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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:13 pm
Post subject: Tipping questions
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I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them yourself?
If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip billed
to your stateroom account along with the service?
2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea at
the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
PS: Another question about the Empress tea - looking at their website,
they show their first tea service, IIRC, at 12:30 p.m.,but the Princess
time for the city tour and tea lists the trip as running from 9
a.m.-noon. Do they have a special early service just for cruise tours?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:57 am
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On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> Brian K <brian1... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... RemoveThis @webtv.net wrote:
> >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
> >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
>
> >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
> >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them yourself?
> >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip billed
> >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>
> >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea at
> >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
>
> >> PS: Another question about the Empress tea - looking at their website,
> >> they show their first tea service, IIRC, at 12:30 p.m.,but the Princess
> >> time for the city tour and tea lists the trip as running from 9
> >> a.m.-noon. Do they have a special early service just for cruise tours?
>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Diva
>
> >Generally the excursion description when you book, will specify if tips
> >are included or not. Just to be sure, you can always ask at the
> >excursion desk (or whatever they call it). If it's not included or you
> >feel you might want to tip extra for excellent service -- take a few
> >dollars out of your tip fund when you go. US Dollars are acceptable for
> >tips or purchases from the gift shop.
>
> I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
> least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
> guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals or
> food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
> description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge for
> the tea was included.
My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
or independently.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:06 am
Post subject: Re: Tipping questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Apr 3, 11:46 am, "Newby" <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.net> wrote:
> "LeeNY" <lees....DeleteThis@campmor.com> wrote in message
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> news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
> > On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas....DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > Brian K <brian1....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage....DeleteThis@webtv.net wrote:
> > > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
> > > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
>
> > > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
> > > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
> yourself?
> > > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip
> billed
> > > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>
> > > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea
> at
> > > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
>
> [snipped]
>
> > > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
> > > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
> > > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals or
> > > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
> > > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge for
> > > the tea was included.
>
> > My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
> > operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
> > or independently.
>
> > Lee
>
> Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
> providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set the price
> too low?
Because I'm tipping the folks that work for the operator...not the
operator themselves. Rarely is it the owner of the tour company that
is actually running the tour - and if it was the owner then no, I
wouldn't tip him/her. But, for the folks that work for the owner?
Absolutely. Same as tipping a stylist at a salon that he/she doesn't
own.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:42 am
Post subject: Re: Tipping questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Apr 3, 12:14 pm, "Newby" <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> "LeeNY" <lees... DeleteThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
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> news:1175616382.079017.141550@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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>
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> > On Apr 3, 11:46 am, "Newby" <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> > > "LeeNY" <lees... DeleteThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > > Brian K <brian1... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... DeleteThis @webtv.net wrote:
> > > > > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity
> added to
> > > > > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise
> tipping:
>
> > > > > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices
> include a
> > > > > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
> > > yourself?
> > > > > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip
> > > billed
> > > > > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>
> > > > > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the
> tea
> > > at
> > > > > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the
> tip?
>
> > > [snipped]
>
> > > > > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
> > > > > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
> > > > > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals
> or
> > > > > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
> > > > > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge
> for
> > > > > the tea was included.
>
> > > > My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
> > > > operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
> > > > or independently.
>
> > > > Lee
>
> > > Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
> > > providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set the
> price
> > > too low?
>
> > Because I'm tipping the folks that work for the operator...not the
> > operator themselves. Rarely is it the owner of the tour company that
> > is actually running the tour - and if it was the owner then no, I
> > wouldn't tip him/her. But, for the folks that work for the owner?
> > Absolutely. Same as tipping a stylist at a salon that he/she doesn't
> > own.
>
> > Lee
>
> Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
> accept.
I think you're just trying to be argumentative, but I'll answer you
anyway.
I don't know how negotiations go between tour company owners and their
employees, but I'm guessing it's similar to all of the service
industry...minimal hourly (or daily) salary with the promise (or
expectation) of gratuities to round out the take-home pay - like
waitstaff, salon employees, valet car parkers, cab drivers, etc. So,
that's what the employees have agreed upon with their employers. And,
I have no problem with this set-up. Tipping is my pleasure with
satisfactory or above services rendered.
Lee >> Stay informed about: Tipping questions |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:52 am
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I've "out-of the-loop" on this tipping fiasco. I think Holland America
started it! I am a senior, can anyone exolain it to me?
"LeeNY" <leeschw RemoveThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Brian K <brian1... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... RemoveThis @webtv.net wrote:
>> >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
>> >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
>>
>> >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
>> >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
>> >> yourself?
>> >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip
>> >> billed
>> >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>>
>> >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea
>> >> at
>> >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
>>
>> >> PS: Another question about the Empress tea - looking at their
>> >> website,
>> >> they show their first tea service, IIRC, at 12:30 p.m.,but the
>> >> Princess
>> >> time for the city tour and tea lists the trip as running from 9
>> >> a.m.-noon. Do they have a special early service just for cruise
>> >> tours?
>>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Diva
>>
>> >Generally the excursion description when you book, will specify if tips
>> >are included or not. Just to be sure, you can always ask at the
>> >excursion desk (or whatever they call it). If it's not included or you
>> >feel you might want to tip extra for excellent service -- take a few
>> >dollars out of your tip fund when you go. US Dollars are acceptable for
>> >tips or purchases from the gift shop.
>>
>> I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
>> least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
>> guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals or
>> food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
>> description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge for
>> the tea was included.
>
> My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
> operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
> or independently.
>
> Lee
> >> Stay informed about: Tipping questions |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:39 am
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Brian K <brian1951 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMagenta DeleteThis @webtv.net wrote:
>> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
>> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
>>
>> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
>> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them yourself?
>> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip billed
>> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>>
>> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea at
>> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
>>
>> PS: Another question about the Empress tea - looking at their website,
>> they show their first tea service, IIRC, at 12:30 p.m.,but the Princess
>> time for the city tour and tea lists the trip as running from 9
>> a.m.-noon. Do they have a special early service just for cruise tours?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Diva
>>
>Generally the excursion description when you book, will specify if tips
>are included or not. Just to be sure, you can always ask at the
>excursion desk (or whatever they call it). If it's not included or you
>feel you might want to tip extra for excellent service -- take a few
>dollars out of your tip fund when you go. US Dollars are acceptable for
>tips or purchases from the gift shop.
I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals or
food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge for
the tea was included. >> Stay informed about: Tipping questions |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:46 am
Post subject: Re: Tipping questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"LeeNY" <leeschw DeleteThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Brian K <brian1... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... DeleteThis @webtv.net wrote:
> > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity added to
> > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise tipping:
> >
> > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices include a
> > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
yourself?
> > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip
billed
> > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
> >
> > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the tea
at
> > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the tip?
> >
[snipped]
> > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
> > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
> > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals or
> > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
> > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge for
> > the tea was included.
>
> My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
> operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
> or independently.
>
> Lee
>
Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set the price
too low? >> Stay informed about: Tipping questions |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:14 pm
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"LeeNY" <leeschw DeleteThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 3, 11:46 am, "Newby" <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> > "LeeNY" <lees... DeleteThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > Brian K <brian1... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... DeleteThis @webtv.net wrote:
> > > > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity
added to
> > > > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise
tipping:
> >
> > > > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices
include a
> > > > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
> > yourself?
> > > > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the tip
> > billed
> > > > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
> >
> > > > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like the
tea
> > at
> > > > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the
tip?
> >
> > [snipped]
> >
> > > > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
> > > > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the tour
> > > > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where meals
or
> > > > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the tour
> > > > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service charge
for
> > > > the tea was included.
> >
> > > My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the independent
> > > operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise line
> > > or independently.
> >
> > > Lee
> >
> > Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
> > providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set the
price
> > too low?
>
> Because I'm tipping the folks that work for the operator...not the
> operator themselves. Rarely is it the owner of the tour company that
> is actually running the tour - and if it was the owner then no, I
> wouldn't tip him/her. But, for the folks that work for the owner?
> Absolutely. Same as tipping a stylist at a salon that he/she doesn't
> own.
>
> Lee
>
>
Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
accept. >> Stay informed about: Tipping questions |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:54 pm
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"LeeNY" <leeschw RemoveThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 3, 12:14 pm, "Newby" <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> > "LeeNY" <lees... RemoveThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1175616382.079017.141550@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 3, 11:46 am, "Newby" <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> > > > "LeeNY" <lees... RemoveThis @campmor.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas... RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Brian K <brian1... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage... RemoveThis @webtv.net wrote:
> > > > > > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity
> > added to
> > > > > > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise
> > tipping:
> >
> > > > > > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices
> > include a
> > > > > > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip
them
> > > > yourself?
> > > > > > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the
tip
> > > > billed
> > > > > > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
> >
> > > > > > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like
the
> > tea
> > > > at
> > > > > > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include
the
> > tip?
> >
> > > > [snipped]
> >
> > > > > > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions -
at
> > > > > > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the
tour
> > > > > > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where
meals
> > or
> > > > > > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the
tour
> > > > > > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service
charge
> > for
> > > > > > the tea was included.
> >
> > > > > My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the
independent
> > > > > operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise
line
> > > > > or independently.
> >
> > > > > Lee
> >
> > > > Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
> > > > providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set
the
> > price
> > > > too low?
> >
> > > Because I'm tipping the folks that work for the operator...not the
> > > operator themselves. Rarely is it the owner of the tour company that
> > > is actually running the tour - and if it was the owner then no, I
> > > wouldn't tip him/her. But, for the folks that work for the owner?
> > > Absolutely. Same as tipping a stylist at a salon that he/she doesn't
> > > own.
> >
> > > Lee
> >
> > Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
> > accept.
>
> I think you're just trying to be argumentative, but I'll answer you
> anyway.
>
>
> I don't know how negotiations go between tour company owners and their
> employees, but I'm guessing it's similar to all of the service
> industry...minimal hourly (or daily) salary with the promise (or
> expectation) of gratuities to round out the take-home pay - like
> waitstaff, salon employees, valet car parkers, cab drivers, etc. So,
> that's what the employees have agreed upon with their employers. And,
> I have no problem with this set-up. Tipping is my pleasure with
> satisfactory or above services rendered.
>
> Lee
>
I expect satisfactory service when I pay the 'contracted' price and am
willing to 'give a little extra' if the service provided exceeds my
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:32 pm
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"LeeNY" <leeschw.TakeThisOut@campmor.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 3, 12:14 pm, "Newby" <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> "LeeNY" <lees....TakeThisOut@campmor.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175616382.079017.141550@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 3, 11:46 am, "Newby" <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> > > "LeeNY" <lees....TakeThisOut@campmor.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:1175608652.964034.262410@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > > On Apr 3, 9:52 am, Rosalie B. <gmbeas....TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Brian K <brian1....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > > > > >On 3/31/2007 9:13 PM DivaMage....TakeThisOut@webtv.net wrote:
>> > > > > >> I know there's the standard $10 per day, per person gratuity
>> added to
>> > > > > >> your bill, but I have a couple of questions about cruise
>> tipping:
>>
>> > > > > >> 1. If using a special service like the spa, do the prices
>> include a
>> > > > > >> tip, do they automatically add one, or do you have to tip them
>> > > yourself?
>> > > > > >> If the latter, do you have to have cash, or can you have the
>> > > > > >> tip
>> > > billed
>> > > > > >> to your stateroom account along with the service?
>>
>> > > > > >> 2. Excursions that include normally tippable services, like
>> > > > > >> the
>> tea
>> > > at
>> > > > > >> the Empress Hotel in BC - does the excursion price include the
>> tip?
>>
>> > > [snipped]
>>
>> > > > > I've never seen any mention of tips in any tour descriptions - at
>> > > > > least not for the tour guides. My experience has been that the
>> > > > > tour
>> > > > > guides expect tips. Of course I haven't had many tours where
>> > > > > meals
>> or
>> > > > > food were included, or at least none that I knew about from the
>> > > > > tour
>> > > > > description so maybe Princess would say whether the service
>> > > > > charge
>> for
>> > > > > the tea was included.
>>
>> > > > My experience as well, Rosalie. I always expect to tip the
>> > > > independent
>> > > > operators that run the tours, whether I book through the cruise
>> > > > line
>> > > > or independently.
>>
>> > > > Lee
>>
>> > > Why do you believe it necessary to 'tip' an independent operator for
>> > > providing a service at a price they set? Do you believe they set the
>> price
>> > > too low?
>>
>> > Because I'm tipping the folks that work for the operator...not the
>> > operator themselves. Rarely is it the owner of the tour company that
>> > is actually running the tour - and if it was the owner then no, I
>> > wouldn't tip him/her. But, for the folks that work for the owner?
>> > Absolutely. Same as tipping a stylist at a salon that he/she doesn't
>> > own.
>>
>> > Lee
>>
>> Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
>> accept.
>
> I think you're just trying to be argumentative, but I'll answer you
> anyway.
>
>
> I don't know how negotiations go between tour company owners and their
> employees, but I'm guessing it's similar to all of the service
> industry...minimal hourly (or daily) salary with the promise (or
> expectation) of gratuities to round out the take-home pay - like
> waitstaff, salon employees, valet car parkers, cab drivers, etc. So,
> that's what the employees have agreed upon with their employers. And,
> I have no problem with this set-up. Tipping is my pleasure with
> satisfactory or above services rendered.
>
What you describe may well be the norm in the USA, but surely most cruise
excursions are taken elsewhere and in many places (the EU, Australia, New
Zealand for example) wage rates are adequate for service personnel. And, of
course, many people who go on cruises are not USAians.
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In article <1314vad5ifjkda7.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, Newby
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> Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
> accept.
It is customary to tip them and the wages of those employees are
usually based on the wage income being supplemented with tips.
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Charles wrote:
> In article <1314vad5ifjkda7 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>, Newby
> <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
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>> Why? The employee has agreed to work for a wage he/she is willing to
>> accept.
>
> It is customary to tip them and the wages of those employees are
> usually based on the wage income being supplemented with tips.
So, they'd better work their rumps off to have happy campers, right?
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> What you describe may well be the norm in the USA, but surely most cruise
> excursions are taken elsewhere and in many places (the EU, Australia, New
> Zealand for example) wage rates are adequate for service personnel. And,
> of course, many people who go on cruises are not USAians.
>
> JohnT
If your wage rates are adequate as you state, then why is it that when we
have traveled in Europe, it was suggested that we leave a small tip to round
off the amount if the service charge was not already included in the bill?
How about the attendants that are in the ladies' rooms..they expected to be
tipped.
When we have taken land excursions in Europe, we were always told that the
guide expected to be tipped, as well as the bus driver...what is your
explanation for that? And yes, we are US citizens.
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In article <3fEQh.136625$907.90200@newsfe13.phx>, Nonnymus
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> So, they'd better work their rumps off to have happy campers, right?
I don't think they have to work their rumps off to have happy campers.
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"Jean O'Boyle" <j.obo... DeleteThis @removefudged.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> If your wage rates are adequate as you state, then why is it that when we
> have traveled in Europe, it was suggested that we leave a small tip to round
> off the amount if the service charge was not already included in the bill?
> How about the attendants that are in the ladies' rooms..they expected to be
> tipped.
> When we have taken land excursions in Europe, we were always told that the
> guide expected to be tipped, as well as the bus driver...what is your
> explanation for that? And yes, we are US citizens.
The first is a tradition of common courtesy of simply rounding off the
bill.
The second is a human collecting the toll instead of a machine
collecting the toll.
The third is because said tours are invariably targeted at American
tourists, so it is set up with the low come-on price with the
expectation that the American customers will then tip.
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