ....

OTOH, a quick phone call to the Automobile Association might be useful.
Also try firms that specialize in emergency equipment or packaged First
Aid kits. Or ask your local ski hill operators where they get theirs.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:23 am
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In article <dXaUc.13995$N77.588680@news.xtra.co.nz>,
geoffm DeleteThis @spam.fqdn.com says...

 > You might find the flares are hard to get in NZ.

Long johns are plentiful and more practical.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:28 am
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In rec.travel.australia+nz David Gee <scoop604 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 > "Geoff McCaughan" <geoffm RemoveThis @spam.fqdn.com> wrote in message
 > news:dXaUc.13995$N77.588680@news.xtra.co.nz...

  >> You might find the flares are hard to get in NZ.
  >>
 > Just do what kids do all over Canada: break into police cars while they
 > are parked outside a donut shop ....

You might look for a long time for a "donut" shop too, and if you did find
one, there'd be no police parked outside.

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