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Since: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 63
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:28 am
Post subject: Re: UA $75 paper ticket fee. What the &@#$!!!! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>travel>air (more info?)
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On Feb 14, 11:18 am, jrk... RemoveThis @poczta.gazeta.pl wrote:
> On Feb 13, 11:39 am, "KGB" <FedUpWithS... RemoveThis @NoEmailAddre.ss> (KGB)
> wrote:
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> > That being the case, a paperticket is a waste of time anyway; you may
> > as well just turn up at the check-in and tell them the reservation
> > (i.e. e-ticket) number yourself.
>
> I had an interesting experience a few months back. Northwest cancelled
> their flight between Memphis and Denver, on which I had a reservation
> and paper ticket, and re-booked me on a NW flight to Wichita, with the
> connecting flight on UA to Denver. After I got yo Wichita, the United
> staff at the gate refused to issue me a boarding card, claiming they
> did not have me in their computer and asked -- you guessed it -- for a
> paper ticket. Yuck. I had to run to the NW counter outside the
> security zone, find someone who was not out to lunch (most were), have
> them issue a ticket, go next to the United counter, have them issue a
> boarding card, return to the gate through security (which gave me a
> special treatment) and barely get on the plane that was ready to
> leave. Not an experience I would like to repeat. A paper ticket would
> save me all that trouble. So beware.
Not exactly. I suspect your problem began because of that
original
paper ticket you had. If you had had an e-ticket, they may not have
asked for one. Dunno though. >> Stay informed about: UA $75 paper ticket fee. What the &@#$!!!! |
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Since: Feb 14, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:00 am
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On Feb 11, 11:48 am, hotbis....DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi again all
>
> I just found out from my friend that has been making all of our travel
> plans through American Express on the internet for our Hawaiian trip
> that I owe him $75 above the ticket price/taxes. He says that United
> charges $75 for paper tickets. My reply is that I am fine e-ticket and
> don't think I should have to pay him for the outrageous fee. His
> response is that United in the past has had problems finding his e-
> ticket reservation and so he now always gets a paper ticket. I don't
> fly that often, but when I seem to have no problems with my
> reservation and I always have an e-ticket.
>
> Do any of you select paper tickets instead on electronic ones and why?
> Do any of you have problems with United or other airlines finding your
> reservations when you have an e-ticket?
>
> HBS
You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
extensive resources on making complaints at http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
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Since: Dec 11, 2007 Posts: 555
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:22 pm
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airsafe wrote:
> On Feb 11, 11:48 am, hotbis... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Hi again all
>>
>>I just found out from my friend that has been making all of our travel
>>plans through American Express on the internet for our Hawaiian trip
>>that I owe him $75 above the ticket price/taxes. He says that United
>>charges $75 for paper tickets. My reply is that I am fine e-ticket and
>>don't think I should have to pay him for the outrageous fee. His
>>response is that United in the past has had problems finding his e-
>>ticket reservation and so he now always gets a paper ticket. I don't
>>fly that often, but when I seem to have no problems with my
>>reservation and I always have an e-ticket.
>>
>>Do any of you select paper tickets instead on electronic ones and why?
>>Do any of you have problems with United or other airlines finding your
>>reservations when you have an e-ticket?
>>
>>HBS
>
>
> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
> extensive resources on making complaints at http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
> Foundation.
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Since: Jan 19, 2004 Posts: 122
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:52 am
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<SNIP>
>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
>> extensive resources on making complaints at http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
>> Foundation.
>
>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
Hi
I have recently returned from a trip to Antarctica. In order to join
the ship, my flights (from the UK with British Airways) were Heathrow
to Buenos Aires then Buenos Aires to Ushuaia.
However, an hour into the Heathrow-Buenos Aires leg, the plane
developed instrument problems and had to return to Heathrow. We were
told that BA would reschedule our flights for the following day and
over-nighted us in a hotel at their expense.
British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
(Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
joined the ship on time.
However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
have been ruined.
Regards
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Since: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 95
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:52 am
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"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithSpam.RemoveThis@NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote ...
After others, their names excised had writ....
> <SNIP>
>>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
>>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
>>> extensive resources on making complaints at
>>> http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
>>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
>>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
>>> Foundation.
>>
>>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
>
> Hi
>
(Snippagio de minimus)
>
> British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
> Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
> Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
> (Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
> agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
> the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
> adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
> therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
> e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
> page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
> entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
>
> British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
> flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
> promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
> Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
> joined the ship on time.
>
> However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
> information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
> that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
> NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
> have been ruined.
>
A cautionary tale of no little worth which suggests that the wise traveler
is well advised to print out a copy of his/her E-Ticket and keep it
available to whip out and wave when encountering pettifoggery, codswallop
and expectable chickenshit from indifferently enabled airline staff.
"When in doubt, whip it out!"
TMO >> Stay informed about: UA $75 paper ticket fee. What the &@#$!!!! |
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Since: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 114
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:55 pm
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:48:07 -0800 (PST), hotbistud DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>Hi again all
>
>I just found out from my friend that has been making all of our travel
>plans through American Express on the internet for our Hawaiian trip
>that I owe him $75 above the ticket price/taxes. He says that United
>charges $75 for paper tickets. My reply is that I am fine e-ticket and
>don't think I should have to pay him for the outrageous fee. His
>response is that United in the past has had problems finding his e-
>ticket reservation and so he now always gets a paper ticket. I don't
>fly that often, but when I seem to have no problems with my
>reservation and I always have an e-ticket.
>
>Do any of you select paper tickets instead on electronic ones and why?
>Do any of you have problems with United or other airlines finding your
>reservations when you have an e-ticket?
>
>HBS
Your friend is either hyper-paranoid or having one on with you. If
you have the confirmation number for your res...or better if he made
the res using your Mileage Plus number...you do have one don't you?...
you can look up the reservation yourself.
If you can see it, United can see it. A paper ticket won't help if
they query their system and the reservation isn't in it. It's been a
very long time since the ticket itself was enough to guarentee a
reservation existed.
Last time in about five years that I used a paper ticket was a booking
via Lufthansa to Italy in which Lufthansa required a paper ticket for
some reason....their game, their rules.
Jim P. >> Stay informed about: UA $75 paper ticket fee. What the &@#$!!!! |
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Since: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 114
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:25 pm
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:48:03 -0600, "TMOliver"
<tmoliverjrFIX RemoveThis @hot.rr.comFIX> wrote:
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>"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithSpam RemoveThis @NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote ...
>
>After others, their names excised had writ....
>
>> <SNIP>
>>>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
>>>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
>>>> extensive resources on making complaints at
>>>> http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
>>>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
>>>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
>>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>(Snippagio de minimus)
>>
>> British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
>> Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
>> Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
>> (Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
>> agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
>> the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
>> adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
>> therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
>> e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
>> page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
>> entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
>>
>> British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
>> flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
>> promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
>> Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
>> joined the ship on time.
>>
>> However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
>> information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
>> that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
>> NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
>> have been ruined.
>>
>
>A cautionary tale of no little worth which suggests that the wise traveler
>is well advised to print out a copy of his/her E-Ticket and keep it
>available to whip out and wave when encountering pettifoggery, codswallop
>and expectable chickenshit from indifferently enabled airline staff.
>
>"When in doubt, whip it out!"
>
>TMO
>
I always have a copy of my itinerary above and beyond any check-in
print outs. If I find I have to book on multiple airlines *and* out
of the way places and cannot do it through my preferred airline where
I do have status (since they are mor elikely to want to fix things if
they know you'll be back next month)...I'll let a major travel agency
or a very well-connected and trustworthy local one do the work so I
have someone at home who can go to bat to fix the problems if they
crop up.
The more complex or exotic the travel, the more documentation you
should bring since you may have to deal with someone in Lower
Boolaboolastan who barely speaks English, works for sixteen airlines
since the one you will be on has one flight a week into his garden
spot and where they are not about to call eleven thousand milles away
to the airline's home office to fix a situation since they regard
customer service as just one more aspect of western imperialism and
finally, he hates youe guts because he kniows you just spent more on
airfare to get there than he will make in his entire lifetime.
Bonus travel tip: The more words in a country's name, the harder it
will be to fix any problems with your travel arrangements once there:
Canada or Monaco, easy...The Democratic Socialist Free Peoples
Workers' Republic of Upper Graustarkia...hard.
Jim P.
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Since: Nov 22, 2004 Posts: 152
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:35 pm
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In article <IrLsj.74004$k27.64517@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
Rog' <rcblinnNoSpam.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> As our resident gasbag^H^H^H^H lawyer, Paul Tauger,
>> claimed many times,
>> (quote) an e-ticket is an oral promise and
>> (quote) an e-ticket is not a written contract and
>> (quote) the statute of frauds precludes enforcement of
>> non-written contracts.
>> That's the legal opinion on the matter, or so Tauger claims.
>
>"Hogwash."
I couldn't agree more, but I am not a lawyer. On the other hand,
Paul Tauger, who *is* a lawyer (albeit one who failed at several
firms), has been claiming here for years that an e-ticket is an oral
promise and the statute of frauds precludes enforcement of e-tickets.
All of this is recorded for posterity by DejaNews and now Google.
Because Tauger has a degree from Brooklyn Academy of Law or some
such outfit, he would brook no disagreement. According to Tauger,
any opinion of his must be correct, because he is a licensed lawyer.
This is the same guy who claimed - contrary to the ADA - that airlines
are not common carriers and who threatened to sue an airline for
allowing a lap infant in his row.
>First off, under the UCC, sales which do not satisfy
>the statute of frauds are enforceable, if payment has been made
>and accepted. But more importantly, under the federal Electronic
>Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act, "[A] signature,
>contract or other record relating to [a transaction in or affecting
>interstate or foreign commerce] may not be denied legal effect,
>validity, or enforceability solely because it is in electronic form,"
>and "a contract relating to [a transaction in or affecting interstate
>or foreign commerce] may not be denied legal effect, validity, or
>enforceability solely because an electronic signature or electronic
>record was used in its formation." [I am also an attorney.]
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:27 am
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On 16 Feb, 02:25, nob....TakeThisOut@spamcop.net wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:48:03 -0600, "TMOliver"
>
>
>
> <tmoliverjr....TakeThisOut@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote:
>
> >"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithS....TakeThisOut@NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote ...
>
> >After others, their names excised had writ....
>
> >> <SNIP>
> >>>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
> >>>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
> >>>> extensive resources on making complaints at
> >>>>http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
> >>>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
> >>>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
> >>>> Foundation.
>
> >>>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
>
> >> Hi
>
> >(Snippagio de minimus)
>
> >> British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
> >> Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
> >> Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
> >> (Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
> >> agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
> >> the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
> >> adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
> >> therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
> >> e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
> >> page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
> >> entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
>
> >> British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
> >> flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
> >> promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
> >> Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
> >> joined the ship on time.
>
> >> However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
> >> information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
> >> that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
> >> NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
> >> have been ruined.
>
> >A cautionary tale of no little worth which suggests that the wise traveler
> >is well advised to print out a copy of his/her E-Ticket and keep it
> >available to whip out and wave when encountering pettifoggery, codswallop
> >and expectable chickenshit from indifferently enabled airline staff.
>
> >"When in doubt, whip it out!"
>
> >TMO
>
> I always have a copy of my itinerary above and beyond any check-in
> print outs. If I find I have to book on multiple airlines *and* out
> of the way places and cannot do it through my preferred airline where
> I do have status (since they are mor elikely to want to fix things if
> they know you'll be back next month)...I'll let a major travel agency
> or a very well-connected and trustworthy local one do the work so I
> have someone at home who can go to bat to fix the problems if they
> crop up.
>
> The more complex or exotic the travel, the more documentation you
> should bring since you may have to deal with someone in Lower
> Boolaboolastan who barely speaks English, works for sixteen airlines
> since the one you will be on has one flight a week into his garden
> spot and where they are not about to call eleven thousand milles away
> to the airline's home office to fix a situation since they regard
> customer service as just one more aspect of western imperialism and
> finally, he hates youe guts because he kniows you just spent more on
> airfare to get there than he will make in his entire lifetime.
>
> Bonus travel tip: The more words in a country's name, the harder it
> will be to fix any problems with your travel arrangements once there:
> Canada or Monaco, easy...The Democratic Socialist Free Peoples
> Workers' Republic of Upper Graustarkia...hard.
>
> Jim P.
> Jim P.
So you're in real trouble if you want to fly to/from United Kingdom of
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:38 pm
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<philipuk.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 16 Feb, 02:25, nob....TakeThisOut@spamcop.net wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:48:03 -0600, "TMOliver"
>>
>>
>>
>> <tmoliverjr....TakeThisOut@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote:
>>
>> >"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithS....TakeThisOut@NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote ...
>>
>> >After others, their names excised had writ....
>>
>> >> <SNIP>
>> >>>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information
>> >>>> handy
>> >>>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
>> >>>> extensive resources on making complaints at
>> >>>>http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
>> >>>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
>> >>>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
>> >>>> Foundation.
>>
>> >>>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
>>
>> >> Hi
>>
>> >(Snippagio de minimus)
>>
>> >> British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
>> >> Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
>> >> Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
>> >> (Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
>> >> agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
>> >> the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
>> >> adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
>> >> therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
>> >> e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
>> >> page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
>> >> entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
>>
>> >> British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
>> >> flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
>> >> promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
>> >> Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
>> >> joined the ship on time.
>>
>> >> However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
>> >> information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
>> >> that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
>> >> NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
>> >> have been ruined.
>>
>> >A cautionary tale of no little worth which suggests that the wise
>> >traveler
>> >is well advised to print out a copy of his/her E-Ticket and keep it
>> >available to whip out and wave when encountering pettifoggery,
>> >codswallop
>> >and expectable chickenshit from indifferently enabled airline staff.
>>
>> >"When in doubt, whip it out!"
>>
>> >TMO
>>
>> I always have a copy of my itinerary above and beyond any check-in
>> print outs. If I find I have to book on multiple airlines *and* out
>> of the way places and cannot do it through my preferred airline where
>> I do have status (since they are mor elikely to want to fix things if
>> they know you'll be back next month)...I'll let a major travel agency
>> or a very well-connected and trustworthy local one do the work so I
>> have someone at home who can go to bat to fix the problems if they
>> crop up.
>>
>> The more complex or exotic the travel, the more documentation you
>> should bring since you may have to deal with someone in Lower
>> Boolaboolastan who barely speaks English, works for sixteen airlines
>> since the one you will be on has one flight a week into his garden
>> spot and where they are not about to call eleven thousand milles away
>> to the airline's home office to fix a situation since they regard
>> customer service as just one more aspect of western imperialism and
>> finally, he hates youe guts because he kniows you just spent more on
>> airfare to get there than he will make in his entire lifetime.
>>
>> Bonus travel tip: The more words in a country's name, the harder it
>> will be to fix any problems with your travel arrangements once there:
>> Canada or Monaco, easy...The Democratic Socialist Free Peoples
>> Workers' Republic of Upper Graustarkia...hard.
>>
>> Jim P.
>> Jim P.
>
> So you're in real trouble if you want to fly to/from United Kingdom of
> Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Judging by the chaos at London Heathrow Terminal 4 today you are right
The baggage handling computer system has died during an upgrade and BA is
not accepting check-in luggage from economy class passengers.
What a nice surprise when you arrive at LHR from Scotland or Cornwall or
wherever for a 4 weeks trip to Australia and are told you take your suitcase
home.
I bet they don't have that even in the DSFPWR of Graustarkia.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:22 pm
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:27:53 -0800 (PST), "philipuk@gmail.com"
<philipuk.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 16 Feb, 02:25, nob....RemoveThis@spamcop.net wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:48:03 -0600, "TMOliver"
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>> <tmoliverjr....RemoveThis@hot.rr.comFIX> wrote:
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>> >"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithS....RemoveThis@NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote ...
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>> >After others, their names excised had writ....
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>> >> <SNIP>
>> >>>> You should always keep a paper copy of your e-ticket information handy
>> >>>> in case you have a problem and need to file a complaint. I've got
>> >>>> extensive resources on making complaints at
>> >>>>http://airsafe.com/complain/complain.htm
>> >>>> that gives you advice on what information is most important, and an
>> >>>> online form you can use to send your complaint to the AirSafe.com
>> >>>> Foundation.
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>> >>>Why would you need a paper copy to make a complaint?
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>> >> Hi
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>> >(Snippagio de minimus)
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>> >> British Airways then told me that they could only re-book me as far as
>> >> Buenos Aires because, according to their own computer, the Buenos
>> >> Aires-Ushuaia leg was on a separate ticket with a different airline
>> >> (Aerolineas Argentinas) and had been booked separately by my travel
>> >> agent, so I would have to sort that leg out with the travel agent or
>> >> the other airline. After disputing this with them, they were quite
>> >> adamant the second flight was definitely on a separate ticket and
>> >> therefore not their responsibility, so eventually I showed them the
>> >> e-ticket information I had printed out at home from the "my booking"
>> >> page of the British Airways own web site which clearly showed the
>> >> entire flight as being on one e-ticket.
>>
>> >> British Airways then agreed that my print-out did indeed show both
>> >> flights as being on a single ticket, they photocopied my printout and
>> >> promptly found me a seat (with Aerolineas Argentinas) from Buenos
>> >> Aires to Ushuaia. The re-scheduled flights then went smoothly and I
>> >> joined the ship on time.
>>
>> >> However, if I hadn't printed out a paper copy of my e-ticket
>> >> information from the BA website I would not have been able to prove
>> >> that it was BA's responsibility to get me all the way to Ushuaia and
>> >> NOT just to Buenos Aires - and of course my vacation would probably
>> >> have been ruined.
>>
>> >A cautionary tale of no little worth which suggests that the wise traveler
>> >is well advised to print out a copy of his/her E-Ticket and keep it
>> >available to whip out and wave when encountering pettifoggery, codswallop
>> >and expectable chickenshit from indifferently enabled airline staff.
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>> >"When in doubt, whip it out!"
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>> >TMO
>>
>> I always have a copy of my itinerary above and beyond any check-in
>> print outs. If I find I have to book on multiple airlines *and* out
>> of the way places and cannot do it through my preferred airline where
>> I do have status (since they are mor elikely to want to fix things if
>> they know you'll be back next month)...I'll let a major travel agency
>> or a very well-connected and trustworthy local one do the work so I
>> have someone at home who can go to bat to fix the problems if they
>> crop up.
>>
>> The more complex or exotic the travel, the more documentation you
>> should bring since you may have to deal with someone in Lower
>> Boolaboolastan who barely speaks English, works for sixteen airlines
>> since the one you will be on has one flight a week into his garden
>> spot and where they are not about to call eleven thousand milles away
>> to the airline's home office to fix a situation since they regard
>> customer service as just one more aspect of western imperialism and
>> finally, he hates youe guts because he kniows you just spent more on
>> airfare to get there than he will make in his entire lifetime.
>>
>> Bonus travel tip: The more words in a country's name, the harder it
>> will be to fix any problems with your travel arrangements once there:
>> Canada or Monaco, easy...The Democratic Socialist Free Peoples
>> Workers' Republic of Upper Graustarkia...hard.
>>
>> Jim P.
>> Jim P.
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>So you're in real trouble if you want to fly to/from United Kingdom of
>Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Yep. Been through Heathrow lately? :0 >> Stay informed about: UA $75 paper ticket fee. What the &@#$!!!! |
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:26 am
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"RAK" <raknews.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Judging by the chaos at London Heathrow Terminal 4 today you are right
> The baggage handling computer system has died during an upgrade and BA is
> not accepting check-in luggage from economy class passengers.
> What a nice surprise when you arrive at LHR from Scotland or Cornwall or
> wherever for a 4 weeks trip to Australia and are told you take your
> suitcase home.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:18 pm
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"Traveller" <mcgurk RemoveThis @mindless.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "RAK" <raknews RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Judging by the chaos at London Heathrow Terminal 4 today you are right
>> The baggage handling computer system has died during an upgrade and BA is
>> not accepting check-in luggage from economy class passengers.
>> What a nice surprise when you arrive at LHR from Scotland or Cornwall or
>> wherever for a 4 weeks trip to Australia and are told you take your
>> suitcase home.
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> You got a reference or link for that? I'd like to read more
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7254455.stm
and it looks like it was resolved and lasted one or two days:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7256147.stm
And lots more with Google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3A...GB%3Aof
I am surprised it did not get nore space on the news but I suppose we are
just resigned BA and LHR problems.
A friend who is an extreme high mileage flier (especially Asia-Europe) told
me that Singapore Airlines run regular practices at Singapore airport for
such problems :
"From time to time SQ do a simulated "(system) crash" at SIN and process all
documents inc. baggage manually and needless to say all goes smoothly."
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