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Since: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:35 pm
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"Ed Treijs" <etreijs.RemoveThis@europa.algorithmics.com> schrieb
> Smarts are premium-priced cars in Canada. Look to rent a "subcompact".
> This will be comething like a Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, etc.
Right.
You definitely wouldn't want a smart for long distances. As nice as they
are in city traffic, at highway speed they aren't:
- Because they are so short they are very susceptible to side winds, on
a windy day you have a hard time keeping them on your lane
- Highway speed means pushing those tiny engines to the limit. The
fuel economy is worse than with any standard subcompact under those
conditions - and the tank is very small so you'd have to stop at every
fuel station on the way. And it gets noisy at that speed.
- No cruise control
I rented a Smart once for a longer journey in Germany, just for the fun
of it... In a way it *is* fun on the Autobahn, but... never again.
Downtown: Anytime! It's hard *not* to find a tiny space to park
that thing, albeit at 90° angle to the curb because it's not longer than
other cars are wide
Jochen from Germany >> Stay informed about: North Eastern Usa and Canada |
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Since: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:36 am
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On Feb 17, 11:59 am, max11 <eagles1....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi at all! I need again your help
> I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
> days more for flights.
> I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
> because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
> Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
> 1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
> Boston is too much?
> New York 7 days
> Philadelphia 2
> Boston 4
> Montreal 5
> Quebec 3
> Ottawa 2 ?
> Toronto 3
> Niagara Falls
> -flight- (from Buffalo)
> Chicago 4
> -flight-
> Washington 3-4 ?
>
> 2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
> 3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> big doubt:
> from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> even if I can't understand the time schedule suhttp://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdfhttp://www.nfta.com/...ro/sche I don't
> understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
> 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> there?
> because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
> 5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
> me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
> For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.
> can I see the whales about 20th May?
> 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> Thanks
I have been to all of the places you are considering.
Ottawa is definately worth it, one of the most interesting places to
visit. I don't know when the whales are in Tadoussac but there is a
Whaling museum there and even if there are no whales a boat trip up
the Sagueney River is fantastic. I think you should google Tadoussac
and there should be some information. Chicago is an amazing city, but
I agree with others that you should consider it for another time.
Chicago has great museums but so do Ottawa, Philadelphia, Boston, NYC
and Washington and you will be city'd out by the time you visit
Chicago. Flights are definately cheaper from Buffalo/Niagara than
from Toronto so you should try to fly from there. Toronto is worth a
few days and Montreal is also worth about 2 days (don't miss the
botanical gardens <jardin botanique>. Quebec is worth 2 days but
there are other places nearby worth visiting such as Montmorency
Falls, St Anne de Beaupre and Isle D'Orleans . When in NYC, get a week
pass if you are staying that long. It will be well worth it. The
subway system there is quite extensive. Don't miss the Metropolitan
Museum of Art. Do research for other things to see there. You can
stay in Brooklyn, Queens or over the border in New Jersey and still be
a short walk from the subway. Have a great trip. >> Stay informed about: North Eastern Usa and Canada |
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Since: Apr 29, 2007 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:15 am
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On 20 Feb, 18:14, etre....DeleteThis@europa.algorithmics.com (Ed Treijs) wrote:
> In article <d3b5f4c8-d220-46f5-9c2a-f79def651....DeleteThis@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
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> max11 <eagles1....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I consider your advices!
> >I'm thinking that it would be worth it to visit the parks,little
> >cities, villages, nature between and around Quebec and Toronto instead
> >of visiting only big cities and metropolis (I'm thinking to drop
> >Chicago and have more days; also I would have not to book flights and
> >I will be more free: I could do Buffalo-Philadelphia-washington by
> >bus).
>
> Yes, the countryside and nature parks will be nice in May. (But late May the
> black flies can come out.)
>
> Yes, a car is most convenient to do this. Beware that travelling from Quebec
> to Toronto and visiting a few parks will be over 1000km. You really want
> unlimited kilometres allowed, or a high number.
>
> As I have a car, I have not tried taking buses to small towns or parks. Except
> for Victoria Day long weekend (May 17-19) it is still too early for much
> vacation service to "cottage country".
>
> >But I think moving without a car is much more difficoult so I could:
> >a)could I rent a smart? I can't find it!
>
> Smarts are premium-priced cars in Canada. Look to rent a "subcompact". This
> will be comething like a Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, etc. You may get a larger
> car for the same price anyway. With a lot of travel outside of the city, it
> will not cost that much more for fuel.
>
> >b) It will take more time, but i'll travel by bus or train hoping
> >thaose place are served by pubblic transport or organized bus tour,
> >being some tourist I think! Do you know about public transport and bus
> >tour?
>
> You can search, but I am not aware of any regular tours, especially in May.
> ("Vacation season" is usually July and August.)
I could ask to the hostels!
>
> >c)I could join to some cars with people I will met in hostels.
>
> In hostels and other places where there are budget travellers, there is often a
> notice board with rides offered by people who are going places and want to share
> cost and often the driving. I have offered rides a few times. The problem is
> that you do not know what will be available until you are at the hostel or other
> place that has these notices. So you can not make definite plans, and you must
> be quite flexible with your times--people offering a ride will usually leave on
> their schedule, not yours.
I haven't thought to this!
However, the advantage is that you will be going
> with someone who knows local conditions and driving laws (you hope!).
I hope too
> If you are thinking of actually renting a car with other travellers, again
> you have to find the right travellers! And the decision making may be tricky;
> at least if someone is offering a ride they know where they are going so there is less question about where and when to go.
I don't know if this is better or not!
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Since: Apr 29, 2007 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:29 am
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On 21 Feb, 09:36, RickCanada <r_bornst....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 17, 11:59 am, max11 <eagles1....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi at all! I need again your help
> > I booked the flight on the end of April, my trip will be 40 days and 2
> > days more for flights.
> > I'll travel alone, stay in hostels and travel by bus (or train ),
> > because it's expensive to rent being alone. ( from Buffalo/Toronto-
> > Chicago and Chicago-Washington by plane)
>
> > 1- I think the number of days is ok, isn't it? maybe the number for
> > Boston is too much?
> > New York 7 days
> > Philadelphia 2
> > Boston 4
> > Montreal 5
> > Quebec 3
> > Ottawa 2 ?
> > Toronto 3
> > Niagara Falls
> > -flight- (from Buffalo)
> > Chicago 4
> > -flight-
> > Washington 3-4 ?
>
> > 2-eventually, is it worth to see any city between Chicago and
> > Washington, as Detroit,Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or others?
> > 3-Because now I need to book the flight to and from Chicago I have as
> > big doubt:
> > from Buffalo is cheaper than from Toronto: 111$ last flight at7.45 pm
>
> > Is it better to arrive to Buffalo the day before, sleep there (I hoppe
> > there i san hostel) also to see the falls in the night
> > or to leave from Toronto early in the morning at 6.45am, arrivino to
> > Niagara Falls 8.15am?
> > I read on old posts that it takes more than hour from Niagara to
> > Buffalo airport ( bus#40 till Buffalo trasportation center then #240,
> > even if I can't understand the time schedule suhttp://www.nfta.com/metro/schedules_pdfs/204.pdfhttp://www.nfta.com/m...I don't
> > understand which ones are the bus stop!)
>
> > 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
> > there?
> > because I can't realize the distances, even if I stay tehere is it
> > cheaper to buy a weekly metrocard for 21$ o buy single tickets whwn I
> > need it? bus and train station are in manhattan ?
>
> > 5-Which is a very good trip from big cities that you would recommend
> > me (that I could do with a 1-2 day tour) that REALLY WORTH IT do?
> > For example I read about Cape Cod or New England? or about Tadoussac.
> > can I see the whales about 20th May?
> > 6- Is Ottawa worth it, being on the way?
>
> > Thanks
>
> I have been to all of the places you are considering.
>
> Ottawa is definately worth it, one of the most interesting places to
> visit. I don't know when the whales are in Tadoussac but there is a
> Whaling museum there and even if there are no whales a boat trip up
> the Sagueney River is fantastic. I think you should google Tadoussac
> and there should be some information. Chicago is an amazing city, but
> I agree with others that you should consider it for another time.
> Chicago has great museums but so do Ottawa, Philadelphia, Boston, NYC
> and Washington and you will be city'd out by the time you visit
> Chicago. Flights are definately cheaper from Buffalo/Niagara than
> from Toronto so you should try to fly from there. Toronto is worth a
> few days and Montreal is also worth about 2 days (don't miss the
> botanical gardens <jardin botanique>. Quebec is worth 2 days but
> there are other places nearby worth visiting such as Montmorency
> Falls, St Anne de Beaupre and Isle D'Orleans . When in NYC, get a week
> pass if you are staying that long. It will be well worth it. The
> subway system there is quite extensive. Don't miss the Metropolitan
> Museum of Art. Do research for other things to see there. You can
> stay in Brooklyn, Queens or over the border in New Jersey and still be
> a short walk from the subway. Have a great trip.
A lot of helpful advices, thanks! >> Stay informed about: North Eastern Usa and Canada |
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Since: Feb 01, 2008 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:59 am
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>>Quebec is worth 2 days but
>>there are other places nearby worth visiting such as Montmorency
>>Falls, St Anne de Beaupre and Isle D'Orleans .
Might be worth renting a car for 1 day or 2 to drive to these places and
further east to Charlevoix area. Baie St-Paul and Ile aux coudres are
nice coutryside.
> 4-New York: are the main things in manhattan to see? Is good to stay
>> there?
I've always stayed in Manhattan. More expensive but I prefer to be
closer, not having to bother about missing the last train if I go out late.
Some things worth seeing in NYC:
Empire State Building or Top of the Rock (Rockefeller Center). The
Empire State Buiding is taller but you will also have nice views from
Top of The Rock. Each of these cost around $20.
Times Square: really worth seeing by day or night. If you're willing to
spend about $10 for a drink, go to the lounge at the Marriott Hotel.
It's on the 8th floor and gives a different view of Times Square. And it
sounds quiet when you look at the animation and crowd on the street.
Brooklyn Bridge: there's a pedestrian walkway over the cars level.
You'll get nice views of downtown, the river and Brooklyn. If you take
the time to walk it all long, you can also walk around Brooklyn Civice
Center and Booklyn Heights. There is a nice park along the East River. >> Stay informed about: North Eastern Usa and Canada |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:57 pm
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