What knives are legal to carry in Australia ?

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:32:04 -0500, "Del Cecchi"
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>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:25:18 -0700, "Slint Flig"
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>>>> Statistically speaking, a guy in
>>>> his mid 30s, out with a dog, not making a nuisance of himself is very
>>>> unlikely to be stopped and searched. Cops tend to go for teenagers
>>>wearing
>>>> tracksuits and baseball caps, swigging from a Buckfast bottle.
>>>
>>>Can cops in the UK search people on the street whenever they want to?
>>>
>> A more interesting question is whether cops anywhere in the
>> world, including the USA, can search anyone, anywhere. The
>> answer, if you are curious, is a simple "Yes"!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kangaroo16
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>But in the US what they find is not admissable in court, unless they have
>probably cause etc.

Depends on how technologically equipped the police department is,
though, and what the courts consider as "probable cause", though.

If person "X" is carrying a concealed weapon, and an officer gets
a "hunch" that he is, is that probable cause for a search?

I understand that there are some pretty sophisticated pocket
metal detectors available these days, where an officer can walk
past a person and get a warning that he is carrying likely to be
carrying a weapon. Is this "probable cause"? I suspect that it
would be so considered these days.

There also a sub millimeter radar unit in the works last I heard
which would enable the crew of a patrol car to drive along a
street, or park, and scan all passing pedestrians for weapons
with pretty good visualization of what they are carrying.

If a possibly illegal weapon, I suspect that this would be
considered "probable cause".

In N.S.W, we have random breath tests. Crews set up at random
locations and stop all traffic for a breath test of the driver.
As the warning TV commercial says "If you are over 0.05, you are
under arrest."

They can take you to the nearest doctor or hospital and confirm
this with a blood test, which is a bit more accurate, especially
at marginal levels. The blood is divided into three lots. One
sample is electronically tested at high accuracy. If over 0.05
They keep one as evidence. The other is given to the offending
motorist.

If under, though they let him go. Some states have this in the
USA, but their limit is generally 0.07%.

Actually, 0.05% is the maximum permitted level. For cab, truck,
bus, etc. drivers the maximum allowed is 0.02%

Here the process of getting a license is that a new driver gets
a "learners permit" and the car gets prominently displayed "L"
plates. When he passes the driving exam, he spends the next two
years on Provisional, or "P" plates. From memory, there is no
permitted alcohol level for these drivers. If the police can
prove any significant indication of alcohol consumption, they
lose their license, and have to start again on the two year
period.

In some states they are trialing tests for drugs as well.

NSW is probably more safety conscious than most U.S.
states. Drivers & passengers have to wear seat belts, young
children have to travel in proper safety restraints, depending on
their age. Vehicles have to pass a fairly strict annual
inspection before they get their annual registration. If outside
limits, these must be fixed before the vehicle will be
registered. If a major defect is found, the inspection mechanic
can pull the license plates on the car then and there.
Motorcyclists must wear approved safety helmets. Bicycle riders
and horse riders have to wear a lighter duty, and much cheaper,
approved helmet. Third party insurance to protect passengers,
pedestrians, other road users is compulsory.

Most Australian road users consider all these as pretty sensible.
Needless to say, if tourists rent a car they are expected to obey
the rules. They can usually drive on their U.S. license, though.

Radar speed cameras are becoming increasingly common here.
These just photograph the car, its license plate, and the speeder
gets a ticket in the mail.

On private property, though, most of these aren't binding.
It isn't that unusual to supply a kid with a junker car so he can
drive up to the property line to catch his school bus. I don't
know if any age limitations on this. Doubt it.

Cheers,
Kangaroo16


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"Del Cecchi" <delcecchiofthenorth DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote
>> A more interesting question is whether cops anywhere in the
>> world, including the USA, can search anyone, anywhere. The
>> answer, if you are curious, is a simple "Yes"!
> But in the US what they find is not admissable in court, unless they have
> probably cause etc.

It's 'probable cause', and the Exclusionary Rule has many exceptions- one of
which is almost bound to cover their search of you at any time, anywhere.
As an example; a 'Terry Stop' allows them to pat you down, handcuff you
during the search, look in your car for weapons, and anything they find
incident to that search is legal. They don't need any 'probable cause' to
search you- the possibility of weapons is that standard.
What they probably can't do it open up closed areas that are not accessible
to the subject without articulable/founded suspicion.
'Law & Order' is probably not a good source for legal information.

Chas
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:37:01 +1000, Chilla
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>kangaroo16 wrote:
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>> Easy remedy for this risk, of course. Require all passengers &
>> staff to travel naked. Once they overcome their initial
>> shyness, could provide some interesting conversations and
>> introductions.
>
>It wouldn't be shyness, but trying to conceal an embarrassing boner,
>seen the hostesses bending over in front of you? I swear they do this
>deliberately.
>
>
>Regards Charles

Well, I have heard that it isn't unknown for cabin staff to
sometimes seek the attention of likely passengers for
a brief fling in an airline toilet. If they are willing to
attest to this, they qualify for the "mile high club".

Some single passengers might consider this as an
unexpected free service.

It does give a new meaning to "fly united" doesn't it:-)

After sent last post, realised that hadn't replied to all of your
last post. Will do so below.

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I've never fermented in a keg before, I'm a bottle man. Well if
you can
get pie-eyed with one bottle then a keg isn't necessary

Hmm, what size bottle? A "Darwin Stubbie"?

> Another thing you might try, if of an experimental turn of mind,
> is to try adding some glucose to speed up initial fermentation.

THe problem with glucose is that it make your beer taste
disgusting if
you get it wrong. I just use a yeast starter, and fermentation
is very
quick.

Does the packet list the ingredients? Sure it isn't mostly
glucose?

Ever try the ancient beverage "Mead". From memory, this was made
from fermentation of honey.



> Humans, and, from memory, most other animals, and some plants
> such as yeast, don't directly utilize table sugar, which is
> sucrose or, chemically, C12H22O11.

It's like any sugar it breaks down eventually, and this is an
advantage.
The process takes longer to metabolise the sugar, this means
there is
sugar to drink, so your beer is sweeter, and if you leave it long
enough
the alcohol ramps up, and is drinkable for longer.


> Fermentation is not usually much of a problem in warm climates,
> but N.Z. isn't as warm as Australia. Before the yeast can
> rapidly reproduce, the sucrose has to be broken down to glucose.

I remember one cold winter (which by NZ standards might just be
an
average day), the brew didn't start, so I used a hair dryer, a
blanket
and a yeast starter and got it going. ONce it was under way it
was self
sustaining.


> So, just as an experiment, get a couple of the distilled water
> jugs, or even Coca-Cola bottles made from "PET" plastic.

Hell no, don't do that, the PET bottle will explode violently. If
you
want to ferment in PET bottles then get the OzTops system
(naturally I
have this... did I mention I was a cheap drunk?). A bottle of
apple
fruit juice, some yeast and one of these special lids, 2 days
later
apple cider, leave it longer it gets stronger. Want more fizz,
use a
PET bottle.



> Incidentally, is distillation legal in N.Z.? When I left the US,
> one needed government permission to even own a distillation unit,
> even one for distilling water. Australia is somewhat more
> tolerant, and allows this. Italian migrants or their
> descendents, often use stills to convert home-brewed wine
> into "grappa", a potent spirit!

In Oz it is illegal, and you can't legally own a still with a
more than
5 litre capacity. The still you can own isn't for alcohol...
essential
oils, distilling water, but no booze


> Wine, of course, can "go off". So can beer, usually from
> contamination from a bacterium that converts the alcohol to
> acetic acid, or "vinegar". The genus _Aerobacter_ from memory.


Time will kill the yeast eventually, basically it starves. Pure
alcohol
is a different kettle of fish.


> Which is more than can be said for some humans who consume too
> much of it. Your brew can cause some people to "giggle" at the
> sight of a telephone? Drink enough "grappa" or other high
> alcohol spirit and you wouldn't even recognise a phone! Or
> anything else, for that matter.

I've had some home made grappa, and geez it was rugged.


> As far as I know, stills are legal for personal use in Australia,
> as long as the product is for ones own use. However, am not sure
> this is still the case.

Absolutely true. Worse luck


Regards Charles
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kangaroo16 wrote:
> Well, I have heard that it isn't unknown for cabin staff to
> sometimes seek the attention of likely passengers for
> a brief fling in an airline toilet. If they are willing to
> attest to this, they qualify for the "mile high club".
>
> Some single passengers might consider this as an
> unexpected free service.
>
> It does give a new meaning to "fly united" doesn't it:-)

Wah-LOL (imagine a maniacal laugh)... I've just skulled a bottle of my
black beer and I'll flying myself Talk about double vision... far-out.


> After sent last post, realised that hadn't replied to all of your
> last post. Will do so below.
>
> =========================
> I've never fermented in a keg before, I'm a bottle man. Well if
> you can
> get pie-eyed with one bottle then a keg isn't necessary
>
> Hmm, what size bottle? A "Darwin Stubbie"?

I go a standard 750 ml bottle, I don't think I could survive anything
larger! I did mention that my home brew is quite strong?

I've just re-typed that last sentenced about 5 times :--) I just
noticed that my smiley has two noses.


>>Another thing you might try, if of an experimental turn of mind,
>>is to try adding some glucose to speed up initial fermentation.
>
>
>> THe problem with glucose is that it make your beer taste
>> disgusting if
>> you get it wrong. I just use a yeast starter, and fermentation
>> is very
>> quick.
>
> Does the packet list the ingredients? Sure it isn't mostly
> glucose?

Nah not the stuff I buy, I mainly use Coopers, if I use a home-made
recipe my wife gets funny, hops is hormonally active.


> Ever try the ancient beverage "Mead". From memory, this was made
> from fermentation of honey.

I spent about $70 bucks on honey, both times, and made something
equivalent to grey coloured weed killer. Apparently Australian honey is
full of Eucalyptus, which poisons the yeast, killing it.

If you want to make mead use clover honey (GD! you'd think it would be
easy to type "honey"... bugger).

It feel like someone has replace the bones in my fingers with rubber,
and someone is shaking the world, whilst I stay sill. Inebriation sure
is interesting when you try (I do mean try) to look at it analytically.

Just an addendum, it it 100% illegal to use a still for the making of
alcohol in Australia. This law goes back to the rum corps days, and
hasn't been repealed... b*stards!


Regards Charles from Oz
P.S. Mister Gliddem, I will send you a bottle of the stuff I just skulled.
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