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tinis42

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:40 pm
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Now that the Iraq-Nam disaster, with no end in sight, has cost the US
citizens untold hundreds of billions of dollars without mentioning the
hundreds of American lives maybe it is time to evaluate the many other uses
that could have benefited from the monies invested in this futile effort.

How many schools could have used this money to expand their services to the
illiterate youth that roam the country?

How many hospitals could have used this money to better serve the citizens?

How many homeless people could have been helped and housed?

How many single mothers could have proper care for their children?

How much of this money could have been used to improve the disintegrating
conditions in the cities?

The list goes on and on --------. There are so many serious, needy homeland
projects that soil the face of your Flag?

Why continue to pour money and lives trying, in vain, to seek revenge by
starting and continuing a war in a country that had no connection with 9-11?

Will the lesson ever get through to the war mongering US folk? The Korea
and Vietnam operations never taught them that an unwarranted conflict on
foreign soil is a losing proposition?

Are there now terrorists in all countries? Is Iraq just the first in an
unending, futile battle against terrorism? Do they honestly think that by
throwing resources and thousands of lives into the fray will accomplish
anything?

When you choose to combat a suicidal enemy the rules change! The God fearing
Christians based in the USA must either change their beliefs or continue to
suffer the losses of life and resources.

Do you honestly believe that invading Foreign Countries will in anyway stop
future attacks on US territory? If anything it gives the terrorists more of
a reason to retaliate.

Is the US really willing to continue to be proud of this mismanagement of
their youth, resources and tax dollars to say nothing of their dwindling
respect on the world stage?

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225stellardrop

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:40 pm
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"My side" wrote in


 > Now that the Iraq-Nam disaster, with no end in sight, has cost the US
 > citizens untold hundreds of billions of dollars without mentioning the
 > hundreds of American lives maybe it is time to evaluate the many other
 > uses that could have benefited from the monies invested in this
 > futile effort.
 >
Politics aside, do you really think the government would have spent
money on these noble projects? Perhaps I am more cynical, but I just
don't see shrub doing it.

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jamesstep

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:40 pm
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 > Now that the Iraq-Nam disaster...

Wrong newsgroup.

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oconnell1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:34 am
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My side wrote:
[snip]
 > Why continue to pour money and lives trying, in vain, to seek revenge
by
 > starting and continuing a war in a country that had no connection
with 9-11?
[snip]

Pottery Barn rule. We broke it, now we own it. Gotta fix it before
we leave.

 > Is the US really willing to continue to be proud of this
mismanagement of
 > their youth, resources and tax dollars

Well, willing is probably the wrong word. Obligate might be a better
one.

 > to say nothing of their dwindling respect on the world stage?
You mean it could get worse? Not sure how.
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oconnell1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:59 am
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Rita wrote:


 >
  > >
  > >My side wrote:
  > >[snip]
   > >> Why continue to pour money and lives trying, in vain, to seek
revenge
  > >by
   > >> starting and continuing a war in a country that had no connection
  > >with 9-11?
  > >[snip]
  > >
  > >Pottery Barn rule. We broke it, now we own it. Gotta fix it before
  > >we leave.
  > >
 > George Bush owned Iraq from the day he invaded it. But I am not at
 > all sure it CAN be fixed.

Old expression, to fix it, ya gotta know what's broke.

The country of Iraq exists as it does because of the last imperial
power to invade and conquer. It has never really been "unified".
Even Sadam ruled from a minority party that intentionally excluded
most of the rest of the country. There are still strong tribal ties
with old axes to grid.

Bush and his bunch don't understand tribal cultures and why
democracies don't handle intertribal conflicts well. Add in
significant interest (or disinterest to some extent) from external
powers, not to mention a Kurdish population that is STILL
agitating for effectively independence and you have a major
perscription for disaster.

We might be able to pour in enough money to overcome the
current situation and to provide the trappings of a stable
government. But if we ever leave, there is little evidence
that Iraq will be able to withstand the internal and external
pressures upon the government. Civil war in some form is
almost inevitable, with a dictatorship of some form being the
most likely end result. Whether it is particularly friendly
towards the west is far from certain. It could easily become
a friend of Ossama and far more like the Taliban than Sadam
ever was.
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rknydelete

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:40 am
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On 22 Dec 2004 07:34:02 -0800, "oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com"
wrote:

 >
 >My side wrote:
 >[snip]
  >> Why continue to pour money and lives trying, in vain, to seek revenge
 >by
  >> starting and continuing a war in a country that had no connection
 >with 9-11?
 >[snip]
 >
 >Pottery Barn rule. We broke it, now we own it. Gotta fix it before
 >we leave.
 >
George Bush owned Iraq from the day he invaded it. But I am not at
all sure it CAN be fixed.
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user1422

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:40 pm
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Rita wrote:


 >
 >
  >>My side wrote:
  >>[snip]
  >>
   >>>Why continue to pour money and lives trying, in vain, to seek revenge
  >>
  >>by
  >>
   >>>starting and continuing a war in a country that had no connection
  >>
  >>with 9-11?
  >>[snip]
  >>
  >>Pottery Barn rule. We broke it, now we own it. Gotta fix it before
  >>we leave.
  >>
 >
 > George Bush owned Iraq from the day he invaded it. But I am not at
 > all sure it CAN be fixed.

Bush will probably do what the US government did in Vietnam, just
declare that it's over and get out.
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dontwriteme

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:40 pm
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"My side" wrote in message

 > Now that the Iraq-Nam disaster, with no end in sight, has cost the US
<snip>

 > Is the US really willing to continue to be proud of this mismanagement of
 > their youth, resources and tax dollars to say nothing of their dwindling
 > respect on the world stage?

Nice OT rant. Welcome to my killfile, asshole.
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