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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:53 am
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Hi all,

in deciding how many books to pack for my upcoming 3-week-trip to
Australia (mainly the eastern coast between Cairns and Sydney) it
would help me to know how easy it is to buy second-hand replacements
along the way. Wink
(In case you are interested, I prefer fantasy, science-fiction and
crime/thrillers.)

I remember from traveling the US that each and every little town had
at least one second-hand bookstore, so getting new reads was quite
easy.

What is the situation in Australia like, will it be as easy for me to
find second-hand bookstores and what are the prices for used paperback
books ?

Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
Smile

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:50 pm
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In Oz they are called "Book Exchange" and they seem to be in every town and
city I have ever been in.

Some of the best are in the smaller towns. At Daylesford in Victoria is the
best I can recall. Not just a book exchange but a treasure trove of
collectables as well - imagine just about every Phantom Comic book ever
published.

Ross

PS Daylesford is 110kms north west of Melbourne city.

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>
> Hi all,
>
> in deciding how many books to pack for my upcoming 3-week-trip to
> Australia (mainly the eastern coast between Cairns and Sydney) it
> would help me to know how easy it is to buy second-hand replacements
> along the way. Wink
> (In case you are interested, I prefer fantasy, science-fiction and
> crime/thrillers.)
>
> I remember from traveling the US that each and every little town had
> at least one second-hand bookstore, so getting new reads was quite
> easy.
>
> What is the situation in Australia like, will it be as easy for me to
> find second-hand bookstores and what are the prices for used paperback
> books ?
>
> Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
> additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
> Smile
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:59 pm
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:53:51 -0700, i.hate.spam RemoveThis @gmx.de wrote:

>X-No-Archive:
>
>Hi all,
>
>in deciding how many books to pack for my upcoming 3-week-trip to
>Australia (mainly the eastern coast between Cairns and Sydney) it
>would help me to know how easy it is to buy second-hand replacements
>along the way. Wink
>(In case you are interested, I prefer fantasy, science-fiction and
>crime/thrillers.)
>
>I remember from traveling the US that each and every little town had
>at least one second-hand bookstore, so getting new reads was quite
>easy.
>
>What is the situation in Australia like, will it be as easy for me to
>find second-hand bookstores and what are the prices for used paperback
>books ?
>
>Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
>additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
>Smile


Heavens above !

With only three weeks here, are you not going to be looking around ??

Can't do that with your nose stuck in a book.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:55 pm
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:20:26 +1000, Alan S <nothere.TakeThisOut@there.com>
wrote in <rct7h3hqgen7fn3ave0ao1bs1nir2vt2u8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com> :

>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:56:53 +0800, tony.TakeThisOut@altavista.com
>wrote:
>
>>>Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
>>>additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
>>>Smile
>>
>>
>>Heavens above !
>>
>>With only three weeks here, are you not going to be looking around ??
>>
>>Can't do that with your nose stuck in a book.
>
>I use a book to read myself to sleep at night and on long
>flights. Useful for that.
>
>
>Cheers, Alan, Australia

Even would be useful on a tourist bus if you find yourself next
to someone uninteresting. I will refrain from mentioning the
name of a certain person in Texas.

Of course, there is the possibility that one might find oneself
next to another science fiction or fantasy fan. A simple way to
avoid this is to go to a used bookstore and pick up a old, cheap,
hardcover book with a very obscure title.

Perhaps something along the lines of "Discovering Messages From
God In Advanced Quadratic Equations" or perhaps "A
Psychopathological Study of New Zealand Immigrants to Texas".

Cover the book you are reading with this. The person sitting in
the adjoining seat probably won't pester you.

More seriously, though, all travel involves some boring transport
by air, sea, bus, etc.

Then too, in the best planned trip, there are sometimes delays
due to transport delays, weather conditions, and so on.

Even severe transport malfunctions. In the case of aircraft,
a pocket Bible could be handy. If a ship, a survival manual such
as "Stay Alive".

Of course, as an alternative to a book, can always carry a small
but sensitive shortwave radio receiver. Then you can get world
news wherever you are.

Or you can scan around the bands and check for music from various
countries. If the person next to you winces at your choice, then
turn the volume up a little. With luck, they may choose to move,
or jump overboard, or take another bus, or whatever.

Or listen to a genuinely interesting voice broadcast, and comment
on it at regular intervals, or offer to interpret it to the
person next to you. Smile

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:22 pm
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It's a big, big country - and if you are on a longish point to point
journey - a book's a great consolation (beats the hell out of missionary
tourists and others of like ilk!).

The advice you've been given by the non-judgemental posters on this branch
is good!

There are 'book exchanges' in every town of any size in the country.

Some will 'buy' your books at 25% of the sticker price, and sell you books
at 50% of the sticker price - fair enough in my experience. Others have
different - but not too dissimilar formulae.

Have fun!





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> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:20:26 +1000, Alan S <nothere RemoveThis @there.com>
> wrote in <rct7h3hqgen7fn3ave0ao1bs1nir2vt2u8 RemoveThis @4ax.com> :
>
>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:56:53 +0800, tony RemoveThis @altavista.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
>>>>additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
>>>>Smile
>>>
>>>
>>>Heavens above !
>>>
>>>With only three weeks here, are you not going to be looking around ??
>>>
>>>Can't do that with your nose stuck in a book.
>>
>>I use a book to read myself to sleep at night and on long
>>flights. Useful for that.
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, Australia
>
> Even would be useful on a tourist bus if you find yourself next
> to someone uninteresting. I will refrain from mentioning the
> name of a certain person in Texas.
>
> Of course, there is the possibility that one might find oneself
> next to another science fiction or fantasy fan. A simple way to
> avoid this is to go to a used bookstore and pick up a old, cheap,
> hardcover book with a very obscure title.
>
> Perhaps something along the lines of "Discovering Messages From
> God In Advanced Quadratic Equations" or perhaps "A
> Psychopathological Study of New Zealand Immigrants to Texas".
>
> Cover the book you are reading with this. The person sitting in
> the adjoining seat probably won't pester you.
>
> More seriously, though, all travel involves some boring transport
> by air, sea, bus, etc.
>
> Then too, in the best planned trip, there are sometimes delays
> due to transport delays, weather conditions, and so on.
>
> Even severe transport malfunctions. In the case of aircraft,
> a pocket Bible could be handy. If a ship, a survival manual such
> as "Stay Alive".
>
> Of course, as an alternative to a book, can always carry a small
> but sensitive shortwave radio receiver. Then you can get world
> news wherever you are.
>
> Or you can scan around the bands and check for music from various
> countries. If the person next to you winces at your choice, then
> turn the volume up a little. With luck, they may choose to move,
> or jump overboard, or take another bus, or whatever.
>
> Or listen to a genuinely interesting voice broadcast, and comment
> on it at regular intervals, or offer to interpret it to the
> person next to you. Smile
>
> Cheers,
> Kangaroo16
>
>
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:22:53 +1000, "A Mate" <maybe RemoveThis @Australia.com.au>
wrote:

>It's a big, big country - and if you are on a longish point to point
>journey - a book's a great consolation (beats the hell out of missionary
>tourists and others of like ilk!).

Good heavens ! Isn't that the whole idea of travel, to meet other
people and ideas ??

Not going to find those experiences in the book you're reading.....

>
>The advice you've been given by the non-judgemental posters on this branch
>is good!
>
>There are 'book exchanges' in every town of any size in the country.
>
>Some will 'buy' your books at 25% of the sticker price, and sell you books
>at 50% of the sticker price - fair enough in my experience. Others have
>different - but not too dissimilar formulae.
>
>Have fun!
>
>
>
>
>
>"kangaroo16" <kangaroo16 RemoveThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:ige9h3drd8lbc3h0m8kkrml4od2vkkegaj@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:20:26 +1000, Alan S <nothere RemoveThis @there.com>
>> wrote in <rct7h3hqgen7fn3ave0ao1bs1nir2vt2u8 RemoveThis @4ax.com> :
>>
>>>On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:56:53 +0800, tony RemoveThis @altavista.com
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Your help and any recommendation of good places to hunt for new
>>>>>additions to my book collection are most appreciated !
>>>>>Smile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Heavens above !
>>>>
>>>>With only three weeks here, are you not going to be looking around ??
>>>>
>>>>Can't do that with your nose stuck in a book.
>>>
>>>I use a book to read myself to sleep at night and on long
>>>flights. Useful for that.
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers, Alan, Australia
>>
>> Even would be useful on a tourist bus if you find yourself next
>> to someone uninteresting. I will refrain from mentioning the
>> name of a certain person in Texas.
>>
>> Of course, there is the possibility that one might find oneself
>> next to another science fiction or fantasy fan. A simple way to
>> avoid this is to go to a used bookstore and pick up a old, cheap,
>> hardcover book with a very obscure title.
>>
>> Perhaps something along the lines of "Discovering Messages From
>> God In Advanced Quadratic Equations" or perhaps "A
>> Psychopathological Study of New Zealand Immigrants to Texas".
>>
>> Cover the book you are reading with this. The person sitting in
>> the adjoining seat probably won't pester you.
>>
>> More seriously, though, all travel involves some boring transport
>> by air, sea, bus, etc.
>>
>> Then too, in the best planned trip, there are sometimes delays
>> due to transport delays, weather conditions, and so on.
>>
>> Even severe transport malfunctions. In the case of aircraft,
>> a pocket Bible could be handy. If a ship, a survival manual such
>> as "Stay Alive".
>>
>> Of course, as an alternative to a book, can always carry a small
>> but sensitive shortwave radio receiver. Then you can get world
>> news wherever you are.
>>
>> Or you can scan around the bands and check for music from various
>> countries. If the person next to you winces at your choice, then
>> turn the volume up a little. With luck, they may choose to move,
>> or jump overboard, or take another bus, or whatever.
>>
>> Or listen to a genuinely interesting voice broadcast, and comment
>> on it at regular intervals, or offer to interpret it to the
>> person next to you. Smile
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kangaroo16
>>
>>
>
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:12:24 +0900, tony.DeleteThis@altavista.com
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:22:53 +1000, "A Mate" <maybe.DeleteThis@Australia.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>It's a big, big country - and if you are on a longish point to point
>>journey - a book's a great consolation (beats the hell out of missionary
>>tourists and others of like ilk!).
>
>Good heavens ! Isn't that the whole idea of travel, to meet other
>people and ideas ??
>
>Not going to find those experiences in the book you're reading.....

Beats the heck out of annoying the passenger beside you
non-stop on an 8-hour bus or train ride or flight. There are
times when I found it useful to offer a free book to the
person beside me.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:41 pm
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:50:09 GMT, kangaroo16
<kangaroo16 RemoveThis @invalid.com> wrote:

>
>I've met some interesting people on by travels, but have met a
>few uninteresting ones as well.

Mate, with all due respect, if you talk as much as you write
then I definitely want to have a book handy if I end up next
to you.


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:42 am
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:52:15 +1100, Alan S <nothere RemoveThis @there.com>
wrote in <45ivi351e8k1v5cok0onj8lrallsq4ljlk RemoveThis @4ax.com> :

>On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:50:09 GMT, kangaroo16
><kangaroo16 RemoveThis @invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I've met some interesting people on by travels, but have met a
>>few uninteresting ones as well.
>
>Mate, with all due respect, if you talk as much as you write
>then I definitely want to have a book handy if I end up next
>to you.

Rest assured that I take your post in the spirit in which it was
probably intended Smile

Although I am pretty immune to criticism and insults, as well
having had a fair amount of experience with both in my long
and fruitful life. Smile

Actually, your post brings up some interesting thoughts.

I reckon you could be a pretty interesting bloke, so would
probably try to engage you in conversation.

When encounter a possibly interesting individual, I often do
manage to engage them in conversation. As am a bit of a
polymath, can usually find a mutually interesting subject to
discuss.

If we ever meet on a bus, am sure you will be gratified to know
that I can talk much more than I write. My touch-typing speed is
probably still around 55 WPM, and I sometimes confirm info
on net lookups, or find new news which I think to be of interest.

No, offhand, I don't know how many words per minute I can manage
in casual conversation, but would probably be considerable higher
than my typing speed.

Who knows, chance and fate could bring us together on a bus, or
better yet a crowded airliner sometime when you couldn't easily
change seats, or get off and catch the next bus.

Would a book defend you? Probably not, as I could probably spot
the title and author, or read it as you read it.

Even if you were a total stranger, I could probably roughly
estimate your reading speed, which would give me a lead on your
I.Q.

If it happened to be a book I had read, then that would give me
a conversational opening, as we could then discuss the book.

Even if I hadn't read it, be it fact or fiction, I might open
with a question relating to your enjoyment of the book. If
factual, then we could discuss the contents, and why you are
interested in same.

I usually carry a book when traveling, though, and I might be
reading a book that I had brought along.

Of course, if you were reading a book on sports, or a cheap
novel, I might not bother to try to start a conversation with you
at all.

Of course, if I had inadvertently forgotten to bring a book, and
couldn't find anyone else to talk with, I would first read all
the information in the seat pockets. This wouldn't take me long,
though.

When reading the card on aircraft evacuation procedures, I might
laugh a few times or snort with disbelief. Back in the days of
propeller aircraft, airliners had a big wingspan, and would
actually float for a while if the pilot had to ditch it over
water.

Modern jets, though, don't have much of a wingspan, and rely on
raw power. If they one or two of the four jet engines, they can
manage on those. If they lose 3 out of 4, the stalling speed of
the aircraft is probably at least 130 MPH, and if they can't
maintain this, they fall out of the sky. It is possible to land
on a dead calm sea, but if it is rough the aircraft will probably
break up on landing, or at least not float long. I always try to
get a seat near an emergency exit, though.

I suppose if I was really desperate and had nothing more to read,
and was reading the book you were holding I might ask why you
didn't turn the pages a bit faster. Smile Followed by a
suggestion that good speed reading courses were available.Smile

As it is illegal to assault a fellow passenger, you might choose
to convince another passenger to change seats with you, which
would give me someone else to converse with. Smile

Sadly, we will probably never meet. Although if you have a
problem coping with my Usenet posts, I don't know if we could
manage a conversation or not.

Come to think of it, there might be a good market for phony
external hearing aids. Then you could pointedly switch it off to
discourage conversation by pretending to be profoundly deaf.

As have never learned sign language, this might stymie me. I
might have to exchange seats with another passenger, or waylay a
flight attendant. Smile

Anyway, if you had a bet on the cup, hope you backed "Efficient".

" Efficient paid out at odds of 24-1 for the win and paying
$7.40 for the place. Purple Moon was at $5.50 while Mahler was at
10-1. The quinella paid $76.10 and the trifecta paid $1431."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22712747-31037,00.html

Actually, hope you bet A$1 or more on the trifecta. $A1,431
isn't a bad return on a $1 bet. Would be pure luck, of course,
but currently it might give more return than playing the stock
market. Smile

Regards,
Kangaroo16


>
>
>Cheers, Alan, Australia
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:00 am
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:15:15 +1100, Alan S <nothere.DeleteThis@there.com>
wrote in <jb5vi354a23kvuk1r2348h28shtmf0v7qr.DeleteThis@4ax.com> :

>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:12:24 +0900, tony.DeleteThis@altavista.com
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:22:53 +1000, "A Mate" <maybe.DeleteThis@Australia.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>It's a big, big country - and if you are on a longish point to point
>>>journey - a book's a great consolation (beats the hell out of missionary
>>>tourists and others of like ilk!).
>>
>>Good heavens ! Isn't that the whole idea of travel, to meet other
>>people and ideas ??
>>
>>Not going to find those experiences in the book you're reading.....
>
>Beats the heck out of annoying the passenger beside you
>non-stop on an 8-hour bus or train ride or flight. There are
>times when I found it useful to offer a free book to the
>person beside me.

Not a bad idea, actually! However, people today don't read as
widely as they did in the pre-television and pre-Internet days.

You might have to provide a fairly wide selection of "books" to
interest all possible readers. To provide books which would
interest all possible seat mates might take up a goodly share
of your luggage allowance.

Still, a worthy idea, if you can't manage to get him to watch the
in-flight movie.

You could also make a bet with him, like who can spot the first
identify the first species of bird he can spot during the flight.

Or write down the name and species of the first spottable bird
during the flight, to be compared near the end. If the flight
attendants on the airline are female, consider writing down the
"bird" species based on the flight attendant and identifying the
genus as _Homo sapiens_ and the time as a few minutes after the
time that you propose the bet. When you land at the destination
and compare notes, you can explain the meaning of the word "bird"
in Aussie slang, and hopefully collect on your bet. Smile

With any luck, he might not have seen any bird, of any
description at all during the flight. Wait until the aircraft is
at 30,000 feet or roughly 10,000 meters before proposing the bet.

This should keep him staring out the window for most of the
flight. Should he spot one of the winged kind, which is pretty
unlikely, you can always argue about the genus and species
identification and tell him that he should have called his
sighting to your attention for proper identification. Smile

A shorter than normal post for me, but there is so little traffic
on these two groups that spend most of my time on other groups,
or even actually something more productive.Smile

Cheers,
Kangaroo16


>
>
>Cheers, Alan, Australia
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:44 am
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:30:38 +0900, tony RemoveThis @altavista.com
wrote:

>>Someone once said that if Australia was ever invaded, the
>>first Monday in November would be a good time, especially
>
>OOpppss !! it's the first Tuesday of November Kanga ....

And if you really wanted to invade this country you'd do it
on Boxing Day. The entire Armed forces are on leave, so are
the Police in preparation for New Year's Eve, apart from
those at the MCG, and those members of the population who
aren't either at the MCG or at home watching the test on TV
are still sleeping off the feast from the day before.

On the other hand if you invaded during the Melbourne Cup
you'd have the entire nation instantly up in arms for
disturbing a national religious event.


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kangaroo16 <kangaroo16 RemoveThis @invalid.com> wrote:
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> Although I am pretty immune to criticism

You misspelled "feedback" and can safely drop the "pretty" bit.

> Rest assured that I take your post in the spirit in which it was
> probably intended Smile

Likewise.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:46 pm
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Alan S <nothere.TakeThisOut@there.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:50:09 GMT, kangaroo16
> <kangaroo16.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I've met some interesting people on by travels, but have met a
> >few uninteresting ones as well.
>
> Mate, with all due respect, if you talk as much as you write
> then I definitely want to have a book handy if I end up next
> to you.

What makes you think that would help? It(s analogy) doesn't help
*here*, does it?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:47 pm
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:45:48 +1100, Alan S <nothere RemoveThis @there.com>
wrote in <klr0j39oknebp2vn5ptpfghqc8p9sk8i0u RemoveThis @4ax.com> :

>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:30:38 +0900, tony RemoveThis @altavista.com
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>>>Someone once said that if Australia was ever invaded, the
>>>first Monday in November would be a good time, especially
>>
>>OOpppss !! it's the first Tuesday of November Kanga ....
I stand corrected!Smile Perhaps this indicates my lack of interest
in racing. The only times I've bothered to watch or even listen
to the Melbourne Cup were the times when got into a betting
syndicate at work, where the selections are randomly drawn.

I wouldn't have a clue who the favorite was. However,
a lot of experienced punters got the winner wrong as well!

It is almost as hard as the stock market or currency speculation.
After all, if some of the major banks couldn't see they were
going to get into trouble with sub-prime mortgage loans, the
average investor was unlikely to see the problems coming. Seems
pretty obvious in retrospect, though!

Going back to the Great Depression of 1929 the markets were
at record highs the day before the crash.

>
>And if you really wanted to invade this country you'd do it
>on Boxing Day. The entire Armed forces are on leave, so are
>the Police in preparation for New Year's Eve, apart from
>those at the MCG, and those members of the population who
>aren't either at the MCG or at home watching the test on TV
>are still sleeping off the feast from the day before.

You are right, of course! Boxing day would be better than
Christmas Day, actually. Although most Darwin residents
weren't very prepared for Cyclone Tracy on Christmas Eve in 1974.

From memory, reports said that only about 1 in 50 cyclones would
normal present a problem, so it seems likely that most people
ignored the warnings.

One thing that surprised me a bit was that it took so long to get
the word out. After all, Darwin had a couple of military bases
and was the site of a major transmitter for Radio Australia, yet
it took hours for the news to get out. Wife & I were in Sydney
at the time, and from memory wasn't on the news there until
around 8:30 AM. Found out later that the first one to break the
news was a radio amateur who managed to get some emergency
power for his short wave transmitter.

For those who are unfamiliar with the damage it caused, about
70% of Darwin was destroyed. The highest wind speed recorded was
217 KPH [ almost 135 MPH] before the anemometer blew away. I had
spent several weeks in Darwin decades before, so could why it did
so much damage to houses. Most were built on posts about 10 feet
off the ground, partly for termite protection, partly to escape
the heat. Bathroom, toilet, and laundry were usually at ground
level, and it was a handy place to park the car out of the sun.
Some of the pictures reminded me of pictures of Hiroshima after
the A-bomb.

One statistic I'm not certain of is the low death toll.

http://www.ntlib.nt.gov.au/tracy/advanced/Met/Stats.html
gives it as 65. When I was there, though, it was a popular
stop for travelers going to Southeast Asia. Many choose
to sleep on the beach, and I doubt that anyone would really
know how many were on the beach that night.

The above site says that the storm surge was "1.6 metres
measured in harbour, 4 metres estimated at Casuarina Beach"

In U.S. terms, 1.6 m =62.4 inches= 5.2 feet. 4 metres
= 13 feet.

In addition, there would have a unknown number of Aborigines from
surrounding towns, most of whom who would probably also sleep
on the beaches. For people sleeping above the high tide mark,
a 1.6 m surge might be survivable, if sober, but most wouldn't
have been. It was Christmas Eve, after all!

The evacuation of the injured to major city hospitals all over
Australia was handled well, as was the evacuation of women &
children.

From memory, one of the airliners in this evacuation set a world
record for the largest number of these ever crammed aboard an
airliner.

Most evacuation was by air, as Darwin is a long way from any
other major centre. The nearest major hospital at the time was
probably Brisbane, Qld, ~ 2840 km [~1750 miles] by air.

I found it very impressive that people opened their homes to
these evacuees. I can't help but wonder how many
Americans provided food and shelter in their homes to refugees
from the New Orleans cyclone Katrina in 2005.
>
>On the other hand if you invaded during the Melbourne Cup
>you'd have the entire nation instantly up in arms for
>disturbing a national religious event.
>
>Cheers, Alan, Australia

ROTFL, yeah, you are probably right about that!


RBA raises rates to 6.75%

Scott Murdoch | November 07, 2007

THE Reserve Bank delivered today an interest rate rise to fight
inflation, as widely expected by financial markets and less than
three weeks before the federal election.

The official rate has been lifted by 0.25 of a percentage point
to 6.75 per cent. [More]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22717417-601,00.html

That rise probably won't help the Liberal/CP at the election 17
days from now.

Live rates at 2007.11.06 22:57:17 UTC
1.00 USD = 1.07455 AUD
United States Dollars Australia Dollars
1 USD = 1.07455 AUD 1 AUD = 0.930623 USD

Gold:
Live rates at 2007.11.06 23:00:17 UTC
1.00 XAU = 823.321 USD = 884.071 AUD
Gold Ounces United States Dollars
1 XAU = 823.321 USD 1 USD = 0.00121459 XAU
http://www.xe.com/

Good news on the A$. On the other hand, last I heard
crude oil price is up to US$ 96.70.

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:04 am
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On 06 Nov 2007 22:15:31 GMT, Frank Slootweg
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>Alan S <nothere.DeleteThis@there.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:50:09 GMT, kangaroo16
>> <kangaroo16.DeleteThis@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I've met some interesting people on by travels, but have met a
>> >few uninteresting ones as well.
>>
>> Mate, with all due respect, if you talk as much as you write
>> then I definitely want to have a book handy if I end up next
>> to you.
>
> What makes you think that would help? It(s analogy) doesn't help
>*here*, does it?

Hi Frank

I could always tear up pages and stuff them in my ears.

Or, better still, offer to test his BG's after a starchy
airline meal and then give him the benefit's of Jennifer's
testing advice for diabetics and the need for dietary
modifications, in excruciating detail, as we passed through
the next six time zones.

I can probably recite each page by heart:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html

Almost did that to a poor lady in LAX when AA delayed our
flight for three hours:-))

Nothing more boring than listening to a person expanding
interminably on a passion you do not share.

And here I miss anything after the second para for certain
posters.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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