Starbucks or McDonalds wifi?

<reejnator DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico -
> Denver) this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> throught wifi.
> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
> As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can
> be found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be
> where we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to
> choose (or choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks. Also (any
> pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of service, etc is
> appreciated.
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You will more McDonalds dotting major highways and in smaller towns
than Starbucks, which tend to congregate on street corners in urban
areas and suburban strip-malls. IMHO, McDonalds appeals more to
blue-collar folk and those in a rush who do not mind their leat-lamp,
rubbery food and watery coffee. Starbucks, OTOH, appeals more
to snobbish types those who do not mind overpaying for ambiance,
better coffee options, and stale bakery products for eating.
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

In article <ucGvj.93932$_m.58369@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"Rog'" <rcblinnNoSpam.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> <reejnator.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> > Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico -
> > Denver) this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> > (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> > throught wifi.
> > McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
> > number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
> > As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can
> > be found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be
> > where we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to
> > choose (or choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks. Also (any
> > pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of service, etc is
> > appreciated.
> --------------
> You will more McDonalds dotting major highways and in smaller towns
> than Starbucks, which tend to congregate on street corners in urban
> areas and suburban strip-malls. IMHO, McDonalds appeals more to
> blue-collar folk and those in a rush who do not mind their leat-lamp,
> rubbery food and watery coffee. Starbucks, OTOH, appeals more
> to snobbish types those who do not mind overpaying for ambiance,
> better coffee options, and stale bakery products for eating.

All the OP has to do is google for "wi-fi Grand Canyon" or something
like that. McDonalds and Starbucks are not the only options for free
wi-fi.
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

Sounds like a great trip. You shouldn't have much trouble w/ wifi
access.

I'm really posting to caution you to make advanced reservations in many
of the locations you are planning to visit (read: NOW). In the
National Parks, many of these camp sites open up 366 days in advance
for reservations... and the coveted campgrounds are sold out months and
months in advance. They do hold back some sites for daily arrivals...
but try to avoid that chaos. Even the accommodations outside the Parks
fill up. Stay in the Parks !

Look at this site, if you haven't already.

http://www.nps.gov/

If you want help with drive times between these great distances... just
ask.

jay
Fri Feb 22, 2008
mailto:gofig@mac.com


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<62c8b576-ea37-49d3-b1a1-2780dc40bd6c RemoveThis @e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
<reejnator RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> throught wifi.
>
> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
>
> As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can be
> found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be where
> we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to choose (or
> choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks.
> Also (any pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of
> service, etc is appreciated.
>
> Ray
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

<reejnator RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:62c8b576-ea37-49d3-b1a1-2780dc40bd6c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> throught wifi.
>
> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
>
> As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can be
> found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be where
> we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to choose (or
> choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks.
> Also (any pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of
> service, etc is appreciated.
>
> Ray

There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
on a map both free and paid wifi access points

http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx

Keith
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

In article <fpp2d6$cb9$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
Keith Willshaw <keithnospam.RemoveThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
>on a map both free and paid wifi access points
>
>http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx

Hey, handy site, thanks!

I'm curious, though--do they really only list "spots" and not
citywide free WiFi projects? Or does it depend on whether the
sponsoring organization submits the data to MSN? I'm asking
because MSN's listing for downtown Mountain View is missing
the most obvious WiFi access: the free system implemented by
Google. Simple oversight, or conspiracy?


Patty
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

reejnator.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> throught wifi.
>
> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.

Cost should no be a factor!! We travel all over North America in an RV
and find free wifi most every place, even in some Federal campgrounds
with consession locations.

Tom J
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

In article <47c065e4$0$36330$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Patty Winter <patty1.DeleteThis@wintertime.com> wrote:

> In article <fpp2d6$cb9$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
> Keith Willshaw <keithnospam.DeleteThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
> >on a map both free and paid wifi access points
> >
> >http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx
>
> Hey, handy site, thanks!
>
> I'm curious, though--do they really only list "spots" and not
> citywide free WiFi projects? Or does it depend on whether the
> sponsoring organization submits the data to MSN? I'm asking
> because MSN's listing for downtown Mountain View is missing
> the most obvious WiFi access: the free system implemented by
> Google. Simple oversight, or conspiracy?

Contact the maintainer of that web site and ask.
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

reejnator RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
> throught wifi.

Many KOA campgrounds have wifi. Some of the National Parks may have it
in the built up areas, especially around the more expensive lodging.
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:09:08 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
<keithnospam.TakeThisOut@demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
><reejnator.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:62c8b576-ea37-49d3-b1a1-2780dc40bd6c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
>> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
>> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
>> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
>> throught wifi.
>>
>> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
>> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
>>
>> As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can be
>> found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be where
>> we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to choose (or
>> choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks.
>> Also (any pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of
>> service, etc is appreciated.
>>
>> Ray
>
>There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
>on a map both free and paid wifi access points
>
>http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx

I just checked for Tucson. The first place listed is Wilde
Playhouse, which went belly up a couple of years ago.

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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
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 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

"Hatunen" <hatunen.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:09:08 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
> <keithnospam.RemoveThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>><reejnator.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:62c8b576-ea37-49d3-b1a1-2780dc40bd6c@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> We will be travelling (camping by tent) in Rockies (Denver -
>>> Yellowstone - Bryce - Grand Canyon - Arizona - New Mexico - Denver)
>>> this summer. I want to use my laptop to access the internet
>>> (campground reservation, browse for information, update blog etc)
>>> throught wifi.
>>>
>>> McDonalds and Starbucks are both providing wifi access in quite a
>>> number of locations. Costs are considered appr. similar.
>>>
>>> As a foreigner, I do not know if both McDonalds and Starbucks can be
>>> found in the smaller towns and non-big-city areas, which will be where
>>> we are travelling. So can anyone provide me arguments to choose (or
>>> choose not) either McDonalds or Starbucks.
>>> Also (any pointers to) any comparison on availability, quality of
>>> service, etc is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
>>on a map both free and paid wifi access points
>>
>>http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx
>
> I just checked for Tucson. The first place listed is Wilde
> Playhouse, which went belly up a couple of years ago.
>

Tell the Site Admin, thats the only way such sites can stay current.

Keith
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:12:00 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
<keithnospam.DeleteThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:

>"Hatunen" <hatunen.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:ts16s35dtr28a7p79osnqm7p42co4267n0@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:09:08 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
>> <keithnospam.DeleteThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>>There's a very nice wifi locator on the URL below. It lists and displays
>>>on a map both free and paid wifi access points
>>>
>>>http://hotspot.msn.com/web/SearchView.aspx
>>
>> I just checked for Tucson. The first place listed is Wilde
>> Playhouse, which went belly up a couple of years ago.
>>
>
>Tell the Site Admin, thats the only way such sites can stay current.

I gave up long ago any hope of finding up to date wi-fi or
netcafe sites.

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************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

In message <ucGvj.93932$_m.58369@bignews4.bellsouth.net> "Rog'"
<rcblinnNoSpam.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>better coffee options

You misspelt "burnt"
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi? 

Shouldn't it be "misspelled"?
 >> Stay informed about: Starbucks or McDonalds wifi?