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Robert Cohen wrote:

> When it does good work, then I should comment on that too.
>
>
> http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/20/man-airport-had-bo...utter-h

Yes, great. Box cutters. How many years did we go without a boxcutter
incident when boxcutters were permitted aboard? There is no evidence
he planned to use it on the plane. The cabin door is locked. He ain't
getting control of the plane with boxcutters.
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In article <IZqdnZULN_Ud6SPanZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
"Mr. Travel" <mtravel.TakeThisOut@a.a> wrote:

> Robert Cohen wrote:
>
> > When it does good work, then I should comment on that too.
> >
> >
> > http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/20/man-airport-had-box-cutt
> > er-hidden-book/
>
> Yes, great. Box cutters. How many years did we go without a boxcutter
> incident when boxcutters were permitted aboard? There is no evidence
> he planned to use it on the plane. The cabin door is locked. He ain't
> getting control of the plane with boxcutters.

You have got to be kidding. Why in the world would the guy put himself
at risk of being arrested and go to the trouble of hollowing out a bug
to smuggle on a box cutter if he had no intention of using it on the
flight? If he didn't want to use it in flight, he could have packed the
box cutter in his checked luggage or simply purchased one at his
destination.
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> Try applying Occam's Razor occasionally - it does wonder for
> one's sanity...

I tried to, but they wouldn't let me take it on the plane.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:06:38 -0800, "Mr. Travel" <mtravel RemoveThis @a.a> wrote:

>Robert Cohen wrote:
>
>> When it does good work, then I should comment on that too.
>>
>>
>> http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/20/man-airport-had-bo...utter-h
>
>Yes, great. Box cutters. How many years did we go without a boxcutter
>incident when boxcutters were permitted aboard? There is no evidence
>he planned to use it on the plane. The cabin door is locked. He ain't
>getting control of the plane with boxcutters.


I understand the rate of wild baboon attacks in airports is also way
down since TSA took over. I am surprised they haven't mentioned that
in their self-back-patting press releases.

I am concerned though that they are not taking the threat of
terrorists releasing wild tigers from local zoos with the intent of
taking over flights very seriously..the recent escapes at major
metropolitan zoos may be a "dry run" for a hijacking attenpt using
tigers.

I understand that Secretary Chertoff's Intelligence staff overhead a
remark that if misconstrued and put into the wrong light after being
run through Babelfish several times could lead to an indication of a
possible dicsussion of a planned threat since wild tigers are the
"weapon of choice" for many terror groups.

NO price is too extreme and personal freedom must make wat for the
common good if it keeps us safe from rampaging wild animal threats on
our nation's aircraft.

Jim P.
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:05:26 -0500, Shawn Hirn <srhi RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <IZqdnZULN_Ud6SPanZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
> "Mr. Travel" <mtravel RemoveThis @a.a> wrote:
>
>> Robert Cohen wrote:
>>
>> > When it does good work, then I should comment on that too.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/20/man-airport-had-box-cutt
>> > er-hidden-book/
>>
>> Yes, great. Box cutters. How many years did we go without a boxcutter
>> incident when boxcutters were permitted aboard? There is no evidence
>> he planned to use it on the plane. The cabin door is locked. He ain't
>> getting control of the plane with boxcutters.
>
>You have got to be kidding. Why in the world would the guy put himself
>at risk of being arrested and go to the trouble of hollowing out a bug
>to smuggle on a box cutter if he had no intention of using it on the
>flight? If he didn't want to use it in flight, he could have packed the
>box cutter in his checked luggage or simply purchased one at his
>destination.

On the other hand he'd need an awfully co-operative victim to kill anyone
with that.

DaveM
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"DaveM" <asma61.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:05:26 -0500, Shawn Hirn <srhi.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <IZqdnZULN_Ud6SPanZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
>> "Mr. Travel" <mtravel.RemoveThis@a.a> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>> > When it does good work, then I should comment on that too.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/20/man-airport-had-box-cutt
>>> > er-hidden-book/
>>>
>>> Yes, great. Box cutters. How many years did we go without a boxcutter
>>> incident when boxcutters were permitted aboard? There is no evidence
>>> he planned to use it on the plane. The cabin door is locked. He ain't
>>> getting control of the plane with boxcutters.
>>
>>You have got to be kidding. Why in the world would the guy put himself
>>at risk of being arrested and go to the trouble of hollowing out a bug
>>to smuggle on a box cutter if he had no intention of using it on the
>>flight? If he didn't want to use it in flight, he could have packed the
>>box cutter in his checked luggage or simply purchased one at his
>>destination.
>
> On the other hand he'd need an awfully co-operative victim to kill anyone
> with that.

Think about what you just said. The guy next to you could suddenly reach
over and slice your throat wide open with one of those. You'd bleed out
before you could say WTF?
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In message <13seci4l1unq1b.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
<sky.dancer1.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Think about what you just said. The guy next to you could suddenly reach
>over and slice your throat wide open with one of those. You'd bleed out
>before you could say WTF?

And?

The rest of the plane would take care of him very quickly, and he'd only
have a handful of victims.

He could achieve the same result at any mall, or in the airport (heck,
he might even take out some TSA guys just to make a point)

Compare that to the situation where the guy has a knife (why wouldn't
he, the TSA sure isn't going to stop him) but nobody else does. Your
throat is still slashed, but everyone else will be disarmed.

I also suspect that polishing up my knife might get the twitchy moron
sitting beside me on my last flight to sit still for more then 9
seconds.
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In article <05afs396525d1cb4tk90tm7loic7kp78ii.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam.DeleteThis@crazyhat.net> wrote:

> In message <13seci4l1unq1b.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
> <sky.dancer1.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Think about what you just said. The guy next to you could suddenly reach
> >over and slice your throat wide open with one of those. You'd bleed out
> >before you could say WTF?
>
> And?
>
> The rest of the plane would take care of him very quickly, and he'd only
> have a handful of victims.

Sounds good. So why did the passengers on the 9/11/2001 flights that
flew into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center not do as you propose?
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam RemoveThis @crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <13seci4l1unq1b RemoveThis @news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
> <sky.dancer1 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Think about what you just said. The guy next to you could suddenly reach
>>over and slice your throat wide open with one of those. You'd bleed out
>>before you could say WTF?
>
> And?
>
> The rest of the plane would take care of him very quickly, and he'd only
> have a handful of victims.
>
> He could achieve the same result at any mall, or in the airport (heck,
> he might even take out some TSA guys just to make a point)

True, but Dave's statement indicated that a box cutter would be basically
useless.
When you look at the school shootings, and others, It's only a matter of
time before someone goes crazy, and starts slashing passengers on a crowded
flight.
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In message <srhi-7C03D1.06055929022008.DeleteThis@newsgroups.comcast.net> Shawn
Hirn <srhi.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <05afs396525d1cb4tk90tm7loic7kp78ii.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam.DeleteThis@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> In message <13seci4l1unq1b.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
>> <sky.dancer1.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Think about what you just said. The guy next to you could suddenly reach
>> >over and slice your throat wide open with one of those. You'd bleed out
>> >before you could say WTF?
>>
>> And?
>>
>> The rest of the plane would take care of him very quickly, and he'd only
>> have a handful of victims.
>
>Sounds good. So why did the passengers on the 9/11/2001 flights that
>flew into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center not do as you propose?

1) Failure to understand the risks.

2) They weren't armed, greatly reducing each person's personal odds of
success.
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In message <13sg77dsnh5ejf8 RemoveThis @news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
<sky.dancer1 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>True, but Dave's statement indicated that a box cutter would be basically
>useless.
>When you look at the school shootings, and others, It's only a matter of
>time before someone goes crazy, and starts slashing passengers on a crowded
>flight.

And? -- If they don't do it on a flight, they'll do it somewhere else.

You want to solve hijackings? Give each and every passenger a taser,
and make any offensive use of that taser against someone who is not
posing a threat a death penalty offense.

Hijackers would go down each and every time, those that have self
control issues would be isolated and removed from society, and the rest
of us could get on the plane without getting felt up.

Life would be good.
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"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam DeleteThis @crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <13sg77dsnh5ejf8 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
> <sky.dancer1 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>True, but Dave's statement indicated that a box cutter would be basically
>>useless.
>>When you look at the school shootings, and others, It's only a matter of
>>time before someone goes crazy, and starts slashing passengers on a
>>crowded
>>flight.
>
> And? -- If they don't do it on a flight, they'll do it somewhere else.
>
> You want to solve hijackings? Give each and every passenger a taser,
> and make any offensive use of that taser against someone who is not
> posing a threat a death penalty offense.
>
> Hijackers would go down each and every time, those that have self
> control issues would be isolated and removed from society, and the rest
> of us could get on the plane without getting felt up.
>
> Life would be good.

I can picture a WN flight. 100 inbreds with tasers running up & down the
aisle. Hey Bubba! Watch this!
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In message <13sgh6ks51dg673 RemoveThis @news.supernews.com> "Jim Davis"
<sky.dancer1 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>I can picture a WN flight. 100 inbreds with tasers running up & down the
>aisle. Hey Bubba! Watch this!

Yes, and each one getting lined up and shot shortly after the flight.
I'd call that a feature, not a bug.
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