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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:16 pm
Post subject: driving to Greece
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Any advice please. We have done this before three years on the
trot but we went Derby UK to Calais, overnight in Calais, then to
Strasborg, overnight in STrasborg, then onto Lake Garda and
overnight there, followed byshort trip to Venice and got boat
over to Patras. On arrival drove up to Thessaloniki.
This is all OK, but I gather you can now go overland. We have
been told by our Greek friends though that through Yugoslavia the
police tell you that a traffice offence has been commited and
demand money. Is this true?
Can anyone give me another option of route that doesnt involve a
ferry from Italy? The main reason this time is we will have our
dog with us and I am terrified of her being on the ship in the
kennels and going overboard at some stage as she loves water so
much she will go out of her way to get in it!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:29 pm
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Hi Jane, I would never go through former Yugoslavia. Even if they don't robb
you, the driving is hard and simply takes too long. As for the ferry boat I
would recommend what we did one week ago (being on Crete now for the
winter): Take a boat of Superfast! this is the only company that will allow
you to take your dog with you in the cabin - for 50 extra Euro only. There
are special cabins for this purpose with no wall-to-wall carpet but
easy-to-clean floor, these are outside cabins, have first class quality and
are rather close to a door that leads on deck where you can walk your dog
during the trip (on the leash of course if yours tend to go swimming ;o)).
There is even kind of a "dog's toilet" on the upper deck but our two
darlings prefered not to pee and poo there but outside and we collected the
poo. Superfast boats go from Ancona (300 km further down south from Venice)
and stop in Igoumenitsa and Patras. The trip to Patras takes only 19 to 20
hours (but for Thessaloniki you could as well leave the boat in Igoumenitsa)
and their ships and service are the best of all companies doing this route.
I think I can judge this because we travel to Greece since 20 years, once by
train, once by car through Yugoslavia, once by plane and all other trips by
ferry boat.
If you will take the boat I would love to hear how you liked it!
Regina
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:51 pm
Post subject: Re: driving to Greece [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Regina Schmid wrote:
> Hi Jane, I would never go through former Yugoslavia. Even if they don't
> robb you, the driving is hard and simply takes too long. As for the
> ferry boat I would recommend what we did one week ago (being on Crete
> now for the winter): Take a boat of Superfast! this is the only company
> that will allow you to take your dog with you in the cabin - for 50
> extra Euro only. There are special cabins for this purpose with no
> wall-to-wall carpet but easy-to-clean floor, these are outside cabins,
> have first class quality and are rather close to a door that leads on
> deck where you can walk your dog during the trip (on the leash of course
> if yours tend to go swimming ;o)). There is even kind of a "dog's
> toilet" on the upper deck but our two darlings prefered not to pee and
> poo there but outside and we collected the poo. Superfast boats go from
> Ancona (300 km further down south from Venice) and stop in Igoumenitsa
> and Patras. The trip to Patras takes only 19 to 20 hours (but for
> Thessaloniki you could as well leave the boat in Igoumenitsa) and their
> ships and service are the best of all companies doing this route. I
> think I can judge this because we travel to Greece since 20 years, once
> by train, once by car through Yugoslavia, once by plane and all other
> trips by ferry boat.
>
> If you will take the boat I would love to hear how you liked it!
>
> Regina
> --
> www.archenoah-kreta.com
> The world is a dangerous place, not just because of those who do evil,
> but because of those who look on and do nothing. (Albert Einstein)
I agree. I have taken our dog on superfast and it was very easy.
Yugoslavia still does not appeal.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:11 pm
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Thanks Regina, and Stuart.
Any ideas on who to book with, direct? I had a quick look this
morning before work and it seemed very expensive. Of course it is
five years since we went over by ferry, but the quote I got
(perhaps I was asking for the wrong sort of cabin) was £800
return ++ plus of course the dog, but I couldnt do that bit on line.
Can you advise type of cabine to ask for, what you paid approx (I
know next year we are going peak time early August, but we are
coming back end November which is very off season).
Thanks for any help. This certainly appeals, keeping my dog with
me in the cabin, ideal.
Regina Schmid wrote:
> Hi Jane, I would never go through former Yugoslavia. Even if they don't
> robb you, the driving is hard and simply takes too long. As for the
> ferry boat I would recommend what we did one week ago (being on Crete
> now for the winter): Take a boat of Superfast! this is the only company
> that will allow you to take your dog with you in the cabin - for 50
> extra Euro only. There are special cabins for this purpose with no
> wall-to-wall carpet but easy-to-clean floor, these are outside cabins,
> have first class quality and are rather close to a door that leads on
> deck where you can walk your dog during the trip (on the leash of course
> if yours tend to go swimming ;o)). There is even kind of a "dog's
> toilet" on the upper deck but our two darlings prefered not to pee and
> poo there but outside and we collected the poo. Superfast boats go from
> Ancona (300 km further down south from Venice) and stop in Igoumenitsa
> and Patras. The trip to Patras takes only 19 to 20 hours (but for
> Thessaloniki you could as well leave the boat in Igoumenitsa) and their
> ships and service are the best of all companies doing this route. I
> think I can judge this because we travel to Greece since 20 years, once
> by train, once by car through Yugoslavia, once by plane and all other
> trips by ferry boat.
>
> If you will take the boat I would love to hear how you liked it!
>
> Regina
> --
> www.archenoah-kreta.com
> The world is a dangerous place, not just because of those who do evil,
> but because of those who look on and do nothing. (Albert Einstein) >> Stay informed about: driving to Greece |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:42 pm
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Hi Jane, I have my ticket of 11-19-06 in front of me; it was one way, low
season, prices in Euro:
Minibus 74,00
2 persons in cabin 402,80
2 dogs 100,00
Fuel surcharge 30,00
TOTAL 606,80
The cabins where you are allowed to take your dog are class AA (out).
Therefore they are rather expensive.
You can check Superfast's website directly at www.superfast.com to see which
prices apply to your car and time of the year.
On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the costs by
booking camping on board which I can also recommend, especially when
travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or at least a vehicle that
resembles one) and it is only allowed until end of October.
When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx. 30 %
discount per person and car for the return ticket.
Superfast tickets are afaik slightly more expensive than those of the other
companies but they are worth the price!
Regina
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:42 pm
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Thanks Regina. I have found the website and I have emailed them
for a quote as I cannot seem to book on line for the dog.
This is such a help to me, thanks so much. We love Greece, we
have been going there over 30 years. My dad was Greek, I have
Greek friends. I also worry desperately about the animals over
there, and as such I want the journey for my dog to Greece to be
comfortable and safe. I realise too that I will have to be very
careful over her welfare whilst over there, especially high and
low season when poison is left lying about. However, because of
my love of Greece and the Greek people, and also my dog, I am
prepared for this and am looking forward very much to taking her
over next year.
The fact that she can share our cabin is a real relief, and I
just await the confirmatin of price from Superfast, then I will book.
Thanks again, and good luck in all you do in Crete
Jane
Regina Schmid wrote:
> Hi Jane, I have my ticket of 11-19-06 in front of me; it was one way,
> low season, prices in Euro:
>
> Minibus 74,00
> 2 persons in cabin 402,80
> 2 dogs 100,00
> Fuel surcharge 30,00
> TOTAL 606,80
>
> The cabins where you are allowed to take your dog are class AA (out).
> Therefore they are rather expensive.
>
> You can check Superfast's website directly at www.superfast.com to see
> which prices apply to your car and time of the year.
>
> On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the costs
> by booking camping on board which I can also recommend, especially when
> travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or at least a vehicle
> that resembles one) and it is only allowed until end of October.
>
> When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx. 30
> % discount per person and car for the return ticket.
>
> Superfast tickets are afaik slightly more expensive than those of the
> other companies but they are worth the price!
>
> Regina
> --
> www.archenoah-kreta.com
> The world is a dangerous place, not just because of those who do evil,
> but because of those who look on and do nothing. (Albert Einstein) >> Stay informed about: driving to Greece |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:25 am
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Regina Schmid wrote:
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> On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the costs
> by booking camping on board which I can also recommend, especially when
> travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or at least a vehicle
> that resembles one) and it is only allowed until end of October.
>
> When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx. 30
> % discount per person and car for the return ticket.
>
I used to live on Paros and often went to and from the UK with a 3.5
Tonne transit van which I slept in, sometimes travelling with the dog.
They always allowed me to book that as camping. I think all of the
companies have camping decks and it really is a cheap way of travelling.
You get the use of showers and toilets on the camping deck and can use
all of the other facilities onboard too. It's part of the holiday, a
mini cruise!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:42 pm
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Thanks both of you. Unfortunately I dont think a Range Rover
qualifies as a camper, and it would not be comfortable to sleep
in anyway. Oh well, we will try the cabins this time.
Looking forward to our trips
Stuart Hudson wrote:
> Regina Schmid wrote:
>
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>> On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the
>> costs by booking camping on board which I can also recommend,
>> especially when travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or
>> at least a vehicle that resembles one) and it is only allowed until
>> end of October.
>>
>> When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx.
>> 30 % discount per person and car for the return ticket.
>>
>
> I used to live on Paros and often went to and from the UK with a 3.5
> Tonne transit van which I slept in, sometimes travelling with the dog.
> They always allowed me to book that as camping. I think all of the
> companies have camping decks and it really is a cheap way of travelling.
> You get the use of showers and toilets on the camping deck and can use
> all of the other facilities onboard too. It's part of the holiday, a
> mini cruise!
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:26 am
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Regina and Stuart
Now safely booked with Super Fast, thanks so much for your advice
and comment, I will really feel much safer having my dog in the
cabin. Will let you know how it goes. We dont unfortunately go
til August next year due to other commitments, so we will arrive
in the worst two weeks of the year for being busy. Will give us
chance to settle in the house though before they all go back to
Thessaloniki and leave us in peace til December !!
Thanks again
Jane wrote:
> Thanks both of you. Unfortunately I dont think a Range Rover qualifies
> as a camper, and it would not be comfortable to sleep in anyway. Oh
> well, we will try the cabins this time.
>
> Looking forward to our trips
>
>
>
> Stuart Hudson wrote:
>> Regina Schmid wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the
>>> costs by booking camping on board which I can also recommend,
>>> especially when travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or
>>> at least a vehicle that resembles one) and it is only allowed until
>>> end of October.
>>>
>>> When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx.
>>> 30 % discount per person and car for the return ticket.
>>>
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>> I used to live on Paros and often went to and from the UK with a 3.5
>> Tonne transit van which I slept in, sometimes travelling with the dog.
>> They always allowed me to book that as camping. I think all of the
>> companies have camping decks and it really is a cheap way of
>> travelling. You get the use of showers and toilets on the camping deck
>> and can use all of the other facilities onboard too. It's part of the
>> holiday, a mini cruise!
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>> Stuart >> Stay informed about: driving to Greece |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:18 am
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Jane wrote:
> Regina and Stuart
>
> Now safely booked with Super Fast, thanks so much for your advice and
> comment, I will really feel much safer having my dog in the cabin. Will
> let you know how it goes. We dont unfortunately go til August next year
> due to other commitments, so we will arrive in the worst two weeks of
> the year for being busy. Will give us chance to settle in the house
> though before they all go back to Thessaloniki and leave us in peace til
> December !!
>
> Thanks again
>
> Jane wrote:
>> Thanks both of you. Unfortunately I dont think a Range Rover
>> qualifies as a camper, and it would not be comfortable to sleep in
>> anyway. Oh well, we will try the cabins this time.
>>
>> Looking forward to our trips
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart Hudson wrote:
>>> Regina Schmid wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On our tour back to Germany in May or June we will compensate the
>>>> costs by booking camping on board which I can also recommend,
>>>> especially when travelling with pets, but you need a camping car (or
>>>> at least a vehicle that resembles one) and it is only allowed until
>>>> end of October.
>>>>
>>>> When you buy both tickets, to go and to return, you will get approx.
>>>> 30 % discount per person and car for the return ticket.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used to live on Paros and often went to and from the UK with a 3.5
>>> Tonne transit van which I slept in, sometimes travelling with the
>>> dog. They always allowed me to book that as camping. I think all of
>>> the companies have camping decks and it really is a cheap way of
>>> travelling. You get the use of showers and toilets on the camping
>>> deck and can use all of the other facilities onboard too. It's part
>>> of the holiday, a mini cruise!
>>>
>>> Stuart
I found the comments about driving in the former Yugoslavia strange in
terms of being robbed and bad police. I was there in March and found
Slovenia more modern and Western than anywhere in Greece (almost
Austrian) and Croatia very Greece like and safe. I don't know about the
other old republics. As to the roads they are similar to Greece in terms
of quality, which aside from the main highways means twisty-not good if
you are in a rush.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:52 pm
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As for Slovenia and Croatia I agree; they are rather European now. But as
for Serbia I insist on my warning. This country is still far from being save
and it's a long way to get through!
Regina
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